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Tom Creo 07-16-12 04:53 PM

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I should've followed your lead, Groucho. Funny thing is, it states at the begining of the rview that there are slight spoilers ahead but nothing major. Well, one of their slight spoilers, when you think about it, is pretty fuckin' major and something alot of us here on DVDtalk have been speculating on.

DaveyJoe 07-16-12 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Creo (Post 11309932)
I should've followed your lead, Groucho. Funny thing is, it states at the begining of the rview that there are slight spoilers ahead but nothing major. Well, one of their slight spoilers, when you think about it, is pretty fuckin' major and something alot of us here on DVDtalk have been speculating on.

So it was JGL's chin? Fuck!

kgrogers1979 07-16-12 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 11309813)
Interesting how many people are booking two shows already. What if the movie sucks?

The movie isn't going to suck. The trailer is obviously enough for everyone to accurately judge the movie as a masterpiece just like The Amazing Spider-Man trailer was enough to accurately judge that movie as a piece of shit.

Troy Stiffler 07-16-12 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveyJoe (Post 11309935)
So it was JGL's chin? Fuck!

Nope. Harvey Dent's.

DaveyJoe 07-16-12 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by troystiffler (Post 11309952)
Nope. Harvey Dent's.

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whotony 07-16-12 06:33 PM

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CW network airing a special on the history of the Batmobile to it at 8 est.

Jules Winfield 07-16-12 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 11309525)
They can just use on-set interviews of Ledger in makeup.

Batman: "Hello, Joker".

Joker: "Hello."

Batman: "Any ideas on how I can deal with this Bane character?"

Joker: "When I developer a character it is a specific process-"

Batman: "TELL ME NOW!"

Joker: "Are we still shooting?"

Batman: "Shooting, no...I don't carry a gun."

Joker: "It was easy to romance Maggie because I romanced her brother in a previous role."

Batman: "Do you mean Rachel?"

Joker: "Yes"

Batman: "These are the insane ramblings of a crazy person. I'm done here."

Batman : I need to know where Catwoman is.

Joker: Chris is an amazing director.

Batman :So, her name is Christina? I had suspected Selina Kyle. What is she directing?

Joker: It's very hard to shed this persona but when I go home at night, it's a relief to wash off the makeup and cuddle up with a good book.

Batman: Don't you dare mock me! Gotham needs a symbol, one that will help it sleep at night. But a book does sound good.

wm lopez 07-16-12 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by whotony (Post 11308623)
You are a wacko. Woods was in Brainstorm and Lee was in Game of death how do those movies correspond with Rises?

That if there's footage of a dead star use it the fans will love it.

FRwL 07-16-12 10:07 PM

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CGI in Sage Stallone in quick before the film premieres.

DthRdrX 07-17-12 07:32 PM

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http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...54872466_n.jpg

Tom Creo 07-17-12 07:49 PM

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He kinda looks like a unmasked Predator on that poster.

FRwL 07-17-12 08:31 PM

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Who would have thought the badguy Bane would be unknowingly cast into the popculture stratosphere with this movie. This little 3rd wheel from Batman and Robin, the guy who didn't even come from the Bronze Age let alone the Silver Age.

Mike86 07-17-12 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FRwL (Post 11311453)
Who would have thought the badguy Bane would be unknowingly cast into the popculture stratosphere with this movie. This little 3rd wheel from Batman and Robin, the guy who didn't even come from the Bronze Age let alone the Silver Age.

Didn't you hear? The only reason they used Bane is because it's the latest attempt by the Democrats to attack Mitt Romney. At least according to Rush Limbaugh..http://http://www.nydailynews.com/en...icle-1.1116479

FRwL 07-17-12 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 11311458)
Didn't you hear? The only reason they used Bane is because it's the latest attempt by the Democrats to attack Mitt Romney. At least according to Rush Limbaugh..http://http://www.nydailynews.com/en...icle-1.1116479

Take that back! ...ahh it all makes sense.

