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Old 07-29-08, 02:40 AM
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Is Hollywood racist toward Hispanics?

On Sunday July 27th on SHOOTOUT on AMC. George Lopez said Hollywood doesn't doesn't show Hispanics enough or in good roles.
All I know is there are bunch of Hispanics in America both legal and illegal to support Hispanic films. Robert Rodriquez has had hit films with SPY KIDS series and some bombs too like GRINDHOUSE. And Antoino Banderas and Selma Hayek appear in movies. So why blame Hollywood because their own race doesn't support Hispanic films. George Lopez had a t.v. show for a few years and it got canceled. If George has issues with how Hollywood spends it's own money then go to Mexico and make movies there. Or better yet use your own money and produce a picture just like Mel Gibson did. And that goes for Spike Lee too!
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Originally Posted by wm lopez
On Sunday July 27th on SHOOTOUT on AMC. George Lopez said Hollywood doesn't doesn't show Hispanics enough or in good roles.
He's probably just talking about his own career. I wonder if he's even seen most of the films accomplished actors like Edward James Olmos have been in. What about Cheech Marin? He's no longer "celebrity" but he's developed a solid career as a character acter in films and TV.

What about JAVIER BARDEM, who played the most memorable screen character of 2007?! And won an Oscar for it. And got huge applause when he delivered his acceptance speech in Spanish.

Jennifer Lopez? Before she threw her career down the crapper, Hollywood seemed to have high demand for her.

You want to know a group that's underrepresented in Hollywood? Norwegians.
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It's George Lopez. 'nuff said.
Old 07-29-08, 08:02 AM
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Since I don't think Hispanics represent a distinct race, but are rather something closer to an ethnic group, no.

But to answer your basic question, Hollywood stereotypes everyone, but some groups, like Hispanics, get negatively stereotyped quite a bit.
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Originally Posted by Living Deadpan

You want to know a group that's underrepresented in Hollywood? Norwegians.
MacGyver FTW!


I never thought I'd see the day with wm lopez creating a thread defending Hollywood.
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Meh, every group gets ignored, suddenly "discovered", gets a chance to make Hollywood richer for a few years, then gets ignored again as soon as the next "big thing" comes around.

Rinse and repeat every few years and you have Hollywood's rhythm.
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shut the fuck up george lopez
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Didn't Jimmy Smits win the election on The West Wing?


I voted no.
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There are plenty of good roles for Hispanics in Hollywood. One of my Hispanic friends was "Drug Dealer #2" on The Shield. Another was featured as "Taco Vender" on Law and Order.
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Originally Posted by Groucho
There are plenty of good roles for Hispanics in Hollywood. One of my Hispanic friends was "Drug Dealer #2" on The Shield. Another was featured as "Taco Vender" on Law and Order.


Don't forget 'Ese #3' and 'Vato #2'.



But seriously folks...

Lopez is full of shit.
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Salma Hayek and Jennifer Lopez seem to be able to get work.
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Nah. It's worse for asians
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I read an article (I believe it was EW) where they discussed the whitewashing of TV. Very few minorities in the upcoming shows.

But, yeah, Asians have it worse.
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Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse
Lopez is full of shit.
Personal attacks about the OP will not be tolerated.
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Originally Posted by DeputyDave
Personal attacks about the OP will not be tolerated.




You beat me to it. I was going to ask, "George or WM?"




A bit of a tangent, so I apologize in advance. I'm a self-admitted lefty, so sure certain things such as this can bother me (especially when you end a rant with, "And this goes for you too, Spike Lee!" which just makes me flinch (even though Spike Lee is an overrated douchebag).

But I also get bothered when shows are accused of being two white or too black, not hispanic enough or gets panned for not having any gay characters.

I have a couple black friends and I have quite a few gay ones, but like I said, I'm a friggin' lefty. It's not normally the case, and it certainly wasn't with me until college. Even know, if you took the group of my friends that most consistantly hang out (we're talking every-other -day kind of thing), you've got 4 Micks, a Polock, a WASP, a 1/2 Asian, a Brit and Black guy. I'd suspect that even that empty canvas with a drop of ink is more divirse than many of my age group.

And that's not to say that people my age are xenophobic. Not at all. In fact, I think we're the first generation to not really give two shits about that kind of stuff. There's still racism, to be sure, but most university grads, it seems, have a much more laid-back view when it comes to ethnicity or sexual orientation or background or race. That being said, it's still not uncommon for groups of friends, roommates or even neighborhoods to be made up of a small homogonized group.

I don't think reflecting that on television or films is racist. In fact, I'd argue that shoe-horning a black girl into "Friends" or something is more racist in that it's patronizing.



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Hispanics are under represented? What about asians heh.
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Try finding a non-Hispanic on Telemundo or Univision, bitches!!

(Seriously those two channels have a worldwide television audience that puts a LOT of channels to shame...)

I watch hours of novellas and Sabado Gigante trying to catch a scintillia of a wisp of pantie... and there's nobody there who couldn't be wearing a flannel shirt and a hair-net in 108 degree weather, or offering up a good ol' "pop in the toaster" in the back of my El Camino while avoiding La Migra during Japanese Arbor Day. And I say this as a proud Hispanic man. Don't believe me? I'll break you with my bare hands!!!!
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Originally Posted by superdeluxe
Hispanics are under represented? What about asians heh.
I think we're well represented... unless we're required to do more than pose or kick some ass.
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Originally Posted by RichC2
I think we're well represented... unless we're required to do more than pose or kick some ass.

Still, that's pretty awesome.



My people drink and fight.


(although that's also pretty awesome...)



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This is funny considering that it is coming from someone who built their career on making race jokes.
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This just in from Clint Eastwood:

"George Lopez should shut his face."
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I don't think anything is 100% racist free, particularly something as vague and enormous as "Hollywood". Still, I don't feel that hispanics can't get good enough work or roles. It's a competitive business.

Admittedly, many shows or movies go for white characters for fear of alienating the "white" audience. But I wouldn't call that racist. I'd call it business. People are trying to maximize their ratings, and ultimately profits. Granted, I'd question the wisdom of such logic. But Hollywood does lots of things in an effort to streamline their product to appeal to the masses. And a lot of these actions don't always appears logical or necessary. But it's motivated by money, not skin color.
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Originally Posted by wm lopez
So why blame Hollywood because their own race doesn't support Hispanic films.
So much wrong with this statement I don't know where to begin.

Actually, I know where to begin.

Who the hell ever taught you that "Hispanic" was a "race"?



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Originally Posted by Lunatikk
This is funny considering that it is coming from someone who built their career on telling other people's race jokes.
Fixed!
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Originally Posted by LotusEater79
I cannot tell if you were being sarcastic. Telenovellas are notorious for not having a diverse casting makeup. All one has to do is watch a Telenovella once and you will rarely see someone of George Lopez' race (AmerIndian) as a lead character. The racial makeup of Telenovellas is completely different than Latin American immigrants who are overwhelmingly AmerIndian/Mestizo or black/mulatto.
I watch novellas ONLY to catch a glimpse of scantily clad wimmens. Although I did get into "O Clone / El Clon" bigtime back in 2002. "Esmeralda" was pretty good too. And Sabado Gigante is groin-grabbingly excellent.

But I get what you're saying. People think Hispanic = Spanish-speaking individual, whereas if you watch a novella you're gonna see a gamut of Spanish-speaking individuals of all races. Most of them semi-naked.

Although I would say the majority of novella types you see are semi-morenos.


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