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Well, I just got back from seeing Twilight. I can't review it but I'll say this...I went in with super low expectations and it was much better than I ever expected. It still has Lifetime movie moments and some cheesy parts and sfx, but the story held me, I was never bored and it doesn't overstay its welcome.
I wouldn't be rounding up my guy friends to see this, but females are gonna eat this up bigtime (with numerous repeated visits) and it's good enough for guys to go on date night without being miserable. When you combine all that it means Twilight is probably gonna make f'ing bank. I really can't put any estimate on what it'll do opening weekend because there's nothing to compare it to, but this should be really interesting to watch when the returns come in.
I wouldn't be rounding up my guy friends to see this, but females are gonna eat this up bigtime (with numerous repeated visits) and it's good enough for guys to go on date night without being miserable. When you combine all that it means Twilight is probably gonna make f'ing bank. I really can't put any estimate on what it'll do opening weekend because there's nothing to compare it to, but this should be really interesting to watch when the returns come in.
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How much was the movie made for? And they don't have to market this that well because they know that the fanbase is there and thats what is going to make a lot of money. Hell I know people from work that are going to see it at midnight then go again on Friday or Saturday again. Also one theater in town added a 2:30 am show since the midnight screening on 4 screens sold out. I bet that by Monday this does around the $70 million at the box office because of the hype and girls will see it at least twice this weekend.
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The studio's fear has always been that the audience wouldn't expand beyond the core fanbase, so they've been marketing it pretty aggressively actually. TV spots have been airing in heavy rotation for weeks now. But you're right that at this point, they're riding word of mouth and media hype as far as they can take it.
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I saw this tonight with absolutely no knowledge of it other than it had vampires. My observations:
1) The theater had already sold out several showing for tomorrow night.
2) The theater was playing three midnight showings of it (which is almost unheard of around here for a single theater). This movie is going to make $Texas, if not $Alaska.
3) All the theaters were packed, and the audience was 95% female. The other few percent of males were accompanying females. I'm fairly sure I was the only male attending the film by myself.
4) This isn't a bad movie at all. It's in some ways like watching a superhero movie more than a vampire movie though. There was an awful lot of screeching going on from the girls in the audience, which would have driven me away had I realized beforehand what the audience composition would be.
1) The theater had already sold out several showing for tomorrow night.
2) The theater was playing three midnight showings of it (which is almost unheard of around here for a single theater). This movie is going to make $Texas, if not $Alaska.
3) All the theaters were packed, and the audience was 95% female. The other few percent of males were accompanying females. I'm fairly sure I was the only male attending the film by myself.
4) This isn't a bad movie at all. It's in some ways like watching a superhero movie more than a vampire movie though. There was an awful lot of screeching going on from the girls in the audience, which would have driven me away had I realized beforehand what the audience composition would be.
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I saw this film at midnight. I don't know why. Maybe it's because I thought if I threw myself into it at the most frenzied time I could understand what could possess someone to find any literary competence, much less greatness in this book series. I came away a seething ball of hate. I couldn't even hit on the vast multitude of chicks because the thought of even a one-night stand with someone who loved this made me ill. Actually, the movie wasn't all together atrocious, even though the direction was awful, the dialogue was shit (not the filmmakers' fault I know, but they still could have chosen not to adapt a shitty piece of literature), and it was just dull. I thought the actors tried their damnedest though and even did well when the inanity of the script gave way to a real moment between the leads, but that couldn't save this.
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I personally wouldn't see it considering I hate Catherine Hardwicke.
But seriously, this is a film made for the fan base and the fan base only. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it seriously limits it's box office and wider audience appeal. Every time I've been to the movies in the past three months, I've wanted to put a gun in my mouth when the trailer came on because it was so fucking atrocious.
The only people I know who wanted to see the movie are fans of the book, everybody else I know has no desire to go (unless dragged by their significant other). And from what I saw, all the midnight showings in Vegas were sold out, a feat that hasn't been accomplished since The Dark Knight. This film will make serious bank this weekend, but unless the word of mouth is positive (it hasn't been from critics), this film will have some massive drops on the weekends to follow.
