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Dr. DVD 08-07-11 09:19 PM

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I wonder if that's coming out of Anne Hathaway or her stunt double's salary?

redrum 08-07-11 09:46 PM

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would a stunt double have $500,000 dollars?

Solid Snake 08-07-11 10:43 PM

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That's what insurance is for.

Josh-da-man 08-07-11 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 10881379)
I could argue that the ears might look dumb, but when one considers the fact that our hero has a bat-cowl on his head, it kind of nullifies such an argument.

This.

I mean, Christ, it's a fucking Batman movie.

Why have Selina Kyle in the movie if she isn't going to be Catwoman? Why not just name the character something else if she isn't going to be Catwoman?

The current Catwoman costume in the comics (the Darywn Cooke design) is fairly conservative and wouldn't be out of place at all. It's basically the suit Hathaway is wearing with the addition of a cowl with small ears and yellow-tinted goggles. It would fit right in with the Nolanverse. It's not like she'd be running around with big ears, whiskers, and a tail purring and meowing.

Nick Martin 08-07-11 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 10881916)
I wonder if that's coming out of Anne Hathaway or her stunt double's salary?

From all the photos we've seen, it's the stunt double on the Bat Pod.

RocShemp 08-08-11 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 10881379)
I could argue that the ears might look dumb, but when one considers the fact that our hero has a bat-cowl on his head, it kind of nullifies such an argument.


Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 10882054)
This.

I mean, Christ, it's a fucking Batman movie.

Why have Selina Kyle in the movie if she isn't going to be Catwoman? Why not just name the character something else if she isn't going to be Catwoman?

The current Catwoman costume in the comics (the Darywn Cooke design) is fairly conservative and wouldn't be out of place at all. It's basically the suit Hathaway is wearing with the addition of a cowl with small ears and yellow-tinted goggles. It would fit right in with the Nolanverse. It's not like she'd be running around with big ears, whiskers, and a tail purring and meowing.

If it's true that Selena steals the Batpod from Batman and then eventually allies herself with him, she'll probably get her headgear from him as well. Remember that in BB they established that the ears are actually audio receivers. It's not out of the question that Bruce might make a mask for her so they can keep in constant communication during a climactic action sequence.

kstublen 08-08-11 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 10882054)
I mean, Christ, it's a fucking Batman movie.

Why have Selina Kyle in the movie if she isn't going to be Catwoman? Why not just name the character something else if she isn't going to be Catwoman?

The current Catwoman costume in the comics (the Darywn Cooke design) is fairly conservative and wouldn't be out of place at all. It's basically the suit Hathaway is wearing with the addition of a cowl with small ears and yellow-tinted goggles. It would fit right in with the Nolanverse. It's not like she'd be running around with big ears, whiskers, and a tail purring and meowing.

:thumbsup:

Like I said before, I don't quite understand why people are okay with such a fundamental omission for this character, when they'd be up in arms if Nolan portrayed Batman without his cowl, etc.

RocShemp 08-08-11 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kstublen (Post 10882184)
:thumbsup:

Like I said before, I don't quite understand why people are okay with such a fundamental omission for this character, when they'd be up in arms if Nolan portrayed Batman without his cowl, etc.

Despite what the fans and the media call her, the official site refers to her as Selena Kyle. So we have not seen what Catwoman looks like (yet).

TheMovieman 08-08-11 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 10882183)
If it's true that Selena steals the Batpod from Batman and then eventually allies herself with him, she'll probably get her headgear from him as well. Remember that in BB they established that the ears are actually audio receivers. It's not out of the question that Bruce might make a mask for her so they can keep in constant communication during a climactic action sequence.

Certainly plausible.

Guru Askew 08-08-11 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kstublen (Post 10882184)
:thumbsup:

Like I said before, I don't quite understand why people are okay with such a fundamental omission for this character, when they'd be up in arms if Nolan portrayed Batman without his cowl, etc.

That's the thing though, they don't seem to care when he blows up Wayne Manor, smashes the bat signal, paints a tank black and essentially calls it a Batmobile etc.

He has an obvious and undeniable contempt for the source material and the fans love him for it. There's no fanbase with more self-loathing than the Batman fanbase.

RichC2 08-08-11 09:58 AM

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Actually there was a ton of contempt for the Batmobile prior to Batman Begins, or at the very least, prior to the trailer. Once people saw how it fit into the movie, most people seemed to think it worked.

TheMovieman 08-08-11 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 10882340)
Actually there was a ton of contempt for the Batmobile prior to Batman Begins, or at the very least, prior to the trailer.

Yep, I remember that very well.

fumanstan 08-08-11 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 10882336)
That's the thing though, they don't seem to care when he blows up Wayne Manor, smashes the bat signal, paints a tank black and essentially calls it a Batmobile etc.

He has an obvious and undeniable contempt for the source material and the fans love him for it. There's no fanbase with more self-loathing than the Batman fanbase.

Contempt for the source material is quite the hyperbole.

RoboDad 08-08-11 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 10882336)
That's the thing though, they don't seem to care when he blows up Wayne Manor, smashes the bat signal, paints a tank black and essentially calls it a Batmobile etc.

He has an obvious and undeniable contempt for the source material and the fans love him for it. There's no fanbase with more self-loathing than the Batman fanbase.

Thank you. I couldn't have said it any better, although I might amend it to say "the Batman movie fanbase".