E Unit 07-17-12 08:39 PM

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Roger Ebert's review.

http://www.rogerebert.com/apps/pbcs....IEWS/120719981

Spoiler:

The Dark Knight Rises


BY ROGER EBERT / July 17, 2012


Warner Bros. presents a film directed by Christopher Nolan. Screenplay by Jonathan Nolan and Christopher Nolan, based on characters created by Bob Kane. Running time: 164 minutes. MPAA rating: PG 13 (for intense sequences of violence and action, some sensuality and language).


"The Dark Knight Rises" leaves the fanciful early days of the superhero genre far behind, and moves into a doom-shrouded, apocalyptic future that seems uncomfortably close to today's headlines. As urban terrorism and class warfare envelop Gotham and its infrastructure is ripped apart, Bruce Wayne (Christian Bale) emerges reluctantly from years of seclusion in Wayne Manor and faces a soulless villain as powerful as he is. The film begins slowly with a murky plot and too many new characters, but builds to a sensational climax.

The result, in Christopher Nolan's conclusion to his Batman trilogy, is an ambitious superhero movie with two surprises: It isn't very much fun, and it doesn't have very much Batman. I'm thinking of the over-the-top action sequences of the earlier films that had a subcurrent of humor, and the exhilarating performance of Heath Ledger as the Joker. This movie is all serious drama, with a villain named Bane whose Hannibal Lecterish face-muzzle robs him of personality. And although we see a good deal of Bruce Wayne, his alter-ego Batman makes only a few brief appearances before the all-out climax.

Bane, played by Tom Hardy in a performance evoking a homicidal pro wrestler, is a mystery because it's hard to say what motivates him. He releases thousands of Gotham's criminals in a scenario resembling the storming of the Bastille. As they face off against most of the city police force in street warfare, Bane's goal seems to be the overthrow of the ruling classes. But this would prove little if his other plan (the nuclear annihilation of the city) succeeds.

Bane stages two other sensational set pieces, involving destroying the Stock Exchange and blowing up a football stadium, that seemed aimed at our society's twin gods of money and pro sports. No attempt is made to account for Bane's funding and resources, and when it finally comes down to Bane and Batman going mano-a-mano during a street fight, it involves an anticlimactic fist-fight. He blows up the city's bridges and to top that lands a right hook on Batman's jaw?

Bane is the least charismatic of the Batman villains, but comes close to matching Bruce Wayne and Batman in screen time. The film also supplies a heroic young cop (Joseph Gordon-Levitt), two potential romantic partners for Wayne, and lots of screen time for series regulars Alfred the Butler (Michael Caine, remarkably effective in several trenchant scenes), Commissioner Gordon (Gary Oldman) and the genius inventor Lucius Fox (Morgan Freeman).

One of the women is the always enigmatic Catwoman (Anne Hathaway), and the other is Miranda Tate (Marion Cotillard), a millionaire who may be able to rescue Wayne Enterprises after Bane's stock market mischief wipes out Wayne financially. Catwoman is a freelance burglar who's always looking out for number one, and Miranda is a do-gooder environmentalist; both are drawn irresistibly to Bruce, who is not only still a bachelor but has spent the last eight years as a hermit, walled up in Wayne Manor with the loyal Alfred.

All of these characters and their activities produce stretches in the first half of the film during which, frankly, I was not entirely sure who was doing what and with which and to whom. The movie settles in for its sensational second half, however, although not everybody will be able to precisely explain the deep stone well where Bane prisons Bruce Wayne. The circular walls of this well represent a deadly climbing wall by which anyone can try to reach freedom, but few succeed. The actual location is in Jodhpur, Rajasthan, India, and we get a glimpse of some zigzagging stairs that are unforgettably shown in "Baraka." Turns out Bane was held there as a child.

This is a dark and heavy film; it tests the weight a superhero movie can bear. That Nolan is able to combine civil anarchy, mass destruction and a Batcycle with exercise-ball tires is remarkable. That he does it without using 3D is admirable. That much of it was shot in the 70mm IMAX format allows it to make that giant screen its own. That it concludes the trilogy is inevitable; how much deeper can Nolan dig? It lacks the near-perfection of "The Dark Knight" (2008), it needs more clarity and a better villain, but it's an honorable finale.

whotony 07-17-12 08:45 PM

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Oh....his eyes are shaped like the Batman logo.

