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Does this mean at the end we'll see Brad Pitt walking off and it'll turn out HE WAS A ZOMBIE THE WHOLE TIME.
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Man, was the movie that troubled that they're reshooting half of it, and still don't have script (even after principle photography wrapped)? Am I understanding it right?
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oh the film finished shooting, but the studio did not like what they saw. They demanded that the last act be rewritten and reshot.
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I'll reserve judgment until I see it. One of my favorite movies of all time had a massive change to the ending, scrapping a million dollar ending.... And I wouldn't have it any other way. Movie: Little Shop of Horrors.
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So it appears this thing is a very expensive disaster that sucks so bad they can't even decide how to approach fixing it.
Brad Pitt Is Not Talking to His World War Z Director By Claude Brodesser-Akner The horde of zombies in Paramount Pictures’ World War Z aren’t the only ones ravenous for brains: So is the troubled blockbuster’s star and producer, Brad Pitt, who Vulture hears exclusively from multiple production sources has become so frustrated with the film’s director, Marc Forster, that he stopped speaking to him altogether as the production heads into at least three weeks of reshoots. Things got so bad that when Forster had notes on a scene for Pitt, they had to be relayed through an intermediary — and vice versa. We’re told that this awkward function was and is being largely fulfilled by a rotating trio of studio production president Marc Evans, Paramount film group head Adam Goodman, and Dede Gardner, a former executive at the studio who now runs Pitt’s company. And all this as the production crests $170 million as it heads into its costly reshoots, with an ending that is still in flux. (A representative for Creative Artists Agency, which represents both Pitt and Forster, declined to comment. Calls to Paramount were not returned by deadline.) Ironically, Pitt, whose company, Plan B, is producing World War Z, originally fought for Forster to be given the director’s chair on World War Z. The studio was wary, because his only other big-budget action film was Quantum of Solace, the 2008 James Bond film that proved a notoriously difficult shoot; this was due to the rush to beat the clock on a looming 2007 Writers Guild of America strike, but sources say that problems were also partly a result of Forster having never shot a big-budget action movie before. Pitt was able to get Forster on the project, no doubt because of his history with Paramount chairman Brad Grey, who not only used to be his manager, but also was a partner in Plan B. And now the zombie-apocalypse film seems to be plagued by a similar combination of scheduling, script, and directorial problems. The film was rushed into production in July 2011 in order to make a Christmas 2012 release date, even though the script wasn’t entirely ready. This speed proved for naught, as when both Paramount execs and Pitt became unhappy with how some of the big action set pieces were turning out, especially one at the end of the film that wasn’t cutting together properly, the studio decided to bump the film’s release until June of 2013. And in May, it was announced that Z would be returning to Budapest to shoot several weeks of additional material as well as reshoot some original scenes. Now Paramount is trying to decide whether to just try to fix what they have or get writers to completely re-envision the film’s finale. “The studio is cultivating multiple options,” explains one of our production spies. “One is to try scrapping [the ending] and trying something different: They want to construct an entirely new ending to the movie. The other is to try salvaging it, because decent action can be elevated, and even shitty action can be saved. This is not an unmitigated disaster; it is salvageable.” Last month, Lost exec producer and Prometheus scriptwriter Damon Lindelof was brought in to watch the movie and make suggestions to Paramount on what fixes were needed. “Body and fender work,” as it’s known in the talent agency business, is a common enough practice: A boldface-name screenwriter is brought in, makes notes, and suggests changes that are usually fixed with a few days of reshoots or additional production. Problem is, sources tell us that Lindelof said the script needed months of work, not days — something he didn't have time for — and changes were needed throughout the film, not just at the end. He did agree to work with his former Lost colleague Drew Goddard (Cloverfield, Cabin in the Woods) for the better part of a month to come up with framework script solutions. The studio is also reaching out to other writers, including Christopher McQuarrie, who did on-set rewrites for Paramount’s Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol. (Though he may be too busy: He’s directing Tom Cruise’s Jack Reacher for the studio, which bumped that movie up to take Z’s old Christmas slot.) Production sources tell Vulture that it is Pitt, not Forster, who has final approval over all the new pages generated by whatever writers work on the project over the next three weeks. And the communication breakdown between actor and director over how to reshoot it severely limits Paramount’s ability to foresee an end to production. Until the pages are approved, a budget cannot be calculated. And until a budget is tallied, the amount of time that will be spent to make the changes can’t be determined, either. Meanwhile, another source inside World War Z adds that whatever happens with the script, additional — and possibly outside — directing help is likely to be sought for the action sequences that will need to be reshot. “They have to be careful, because the DGA has strict rules that say Forster has to be there on the set,” says this source, “But someone is likely to be brought in to help direct the new action scenes.” All of this suggests some eventful weeks to come, but for now, the studio is, uh, dead quiet about what to do about the eerily "silent" partnership between Pitt and Forster. |
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Fuck the "reshoot" version. I'll see that an all (I enjoy zombie scenarios of all kinds). I want to see Brad Pitt in some pathetic zombie movie that was so bad it requires three weeks of reshoots. Really, I want to see that cut.
