Wait, so it's a spoiler that The Blair Witch Project wasn't a snuff film?

You should have said he was gay. THAT would have been impressive.

I remember renting the VHS tape of "I Know What You Did Last Summer" and the freaking trailer for part two was on BEFORE the film started. So much for not knowing how the first film would end!

Yeah, I suppose I can't complain since it's been a year, but I have yet to see Saw III. Thanks to all the TV commercials for Saw IV I know what to expect at the end of part 3.

It was more like a teaser for part two if I remember correctly, but it showed various death scenes and who survived from the first film.

I'm amazed (and rather pleased) that we're 56 posts in and no bonehead has pulled out an overused "Passion of the Christ" joke.

Listening to the radio and having some idiot say "I know I shouldn't say this but.." and giving away the big thing in Million Dollar Baby before I could even change the channel.

Fun Fact: Both of these movies somehow manage to take place during the summer of 1998.

Has anyone seen the Turkish versions of ET and Star Wars. These are considered masterpieces within Turkey and are actual movies. We would, of course, find them low budget camp flicks, but thats their allure.



See, even if you know the ending, you can still enjoy something.

Even though this is a spoiler thread, you still need to use spoiler tags! -Blake

You didn't just give away the ending to a thriller, did you?

Buckleyesque, put spoiler tags in your post!

that's twice buckleyesque has done that in this post! someone want to ban this guy?

Now he's just doing this shit on purpose.

Dumbledore isn't gay, he's just going through a phase....

I would like to hear from people that feel compelled to spoil things for others and understand why they have to do this. I've had everything spoiled for me from The Crying Game to delayed football games on my DVR. It's ruined so many experiences where other people got to enjoy a surprise that I've developed a "zero-tolerance spoiler" policy in my life.

I absolutely do not watch trailers. I do not read the back of DVD cases. When a TV show ends and shows what's on next week I hit the mute button and look away. Heck, when I pop in a DVD and the menu screen comes on, I look away! If a news show talks about an upcoming movie I plan to see, I change the channel. People that know me will joke about how you can't discuss any details of a movie around me that I've not yet seen. Still, things continue to get spoiled for me about as frequently as before I started practicing this.

And some folks just don't realize that the little details they give about a movie, especially the inflection in their voice when they say it, is a MAJOR spoiler most of the time. Example: If you say Million Dollar Baby is a...



...guess what? You just told me how it ends moron!

I'll have to say this thread, thanks to Buckleyesque's posts...

I think some people always have to be in the know. They always have to know more than you and they aren't happy until they make sure that everyone knows that they know more.

It's the same reason certain people can't keep secrets. They just have to tell everybody that they know something that everyone else doesn't. It's a psychological condition if you ask me.

I had the Sixth Sense spoiled on a message board (as a topic title). It was hardly a terrible experience though. In fact it was nice, when I eventually did see it, that my attention wasn't focused towards the almighty 'twist'.

I've found that I will enjoy lesser movies if I don't have any knowledge of the plot. In those cases, as long as the narrative moves fluidly and efficiently, I can at least distract myself.

Of course, there are plenty of bad movies with predictable plots that do add up to a terrible experience.

But for the good movies, I almost prefer to know a plot outline or such so I can sit back and take in all aspects of cinema, rather than narrow my focus on the story.

Primal Fear was ruined for me. Granted it had been out for a couple years and Ed Norton had been nominated for an Oscar, but I didn't need my friend blurting out that

Million Dollar Baby wasn't ruined for me, but the ending was strongly hinted at by a certain rightwing radio host who referenced Jack Kevorkian when discussing the movie. Once the tragic 3rd act twist came along, I knew exactly where the story was headed.

I don't know if this counts, but I caught some of the dreadful remake of The Wicker Man at my now ex-girlfriend's apartment a couple months back. I had recently ordered the 1973 original on DVD and heard it had a great shocker ending. Too bad I now know what it is.

Scream was also kind of spoiled for me back in the summer of '97. A friend of mine mentioned that there were 2 killers. Thankfully I didn't know who they were.

Fight Club amazingly enough was ruined by the back cover of the book. Before the movie came out, it stated exactly what the connection was between Tyler Durden and the narrator. I read the book anyway and loved it(as well as the movie when that eventually came out), but that really pissed me off since you clearly weren't meant to know that until 2/3's of the way through. And of course after the movie came out and they reprinted the book, that spoiler was removed from the cover.

Well, I think things continue to get spoiled for you because you're so anal about it. But I'm alike - I also try to avoid anything about a film before I see it, but of course it's hard. Perfect occasion is if someone whose taste I completely trust says: this is a great film! I need nothing more - I go, rent and watch it. No trailers, no annotations on the back cover, just a film. In other cases even if I don't know the ending it still annoys me I know too much. Take any DVD - you got the whole premise on the back cover. Take... I don't know - Enemy of the State. You already know the whole thing about Will Smith from different sources. For me it would better be left unknown. So yeah, not only the ending counts. The less I know before the viewing the better.

I do agree I might consider a lot more things in a movie as a spoiler than the average viewer. It's because I often wonder whether my enjoyment of a movie would increase if the marketing behind the film didn't promote "the twist."

For example, were we supposed to know From Dusk till Dawn was about vampires or that The Truman Show was about a giant reality show? Sure there still would have been little clues as the movie progressed, but would I have missed them until a repeat viewing? I think if these movies had surprised me halfway through, it would have greatly increased my appreciation the first time I saw them.

I agree completely, and the films you mentioned here - From Fusk Till Dawn and The Truman Show - are the greatest examples. Had I seen them not knowing anything about their "twists" I'm sure my appreciation would have increased immensely.

Isn't there a difference between a "spoiler" and a premise, though? Truman Show and Dusk till Dawn examples are about their very premise. It's a bit unreasonable to expect movies to be presented with a plain brown wrapper. A spoiler would be that, say, Quentin Tarantino's character turns out to have been a vampire all along (just made that up for the example) not that there are vampires in the film.

At a certain point a "spoiler" becomes so ingrained in the popular culture that it is no longer a spoiler, even if there are still people who have managed to stay in the dark. Best example is Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker's relationship. Perhaps you are one of 2 people who have never really cared about Star Wars and were never exposed to it. Are we all supposed to never make reference to the most famous quote from the entire saga (we all know what it is)? It might not have started that way and was a surprise at the time, but it became the central premise of Star Wars, itself.

I suspect that Million Dollar Baby will eventually become known for its denouement rather than it being a spoiler, much like Psycho is known for the shower scene. I don't think Fight Club is in that Psycho territory yet. Doughboy, you managed to spoil 3 movies in your post.

Fight Club and The Sixth Sense were both ruined for me, the latter I have never even bothered to see. Probably the worst spoiler I ever got though was something not from a movie but a tv show, 24, season 1. That pissed me off.

FDTD is a spoiler IMO. I havn't seen it in some time but I can't remember anything in the film hinting at what was going to happen. Most could assume the movie was simply about the two cons kidnapping that family, then it becomes a vampire story lol.

I'd agree that Truman Show was a premise. It was made very clear right from the start what was going on when we are shown people watching Truman through his bathroom mirror.