Dragon Tattoo 07-17-12 08:51 PM

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This is a dark and heavy film; it tests the weight a superhero movie can bear. That Nolan is able to combine civil anarchy, mass destruction and a Batcycle with exercise-ball tires is remarkable.
:lol:

PatD 07-17-12 09:04 PM

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So...Ebert gives Prometheus **** and The Dark Knight Rises gets ***?

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TheMovieman 07-17-12 09:20 PM

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Might've been mentioned already but Lisa Schwarzbaum from Entertainment Weekly gave Battleship a "B+" and TDKR a "B".

PatD 07-17-12 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMovieman (Post 11311505)
Might've been mentioned already but Lisa Schwarzbaum from Entertainment Weekly gave Battleship a "B+" and TDKR a "B".

Also:
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Superboy 07-17-12 11:05 PM

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One of my friends saw an early press screening, and all he said to me was:

"Watch this movie"

"you know how the taglines for TDK didn't really become entirely clear until you actually saw the movie? it's the same thing with TDKR"

C'mon guys. This is going to be a great movie.

PopcornTreeCt 07-17-12 11:20 PM

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Ebert has released his review and I'd advise you to stay away if you don't want any spoilers. I stopped reading about half way through. For the record he gave it 3 stars.

RichC2 07-17-12 11:23 PM

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I think Ebert had his mind kind of set on the movie before he saw it in defense of Christy, his Twitter feed has been pretty packed with backlash to negative review comments from the Rotten Tomatoes stupidity. Reading his review he seems to have flat out loved the 2nd half.

Mr. Cinema 07-18-12 06:57 PM

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Boxoffice.com is predicting a $198 million opening.

Paul_SD 07-18-12 07:59 PM

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The Dark Knight Rises is the most entertaining of Christopher Nolan’s Batfilms, but it is certainly not the best. Is it the worst? I’m not quite sure. I’m also not quite sure if it’s a bad film or not. The whole movie feels so like a series of contradictions - bloated and long yet rushed, deeply serious yet utterly silly, politically minded yet ultimately vapid - that being both wildly entertaining and a bad movie would be exactly right for it.

Every thematic element of the movie is confused.
Spoiler:
Gotham City is better off without a Batman, as crime is very low at the beginning of the film (“Soon they’ll have us chasing down overdue library books,” John Blake jokes at one point). The solution to Gotham’s crime problem was apparently... no parole for mob guys? That’s the only explanation given for the Dent Act, a piece of legislation that sweepingly changed the city. I expected the film to have the police force acting in a more fascist manner, or to find out that the Dent Act removed Constitutional rights or anything that made a lick of sense. Hell, I thought maybe it had cleaned up the police department, which always seemed to be the root of Gotham’s trouble and the reason it needed a Batman.

It’s all just a hand wave, though. Which wouldn’t bug me if the movie wasn’t so certain of its own serious intentions.

And so I find myself in this dilemma: is The Dark Knight Rises any good? The movie entertains. It has a James Bond sensibility where hugely improbable things occur but you shrug them off
Spoiler:
(Selina Kyle is after a computer program that will erase your name from every database on Earth - it’s total magic, but you go with it)
, and I respect the chances that Nolan takes in the last act with the extreme events in Gotham (although I wish he had done more with the setting). The movie is also clunky and structured strangely and - with the exception of Michael Caine’s Alfred - emotionally empty. The stakes have weirdly never felt lower than they do in The Dark Knight Rises. Nolan keeps the movie going from scene to scene, but the momentum is all cinematic, not narrative.
Amazingly, though these are Devin Faraci's criticisms of TDKR, they are the same exact criticisms I've had over TDK.
The brilliant and beautiful (Joker amasses a fortune and then torches it to the horror of his more conventionally venal compatriots) jockeys with the absolute inane, illogical, and unbelievable (rapists and murders suddenly have the same self sacrificing sense of altruism that regular middle class citizens have while average wage slaves will take a chance their children might become orphans so as not to see harm come to a ferry boat full of the dregs of humanity. And when the film posits this going down this way, doesn't it realize that it renders its original premise -along with a big premise point for the sequel- now invalid?)
Oh well. Sounds consistent at least.


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