I think that Pitt has an amazing feel for all the movies he's in. And Forster's movies are mostly good (but nothing standout, in my opinion). |
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There's a lot of interesting information surrounding this project that warrants a doc, which, naturally, we won't get on the BD.
I hope the final product is solid, but who really knows at this point. |
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Originally Posted by KillerCannibal
(Post 11307846)
There's a lot of interesting information surrounding this project that warrants a doc, which, naturally, we won't get on the BD.
I hope the final product is solid, but who really knows at this point. It may not be a train wreck, but I can guarantee you it won't be "World War Z." |
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Wow, that's crazy. I remember getting excited when they announced that they were looking to turn this into a trilogy... now I'll feel lucky to get one movie at all.
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but even from the get go, to film the book in it's literal state is near impossible - the fact that reshoots are required surmounts that even the first cuts of the film were flawed - I'm very wary that if and when we see the final cut very little will resemble the book.
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As Groucho said earlier in this thread, World War Z would have been much better if it could have been a series on HBO. Hell you could dedicate one episode (an hour) to each story in the book.
Alas it's only a dream. |
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Originally Posted by Osiris3657
(Post 11308191)
As Groucho said earlier in this thread, World War Z would have been much better if it could have been a series on HBO. Hell you could dedicate one episode (an hour) to each story in the book.
Alas it's only a dream. |
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Is there any precedent for the studio scrapping a film like this altogether?
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Originally Posted by Artman
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Is there any precedent for the studio scrapping a film like this altogether?
If I was Paramount, I'd scrap the reshoots, hire the best editor known in the business and launch that bitch in the dead heap of spring just to call it a day. They're going to lose a lot of money on this, no need to delay the inevitable. |
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Yeah, they won't shelve a Brad Pitt movie.
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The public at large really doesn't know about the troubled production. If they edit together a couple decent trailers, throw Brad Pitt's name out a lot and make sure viewers know it's from the book World War Z, I'm sure it'll make a decent amount of money regardless.
My guess is that while the movie so far doesn't sound anything like the book, the film will use several of the books most gripping stories (Mountain road demolition, Battle of Yonkers, etc.). If they put those set pieces on display in the trailers people will think the movie follows the book closer than it actually will. |
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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
(Post 11308411)
The public at large really doesn't know about the troubled production. If they edit together a couple decent trailers, throw Brad Pitt's name out a lot and make sure viewers know it's from the book World War Z, I'm sure it'll make a decent amount of money regardless.
My guess is that while the movie so far doesn't sound anything like the book, the film will use several of the books most gripping stories (Mountain road demolition, Battle of Yonkers, etc.). If they put those set pieces on display in the trailers people will think the movie follows the book closer than it actually will. |
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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
(Post 11308411)
The public at large really doesn't know about the troubled production. If they edit together a couple decent trailers, throw Brad Pitt's name out a lot and make sure viewers know it's from the book World War Z, I'm sure it'll make a decent amount of money regardless.
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Where are you guys getting that Pittface is such a huge draw?
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Brad Pitt Zombie Pic ‘World War Z’ Getting Seven Weeks of Reshoots Paramount Pictures must be having some sort of panic attack. But they’ll hide it. They’ll say everything’s going as big pictures should go, with a scheduled bout of “additional shooting” to pick up anything they didn’t have time for the first go-around. But World War Z, the end-of-the-world zombie invasion movie based on a best-selling book starring Brad Pitt and directed by Marc Forster, is turning out to be a beast of a problem for the studio. After hiring Damon Lindelof to re-write the third act of the movie, Paramount then let Lindelof leave the project because the amount of writing required to fix the script’s problems was beyond his available time commitment. The script was then given to Drew Goddard, writer of Cloverfield and The Cabin in the Woods. When the World War Z filmmakers presented a rough cut of the film to Paramount executives, they only had 52 minutes worth of usable footage. Now the official word is that Paramount is giving the troubled film an additional seven weeks worth of reshoots to be completed in London. I have a weird feeling about this. And my feeling is that after all the negative hoopla and rewrites and reshoots, World War Z will turn out to be pretty good. Or at least I hope so given how fun the source material is. Source More info here |
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I'm surprised Paramount doesn't do what Warner Bros. did with Exorcist 4 and hire another director and just start all over ;)
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That's insane. Good luck to all!
I was gonna see this anyway, but now there's no way you could keep me away. I got to see how this turns out! |
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Wow. Just wow. I wonder what's really screwing them over. I've never been impressed with Forster, maybe the blame will be laid on him.
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Originally Posted by Supermallet
(Post 11349715)
Wow. Just wow. I wonder what's really screwing them over. I've never been impressed with Forster, maybe the blame will be laid on him.
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Originally Posted by Giles
(Post 11349680)
I'm surprised Paramount doesn't do what Warner Bros. did with Exorcist 4 and hire another director and just start all over ;)
Yet Schrader's film is sublime. Show what's the studios brass knows, both films bombed but one stands the test of time. I'm not holding out much hope for World War Z, but it will be a curiosity piece, to be sure. :thumbsup: |
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