You mind letting me know what I missed then?

And yes, it's Vesper. My mistake.

You weren't the only one in this thread. As a former mod and someone who really liked the novel and the film *and* who has made a few Vespers in his time (the drinks, not Eva Green, though I wouldn't say no), I think I was uniquely positioned to notice it.

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I'm confused about Greene:

and about Bond's revenge:

Yeah, I'm pretty sure DrMabuse, that other people were referring to the fact that Bond didn't kill Yusef, not that he didn't kill Greene - because he sure as hell got his, but Yusef, we're left wondering what his fate will be, because Bond decides NOT to kill him.

The walking ... you forgot about the walking!

Exactly. Greene wasn't Vesper's boyfriend.

I don't know that we're left wondering about Yusef. I assume Bond left him alive so MI6 could interrogate him about QUANTUM, since he was working for them.

Well, it looks to be still at a respectable 65% at RT. Definitely agree with it not being better than CR, but still one the best Bond movies of the last 25 years.

Look it wasnt a bad movie at all, quite enjoyable, but just didn't feel like an epic James Bond movie. I know it's harder nowadays than the 60s and 70s what with the bar being raised so high for action movies in general, but still, the villian lacked any epic nature to him, just some swarmy little git. No epic henchmen. Story wasn't particularly exciting.

Good to see Bond still has his Parkour skills. There were some decent action sequences

Daniel Craig has a crapload of potential in the role. Let's hope he is really given a Bond vehicle to shine in.

Title song was so bad I had to cover my ears. Easily one of the worst ever for a bond flick.

This was just a meh for me. Not the worst, Moonraker still holds that title, and not better than the average ones either.

I actuallyfound myself bored and waiting for it to get over and it felt a lot longer than it was.

Just did feel like a Bond flick overall... hope they get back to some of the "basics" that have come to love in them.

(This is part of a review I wrote for the movie, in case some of you may be wondering about the more formal style.)


Compared to Casino Royale, this latest entry is a huge disappointment. What's more, it's underwhelming. A Bond film should never be underwhelming.

Unlike most, I thought Quantum of Solace was pretty decent. Although it needed to slice out three-fourths of the action, replace it with plot and bump up the running time to about 2 hours, I wasn't pissed off at the end result. To quote Craig in CR, "Suppose that's something."

As well, so many people complained about the film's "shaky cam". The action sequences are indeed ineptly shot but they're not that hard to follow. The problem is there's so many of them that it starts to get ridiculous. Apparently the producers/director/screenwriters/whoever felt that five full minutes of dialogue might bore the audience so it would need to be punctuated by car chases, foot chases, fisticuffs, speed boating and DC3 shootouts.

They replaced Peter Lamont, production designer on the series since 1981's For Your Eyes Only and Daniel Kleinman, main titles designer since 1995's Goldeneye with two far less talented individuals. The film looks cheap in places (despite this being the most expensive installment of all) and the faux-retro opening credits are terrible. Even more excruciating is the Jack White/Alicia Keys song 'Another Way To Die' which - along with 1974's 'The Man With The Golden Gun' - represents the nadir of the Bond themes.

This script was handed in juuuuuust before the writer's strike deadline and it shows (why no one felt compelled to tinker with it after the strike is beyond me). The plot is insignificant (stealing Bolivia's water supply - ZOMG!) and the roles are underwritten. Sadly, this even includes Daniel Craig's.

Camille and "Strawberry" Fields (whose ultimate fate is a strange homage to 1964's Goldfinger) are two of the least memorable Bond girls. Although Mathieu Amalric plays Dominic Greene with bug-eyed sleaze, his character especially would have benefited from being fleshed out. Still, he's a great villain and perhaps the only part of the movie that had a lasting impact on me.

There's a shootout intercut with an opera that resembles the finale of The Godfather Part III and yet proves quite effective.

Unfortunately, QoS has perhaps the dumbest final area of any Bond movie: Perla De Las Lunas. This is a giant, vacant hotel nonsensically located in the middle of the desert. What's more, it's powered by fuel cells instead of solar energy. Fuel cells that apparently explode with the ignition of the smallest spark. It's like the Hindenburg on land. It makes even less sense than that laughable giant cargo jet in Die Another Day.

