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Batman Begins 3 - Villain?

Old 07-20-08, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dugan
I can resist saying this no longer.

The villain in Batman Begins 3 should be SPAWN!

Michael Jai White played one of the Dark Knight goons. He had previously played Spawn.
Joke post?

Spawn isn't even a DC comics character.


Originally Posted by devilshalo
The problem with Bane is you need to sort of establish other villains for Batman or at least touch upon his rogues gallery. I don't see Joker and Scarecrow being able to run the Batman into exhaustion.
Using Bane for the third movie doesn't mean that they need to necessarily regurgitate everything from the Knightfall storyline.
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Old 07-20-08, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeffy Pop
Does anyone really want to see a two and half hour movie of Batman solving brain teasers?
The third Die Hard movie was pretty good.
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Old 07-20-08, 07:52 PM
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They could go with Harley Quinn.
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Old 07-20-08, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Groucho
The third Die Hard movie was pretty good.
Well, I'm sure there's already plenty of threads discussing the quality of Die Hard 3, so I'll keep it short and say that I completely disagree.
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Old 07-20-08, 08:56 PM
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Personally I wish the series would end because as another post said, they "blew their load" with this one. If Nolan does sign on to do one more, my choice would be Catwoman (paging Angelia Jolie). I could possibly see the Riddler if they made him into a Zodiac type killer.
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Old 07-20-08, 08:57 PM
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I vote for the Riddler too. And Catwoman.
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Old 07-20-08, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Raul3
I vote for the Riddler too. And Catwoman.
Both the Riddler and Catwoman were foreshadowed in TDK.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/faq#.2.1.5

"There is one point where Lucious Fox and Batman are discussing the new Bat-suit. Batman makes a comment about the strength of the suit, saying it could protect him from "cats"--a possible (Zephyr2006 says Definite Reference) reference to Catwoman.

Some are saying that a man who tried to blackmail Batman, named Mister Reese (Mysteries) will turn into The Riddler."


Mister Reese = Mr. Reese = Mysteries = Riddler... I don't know if the guy who played him in TDK could handle the new role... but who knows. Plus, Jim Carrey's riddler was hell-bent on finding out who Batman is... this guy already knows.
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Old 07-20-08, 09:24 PM
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I think if they were foreshadowing the Riddler with Reese, they would have hired a name actor and signed him to a 2-picture deal.
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Old 07-20-08, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Huh? While I agree that the realistic Nolan Universe takes a lot of Bat-villains out of the running, I can't buy Bane in this universe either.

Bane is basically "the hulk" on fast acting steroids. I don't think Bane pumping up and throwing cars at Batman would work in a 3rd Batman film.

...but that's just me.

That said, since a certain party is out of the picture at this point, Catwoman could be a reasonable villain/love interest in the next film.
Obviously, he wouldn't be a CG-abomination, but just someone who's really jacked who could f*ck Batman up. If you could buy:
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two-face running around with half a face without getting an infection
then someone the size of Bane shouldn't be THAT unrealistic.
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Old 07-20-08, 10:52 PM
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Old 07-20-08, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BullGooseLoony
Obviously, he wouldn't be a CG-abomination, but just someone who's really jacked who could f*ck Batman up. If you could buy:
Spoiler:
two-face running around with half a face without getting an infection
then someone the size of Bane shouldn't be THAT unrealistic.
Yeah, I agree. Batman/Bale is fairly muscular, but it would be just fine having a large dude be able to toss Batman around.
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Old 07-20-08, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fumanstan
Yeah, I agree. Batman/Bale is fairly muscular, but it would be just fine having a large dude be able to toss Batman around.
Here's the rub - name an actor noticeably larger than Bale.

Who can act.
Really well.
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Old 07-20-08, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeffy Pop
Does anyone really want to see a two and half hour movie of Batman solving brain teasers?