It kills me that Summit Entertainment is pouring millions into advertising this flick and couldn't do the same for Sex Drive.
But seriously, this is a film made for the fan base and the fan base only. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it seriously limits it's box office and wider audience appeal. Every time I've been to the movies in the past three months, I've wanted to put a gun in my mouth when the trailer came on because it was so fucking atrocious.
The only people I know who wanted to see the movie are fans of the book, everybody else I know has no desire to go (unless dragged by their significant other). And from what I saw, all the midnight showings in Vegas were sold out, a feat that hasn't been accomplished since The Dark Knight. This film will make serious bank this weekend, but unless the word of mouth is positive (it hasn't been from critics), this film will have some massive drops on the weekends to follow.
It kills me that Summit Entertainment is pouring millions into advertising this flick and couldn't do the same for Sex Drive.
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From IMDB.com:
http://www.imdb.com/news/ni0611277/
Stewart Reveals Secret Of Pattinson's Appeal
21 November 2008 4:13 AM, PST
Twilight actress Kristen Stewart has unearthed the secret of co-star Robert Pattinson's overwhelming popularity with female fans - he's a "tortured artist".
Stewart stars alongside the British hunk in the eagerly anticipated vampire film, in which she plays a normal high school student who falls for the sinister ways of Pattinson's blood-thirsty character Edward.
The 22-year-old Brit has been the target of Twilight fans adoration - causing chaotic scenes at the film's world premiere in Los Angeles and signings in California.
And Stewart is adamant the reason Hollywood's newest heartthrob sets hearts fluttering is because he looks as if he is constantly agonising over deep thoughts.
She says, "Oh, he's like a little tortured artist. He's British. He's tall. He always looks like he's thinking about something. And he's quite witty. So he's pretty sexy."
21 November 2008 4:13 AM, PST
Twilight actress Kristen Stewart has unearthed the secret of co-star Robert Pattinson's overwhelming popularity with female fans - he's a "tortured artist".
Stewart stars alongside the British hunk in the eagerly anticipated vampire film, in which she plays a normal high school student who falls for the sinister ways of Pattinson's blood-thirsty character Edward.
The 22-year-old Brit has been the target of Twilight fans adoration - causing chaotic scenes at the film's world premiere in Los Angeles and signings in California.
And Stewart is adamant the reason Hollywood's newest heartthrob sets hearts fluttering is because he looks as if he is constantly agonising over deep thoughts.
She says, "Oh, he's like a little tortured artist. He's British. He's tall. He always looks like he's thinking about something. And he's quite witty. So he's pretty sexy."
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So for someone whose a fan of vampire/superhero movies but has never read the book and it going with my wife tomorrow night will I enjoy this at all or wish I'd stayed home?
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I heard one bit of dialogue from the movie on this radio this morning. It went something like:
Bella: "How long have you been seventeen?"
Vampire: "Awhile"
Now if that dialogue doesn't suck ass then I don't know what does. How we get passion and romance from this stuff is beyond me.
Bella: "How long have you been seventeen?"
Vampire: "Awhile"
Now if that dialogue doesn't suck ass then I don't know what does. How we get passion and romance from this stuff is beyond me.
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I heard one bit of dialogue from the movie on this radio this morning. It went something like:
Bella: "How long have you been seventeen?"
Vampire: "Awhile"
Now if that dialogue doesn't suck ass then I don't know what does. How we get passion and romance from this stuff is beyond me.
Bella: "How long have you been seventeen?"
Vampire: "Awhile"
Now if that dialogue doesn't suck ass then I don't know what does. How we get passion and romance from this stuff is beyond me.
Spoiler:
I'm not seeing the huge problem with the dialogue there.
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Yeah honestly in terms of bad dialog, that isn't that bad. It's simple and to the point, I don't see the issue.
