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Old 11-18-08 | 06:33 PM
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Did everybody forget the line from CR, "So you want me to be half monk, half hitman."?
Old 11-18-08 | 07:22 PM
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Decent Bond film. It should have been titled Casino Royale 2 though, since it was really a sequel. The action sequences were way too choppy and close-up though.

And of course the chick all covered in oil was a direct homage to the one in Goldfinger all painted in gold, right down to the angles.



And I was mad that they eliminated the traditional "gun barrel view shot" from the beginning, and even more mad when they stuck it at the end just before the credits.

Old 11-18-08 | 07:57 PM
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^^ Except Craig's Bond is more cold and wouldn't touch her.
Old 11-18-08 | 09:38 PM
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Also, I couldn't stop staring at the zit in the middle of Judi Dench's forehead the entire movie.
Old 11-18-08 | 11:32 PM
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^^ Except Craig's Bond is more cold and wouldn't touch her.
He'd get oil all over his hands. Where's your head?
Old 11-19-08 | 08:34 AM
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I'm surprised no one mentioned the homage to The Spy Who Loved Me.

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The guy hanging on to Bond's tie while almost falling over the edge of the rooftop, and then Bond just swats his tie and the guy falls.
Old 11-19-08 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by B5Erik
I'm surprised no one mentioned the homage to The Spy Who Loved Me.

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The guy hanging on to Bond's tie while almost falling over the edge of the rooftop, and then Bond just swats his tie and the guy falls.
Oh yeah. I thought that seemed familiar.
Old 11-20-08 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by devilshalo
Bond starts off on a personal vendetta. This comes right after the person he loved betrayed him and and he wants some payback on those that turned Vesper against him. His big turn in attitude was the sink hole conversation with Camille (as well as his last conversation with her when he states that "the dead don't care about revenge.") And in the end, he didn't kill Vesper's lover, which is basically his main goal. Everything else he uncovered about Quantum is just a side issue. He started out the whole movie just killing everyone without so much as an afterthought. He didn't care about himself at that point and was just as self destructive as Camille in completing their one personal goal. By the end, that view had changed.

This is what I took away from the film, sorry if it seems that people needed cut and dry, hit you over the head clues that say "LOOK, THIS IS A CHARACTER MOMENT SO PAY ATTENTION!"
I totally agree! Although there was a ton of great(!) action in this film, the movie was all about the evolution of Bond's character. I thought it was top-notch.
Old 11-20-08 | 06:40 PM
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I saw this in the morning and voted a mixed reaction. I never really watched any of the Bond films before Casino Royale (which I blind bought on Blu-ray) and after enjoying the hell out of Casino Royale, I was a bit underwhelmed with this one. I didn't really read many reviews or this thread until after seeing it today, and the very first thing that I noticed with the opening action scene was the terrible editing. What looked like a great car chase ended up being a jumbled mess, and it sucks that it continued throughout the movie (although the final sequence in the building wasn't as bad).

The plot was a bit hokey as I don't think they did as good a job introducing characters, and I got a little confused when they started talking about how Bond killed the guy's bodyguard. I wish they took a little more time with Camille, because I thought she was fantastic and interesting. Parts of the movie felt really fragmented to, with Bond jumping to cities and countries all over and starting up another action sequence. Maybe that was just me.

I actually liked the opening song, and since I have no point of reference about the M character, I liked Dench. Overall I liked the movie, but it wasn't nearly as good as Casino Royale.
Old 11-20-08 | 07:04 PM
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I enjoyed it just as much as Casino Royale.
Old 11-20-08 | 09:20 PM
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Yikes. I hope Forster has his flame suit on for a comment like that. The poker game had one of the most suspenseful sequences in any of the Bond films.
There was more tension, suspense and excitement in Campbell's poker sequence than in the entirety of Forster's film. Not until the other day when I saw the back of the BD case did I notice Casino Royale is two-and-a-half hours long. Quantum of Solace is an hour shorter but is more difficult to sit through than CR.
Old 11-20-08 | 09:26 PM
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I'd say, like was mentioned earlier, that he's referring to the actual poker playing sequences themselves, not what happens in between (the poisoning). I didn't think the actual game was set up very well either (something like Maverick was more interesting to me).

I thought Casino went on a bit long but that's party due to the "multiple ending syndrome" where it looked like things were wrapping up and then continued on for 15 more minutes.