I'd pay $13.50 to watch Batman do Sudoku

I think the Riddler as a calculating, gruesome puzzle setting character would definitely work. Especially if he and Batman don't come into contact until close to the end ala Seven. This could really show off Batman's detective skills while trying to hunt down who the Riddler is.

As filler, Batman would have a love interest who moonlights as a cat burglar. Nothing major, but enough to wreak havoc during the film. I believe in the comics Catwoman isn't completely evil either, so maybe her being in that "gray" area could be interesting.

Of course I would love to see the Joker return in some capacity. Possibly in a Hannibal Lecter role at Arkham?
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Old 07-20-08, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by clemente
Here's the rub - name an actor noticeably larger than Bale.

Who can act.
Really well.
Michael Clarke Duncan! Er... wait.... crap.
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Old 07-20-08, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Groucho
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Old 07-20-08, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by clemente
Here's the rub - name an actor noticeably larger than Bale.

Who can act.
Really well.
I'm not saying he's a great actor by any means, but Vin Diesel still has potential as an actor. And I think he could be a scary MF if he wanted to be.
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Old 07-20-08, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by GLENDALEFALCON
I think the "Clock King" would be a good fit for the world of Gotham City they've created in this series. He's a loner, sick of people walking over him, not respecting him, low level lawyer or bureaucrat in a corrupting environment. He feels more moral, ethical, and intelligent than the vast majority of Gotham City. In addition, Mr. Nolan has shown a great deal of interest in messing with time (i.e. Memento and even The Prestige). Johnny Depp would be perfect. As for the Joker, I'd take Jonathan Rhys-Meyers as a good replacement for Ledger. Oh, Ben Foster as the Riddler in a future
film.
Wasn't he just in the newest storylines in "Teen Titans", I hadn't seen him before that. Cool character, they didn't dig too deep into his personality but still really good.
As of the next bad guy is, i'd say screw it. Just do "The Killing Joke" and add to it to fill in for time.
If you were going to go with a someone new, Riddler and Catwoman would be a good choice since we haven't seen either one from the comic books. While the acting was good in both roles(in returns and forever) obviously someone didn't read the comics when writing the script. At least not the books i've read. I'm not really trying to be a picky super-geek and i can see them making some changes to the characters but to me they were no where near the characters that i knew and loved.

Originally Posted by resinrats
Have Bane be the villian (hired by Penguin) but have him smart, unlike the bafoon in Batman & Robin.
Didn't they do that in "Batwoman",
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Old 07-20-08, 11:40 PM
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Damn, beat to it... Shoulda kept reading.
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Old 07-21-08, 12:02 AM
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Bane is not a difficult character to adapt. You can hire a pro bodybuilder, throw a mexican wrestling mask on his head, dub his lines and there you go. The thing with Bane that needs to be brought forward in the script is that he isn't just a dumb goon.

I think to determine the villians we need to figure out which ones fit into a world where Batman is on the run from both the law and the mob. Yes, there is always a mob!
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Originally Posted by clemente
Here's the rub - name an actor noticeably larger than Bale.

Who can act.
Really well.
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Old 07-21-08, 04:24 AM
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You guys and Bane. Whatever...I still think it sucks but if it'll get me another Batmovie then I'll play along.

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Old 07-21-08, 04:29 AM
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Old 07-21-08, 06:41 AM
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Javier Bardem as Bane. "Call it, Batto." =O
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Old 07-21-08, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Groucho
I think if they were foreshadowing the Riddler with Reese, they would have hired a name actor and signed him to a 2-picture deal.
I don't know Spider-Man 2 & 3 had Kurt Connors and he never turned into Lizard.
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Old 07-21-08, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dubya
Personally I wish the series would end because as another post said, they "blew their load" with this one. If Nolan does sign on to do one more, my choice would be Catwoman (paging Angelia Jolie). I could possibly see the Riddler if they made him into a Zodiac type killer.
I think Jolie would be pretty good as Catwoman. Not sure how you tie her into a story that's going to be up to the standards set by TDK, though.
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