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There's some bad dialogue in "Twilight," but that line isn't one of them. The bigger problem with the film (which as I mentioned above isn't that bad as a whole) is the young, rookie secondary cast which because of their inexperience tend to flop around. Kristen's acting is the best, but even Rob gets uneven and the minor players can be downright terrible at times.
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My sisters who are die hards went last night and between them and their friends it was a 50/50 split of those who thought it was 'pretty good' and those who 'HATED' it... so I think the second week drop will be pretty HUGE... one of the girls had been waiting for the movie rabidly and went home and ripped her posters of Rob Pattinson down, because he ended up sucking in the movie... I love when people go ape shit crazy for something before they actually SEE IT.
I fucking hate Catherine Hardwicke with a passion, she has yet to make a movie that didn't annoy the shit out of me (even the ones with decent concepts/casts etc. she has found a way to make them pretentious, jumbled pieces of shit). I'm curious about this one just because of the hype and I'd like to have some reference the next time I want to tear her a new one, but I will wait until midweek - no way in hell am I contributing to the opening weekend box office. I'm pulling for BOLT in this race (unlikely).
I fucking hate Catherine Hardwicke with a passion, she has yet to make a movie that didn't annoy the shit out of me (even the ones with decent concepts/casts etc. she has found a way to make them pretentious, jumbled pieces of shit). I'm curious about this one just because of the hype and I'd like to have some reference the next time I want to tear her a new one, but I will wait until midweek - no way in hell am I contributing to the opening weekend box office. I'm pulling for BOLT in this race (unlikely).
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I listened to the audio book of Twilight after my wife said she loved it. I had also heard it was similar to Harry Potter. It was a little to teen angst for my taste and not similar to Harry Potter, but we are seeing this tonight and I am cautiously optimistic.
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I saw it this morning with a theater full of adults and some teens whom I bet ditched school to see it. The film is what is people. One thing is that Catherine Hardwicke shouldn't have been the person to have made this. I can't think off the top of my head who should have, but she was the wrong person to get to make this. Like another person said, the film feels like a lifetime tv movie. Rob Patterson was miscast. I feel bad for him because of the backlash he's going to take from fans. Fans will make this the number one film this weekend, but it will take a dive next weekend. And I still stand by my number that it will take around $60 to $70 million even if it's a bad film, the fans will go see it this weekend but I can't see it doing repeat bussiness.
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Reports are coming in that midnight showings for last night only for Twilight netted about $7 million! Midnight showings only! Crazy.
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Predictions from the web:
Box Office Guru - $60 million - http://boxofficeguru.com/weekend.htm
Box Office Report - $64 million - http://www.boxofficereport.com/wbon/forecast.shtml
Cinematical - $44 million - http://www.cinematical.com/2008/11/1...light-arrives/
Lee's Movie Info - $65.5 million - http://www.leesmovieinfo.net/movie-predictions.php
Box Office Whisperer - $64 million - http://movies.hsx.com/news/whisper/
Blogcritics - $75 million - http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/11/21/064338.php
Box Office Guru - $60 million - http://boxofficeguru.com/weekend.htm
Box Office Report - $64 million - http://www.boxofficereport.com/wbon/forecast.shtml
Cinematical - $44 million - http://www.cinematical.com/2008/11/1...light-arrives/
Lee's Movie Info - $65.5 million - http://www.leesmovieinfo.net/movie-predictions.php
Box Office Whisperer - $64 million - http://movies.hsx.com/news/whisper/
Blogcritics - $75 million - http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/11/21/064338.php
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I can't say how it'll do repeat-wise with wider audiences, but the general sense I've heard from the fanbase is they can't wait to see it again.
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First, his name is Robert Pattinson, not Patterson. And second, while you could debatedly be right that he's miscast in this role (I've certainly heard arguments that way from some critics), you're 100% incorrect that he'll take any sort of backlash from fans. I have been around the Twilighters, and they are absolutely in fucking love with him. They stampede shopping malls for him. They wait hours for him to appear at Planet Hollywoods. They wear t-shirts with his photo on it. They scream when his name comes up in the title credits, and they scream again when he comes onscreen. He is their christ figure.
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