To its credit, the movie moves along at a relatively brisk pace, David Arnold once again turns in a haunting score (which inexplicably doesn't use the Bond theme) and Daniel Craig remains an excellent Bond. If only he had more to work with this time around.

There's also a death scene that I found very moving. That it affected me more than the resolution of the Vesper subplot (which I loved in CR) is an unforgivable mistake.

Just "meh" for me as well. Following Casion Royale was tough, CR was one of, if not, the best bond movie sof the alst 25 years. Quantum was nowhere near this. In fact I would say it was closer to the bottom of the barrell. Not a terrible film, just not as good as it should have been.

wow, and I thought 'Die Another Day' was bad, oh this was just joyless... filmmaking by rote... the script hardly made any sense, chases galore but badly edited. On the huge Uptown theatre screen the action scenes looked sloppy and motion sickness inducing. No gadgets, not enough Bond babes, no humour.... Marc Forster and the writers should all be royally horse whipped for making such a lacklustre Bond film.

the most annoying thing about Quantum of Solace being so bad is that it brought a bit more respect to Tomorrow Never Dies, The Wold is Not Enough, and Die Another Day, because as cheesy and bad as those were, at least those three were all more or less entertaining...Just because Quantum of Solace is a "serious" film, it doesn't make it any better film than a "cheesy" film. I think people are giving slightly extra credit to this film just because it was "serious." That's nice and flattering, but Quantum "seriously" sucked.

Thought the film was entertaining but I couldn't fight the fact that I felt disappointed.

I still love Daniel Craig as Bond, but the film fell flat on many occasions. The action scenes being filmed like the camera was in a washing machine was annoying.

Also at this point I'm hoping the next Bond villain will be a "cool" Bond villain, one that actually plays off Bond. Dominic Greene was just "meh".

Other than that there were a lot of fun action scenes in the movie, funny lines, and Craig was fantastic. Loved the "Goldfinger" reference.

Just hoping Marc Forster isn't asked to do another film.

I don't know if this was already answered but wasn't Al Pacino going to be in this movie?

Everything, what this guy said. If you liked the action sequences, that's because you used your imagination to fill in gaps. The actions scenes were unwatchable. I dont want to see shoes and legs only during a fight sequence.

Nah, I have very keen senses.

My thoughts too, except I didn't really like the action parts. After the first car case I kind of gave up watching them knowing Bond would always win. That and puzzling over Camille's peeling sunburn. BTW, why was he driving down into the quarry?

Yeah, that was the rumor but that apparently wasn't true. I'd love to see Al Pacino as the head guy of The Organization.

Also, I think it would be really cool if they brought Sean Bean back to reprise his role as 006.

did anybody have trouble understanding some of the dialogue? perhaps the theater's sound system was screwed up, but I found it very difficult to understand some of the actors.

one thing i just didn't get was why was Greene so interested in being the major utility company in Bolivia? How much money and power can really be gained by controlling the water supply of a country ranked around 100 in GDP? Or was this supposed to show that Quantum is still in its infancy and the evil organization needs to do lots of stupid little things like this before really being able to unleash havoc on the world?

Thanks! Sure seemed it was true at the time the way people were talking about it.

"'Tis better to reign in Hell,
than to serve in Heaven"

Here's an idea, though, about Quantum. What always confused me about SPECTRE is that when we first meet them, they seem to be nearly limitless in resources. I got the sense that they had concurrent operations running all the time. Then, after You Only Live Twice, it was really just Blofeld and his thugs. I realize this was largely due to the court battles over the characters and situations, but it still left the organization looking lame.

Perhaps we'll discover that Greene's operation in Bolivia was concurrent to some other similar power grabs for control over water or other natural resources. Or, for that matter, that the control over the water was really just the first step in controlling the entire government--recall, if you will, the way in which Greene completely manhandled the would-be ruling general?

Either way, controlling the water in Bolivia was just a piece of the puzzle, methinks.