ScissorPuppy 08-08-11 10:34 AM

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It's strange, it seems Batman fans are more open to interpretation as long as it's for a good reason or adds to the overall take on the character. While Superman fans bitch and complain about anything that doesn't look, sound or smell like it came from Richard Donner.

Groucho 08-08-11 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ScissorPuppy (Post 10882378)
It's strange, it seems Batman fans are more open to interpretation as long as it's for a good reason or adds to the overall take on the character.

What thread are you reading? People are going apeshit because Selina Kyle doesn't have cat ears in the photos released so far!

fumanstan 08-08-11 10:46 AM

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Seems more like people are forgiving after the fact once they see it work in the context of Nolan's movies. Unless you're Paul_SD that is.

ScissorPuppy 08-08-11 11:07 AM

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That's were I was coming from. At the end of the Day most Batman fans except several different types of versions of Batman. Some better than others, but they accept them. But for some reason that doesn't fly with Superman people. Which is strange, because for the most part you'd think they were the same people!

Paul_SD 08-08-11 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 10882397)
Seems more like people are forgiving after the fact once they see it work in the context of Nolan's movies. Unless you're Paul_SD that is.

My problems with the films are issues that I see on second and third viewings, and from reflecting on them. The only thing that I can recall criticizing up front, was the leaked dialogue from the bank hold-up (Criminals in this town used to have respect....). It seemed to support a view I'd come to have from Begins, in that Nolan had a tin ear for believable dialogue and would lapse into having characters pompously expound on the film's grand themes in a very arch, on-the-nose way.
In actuality, the dialogue in that particular scene was more justified because I didn't realize it was a 'mob bank'. OTOH, the film still had several scenes where the dialogue was as I described- most notoriously Gordon's cornball summation (to his 9 year old son, no less) at the end of the film.

during the production of these movies, I was overwhelmingly positive. Heath was an interesting choice that made me curious, not angry. Even though I was one of the few who thought Katie Holmes was fine in the role, I was still on board for MG as a replacement. All my major criticisms have come after digesting the finished product.

Even given the problems I have with TDK, I still think my comments about TDKR have been even handed and mostly positive. I'll be a bit disappointed if Nolan doesn't go back to earliest origins of Catwoman, like he did Joker- because I think at this point, that use of the character would be fresher and less cliched- but if it works in the film, I'll be happy to say so.

As for Supes, I'm mostly positive over there as well- with the big exception being one aspect of the suit. For basic aesthetic reasons, I don't like the change and don't think it improves on the design and don't buy the arguments that the old look was silly. The guy still operates in a cape and red boots, how were the trunks that much of a stretch?
But is it going to ruin my life, or the movie, if they aren't there? Of course not
Oh, yeah and Fishburne. I'm not eager to see an earnest, noble, heroic Perry White. I would much rather see a slightly cynical, working stiff, career newsman. I think Fishburnes casting implies more of the former than the latter.
But I could be wrong, and I'll wait to see the film before I get too worked up about it.

RocShemp 08-08-11 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 10882397)
Seems more like people are forgiving after the fact once they see it work in the context of Nolan's movies. Unless you're Paul_SD that is.

Unless they are one and the same, he'd get along with this guy.

Spoiler:
Just kidding. ;)

Solid Snake 08-08-11 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul_SD (Post 10882456)
As for Supes, I'm mostly positive over there as well- with the big exception being one aspect of the suit. For basic aesthetic reasons, I don't like the change and don't think it improves on the design and don't buy the arguments that the old look was silly. The guy still operates in a cape and red boots, how were the trunks that much of a stretch?
But is it going to ruin my life, or the movie, if they aren't there? Of course not
Oh, yeah and Fishburne. I'm not eager to see an earnest, noble, heroic Perry White. I would much rather see a slightly cynical, working stiff, career newsman. I think Fishburnes casting implies more of the former than the latter.
But I could be wrong, and I'll wait to see the film before I get too worked up about it.

Cuz it's underwear...outside your pants. That's a bit weirder than a cape and red boots. I wouldn't mind seeing a Supes w/ the red underwear...that's Superman. I'm also game for a non underwear out Superman. Superman is a bit more than just underwear. The underwear isn't a big deal. It doesn't really say anything for the character to have it. It's a change...that doesn't do anything to who the character is as a personality...besides that he likes his underwear in his pants.

Paul_SD 08-08-11 12:00 PM

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when you wear something consistently over other clothing- it's called outer wear.
Just cause I may wipe my nose on my shirt sleeves, doesn't mean I call my shirts handkerchiefs.

fumanstan 08-08-11 12:45 PM

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To be fair, people have been making fun of superhero underwear for a long time anyway.

Solid Snake 08-08-11 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul_SD (Post 10882477)
when you wear something consistently over other clothing- it's called outer wear.
Just cause I may wipe my nose on my shirt sleeves, doesn't mean I call my shirts handkerchiefs.

...it's still underwear...worn on the outside. Well...trunks I guess...cuz it doesn't have the dick opening.


Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 10882535)
To be fair, people have been making fun of superhero underwear for a long time anyway.

yeah...in the comics I'm glad they stopped Cap from having the blue trunks out his pants....that made less sense than Superman solely cuz of the color use.

RocShemp 08-08-11 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 10882576)
...it's still underwear...worn on the outside. Well...trunks I guess...cuz it doesn't have the dick opening.

And that's what bothers you most of all. :lol:


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