As a side note, I think I now need to see Hitman for more of Olga.
Old 11-20-08 | 09:31 PM
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I didn't think the card game in CS was that exciting, especially when Mathis kept chiming in with how much was in the pot. C'mon, we can see how many chips people put in, and how little chips were left between all the players.
Old 11-20-08 | 09:39 PM
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I'm a huge bond fan and have seen all the movies. I must have missed it and will have to catch it next time I see the movie but, In the end when Bond drops the necklace in the snow. Is it because he realized that she didn't really love him and she used him? Or is it the other way around and that she really did love him? I never really caught which way his reaction was.
Old 11-20-08 | 09:41 PM
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What I really need to know is this ..... Do we get to see Bond in a speedo again?
Or a naked torture scene?
Old 11-20-08 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dashed
I'm a huge bond fan and have seen all the movies. I must have missed it and will have to catch it next time I see the movie but, In the end when Bond drops the necklace in the snow. Is it because he realized that she didn't really love him and she used him? Or is it the other way around and that she really did love him? I never really caught which way his reaction was.
I thought it was because the necklace turned out to be a fraudulent type of gift. He guy used her, and gives the same necklaces out to his other victims. Maybe Bond thought Vesper would be offended and that's why he threw it away.
Old 11-21-08 | 06:03 AM
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It's about letting go of the past. In Casino Royale Bond notes that Vesper is no longer wearing the necklace. She says that she's realized that sometimes you can let go of the past. Bond dropping the necklace signifies that he's (finally) moving on. He's forgiven Vesper and himself.

I guess that's why the gunbarrel appears in the end. He strayed from the path as it were and was no longer Bond. He was a man consumed by revenge. Once he accepted what happened, he was no longer torturing himself and he is back to being Bond.

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Old 11-21-08 | 07:59 AM
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Saw this yesterday and on a whole, enjoyed it very much. At first was only so-so on it but at the end, looked back and thought it was a fine movie. It's good to see the mistakes and learning Bond did in this and Casino Royal. Interesting to see the next one and where they go with it.
Old 11-22-08 | 01:05 PM
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Hey guys, I have a code for 2 free tix to Quantum of Solace (bought my James Bond blu-rays from Amazon and the codes don't work in canada - I wasted one finding that out). If someone on here wants the double pass code, PM me. First come first served. GONE

Also, the one I wasted as a test, I used a buffalo postal code 10038 - so if you live in that region I can send you this other double pass, you'll just have to pose as my alias :P

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Old 11-22-08 | 01:47 PM
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Just as I was getting back into Bond again after Casino they come up with this stinker! Terrible film...what a huge letdown.
Old 11-22-08 | 03:48 PM
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Not understanding any hate for this one. As someone who thought Casino Royale was on its way to masterpiece territory before is disorienting and frankly boring third act, I thought Quantum of Solace was a better film in terms of structure and the continuity and/or length didn't bother at all. This is probably the most badass film they've done since Licence to Kill IMO. Shaky-cam action for this fit in the sense that the action is supposed to be a clusterfuck, but I still miss the old days. Had a very Tony Scott-esque vibe, and I mean that in a good way (the Man on Fire parallels were interesting, as was the Camille/Merano fight which reminded me of the Alabama/Virgil brawl from True Romance).

I will admit though, that as great and hard boiled I found it I found myself snickering at the "badass" moments, but it didn't bother me because of how fun it was. Here's my plot summary of this movie if you don't care to see it:

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Bent on revenge, Bond goes to Italy. He kills people.

Bond goes to Haiti. He kills more people.

Bond goes to Austria. He kills somebody.

Bond goes back to Italy, recruits old co-worker, doesn't kill anybody.

Bond goes to Bolivia. Along with an insanely hot woman, he kills multiple people, lets a desk agent get killed, and strands the main bad guy in the desert.

Bond goes to Russia. Someone gets shot. The movie ends.
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Also, so what if he didn't directly kill Greene? I actually thought it was cooler to strand him in the middle of the desert, and the can of motor oil was even more awesome.


So yeah, I dug it immensely. Sign me up for the next one. If they can please contact Tony Scott or Shane Black, I'd be in heaven.
Old 11-22-08 | 05:05 PM
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I thought the film was pretty good but anti-climactic. He didn't kill Vespa's boyfriend at the end. I guess it was good to show Bond isn't about revenge. I wonder if that guy will be the bad guy in the next one? For that matter anyone have any ideas what the next movie will be about?
Old 11-22-08 | 06:13 PM
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Did they just cut the scene with Bond in the desert with the huge gun being shown in all the previews or did I fall asleep?
Old 11-22-08 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
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I thought the film was pretty good but anti-climactic. He didn't kill Vespa's boyfriend at the end. I guess it was good to show Bond isn't about revenge. I wonder if that guy will be the bad guy in the next one? For that matter anyone have any ideas what the next movie will be about?
You missed a considerable plot point at the end of the movie.
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Not to be pedantic, but a Vespa is a motor scooter.

Vesper is the Bond character (and the subsequent cocktail, which is quite good).


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