"The De2ent" -- aka "The Descent 2"
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The Descent succeeded because it had a very real sense of pathos thanks to the first fifteen minutes of the film. In that period of time it established a sympathetic character worthy of pity and admiration (really, who gets over that?) and then put her up in the tree to be tormented for the rest of the film.
Like the ending of the U.S. theatrical version, though, the sequel looks like a train wreck.
Like the ending of the U.S. theatrical version, though, the sequel looks like a train wreck.
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I thought it effectively conveyed horrible claustrophobia (I think the movie made me never ever want to go into any sort of underground cave ever) but I thought the other aspects of it were pedestrian. Certainly not as good as I had hoped from UK reviews touting it as the "scariest movie ever".
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Although there is a possibility it's all in Sarah's head, neither version really establishes that concretely at all. It's just an amusing fan theory.
There was a summary of the sequel plot someone posted on IMDB. Basically the suequel pics up exactly where the first left off. Although we heard Juno scream, we never saw her die. She finds Sarah and they meet up with another group of people. Lemme see if I can find it and post it here.
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SPOILERS ** Full Script
Okay, I found the post:
Spoiler:
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as much as i'd like to skip this.. i'll probably sucker myself into watching it... just like i do with every awful Saw film.
seriously though, this sequel sounds like the equivalent of "Three Ninjas Kick Back!"
just like '28 Days Later'... you get the idea - the symbolism is made plain in clear view - it ends at a fantastic point. why would a sequel be necessary for either of these? well.. aside from obvious box office sales.
seriously though, this sequel sounds like the equivalent of "Three Ninjas Kick Back!"
just like '28 Days Later'... you get the idea - the symbolism is made plain in clear view - it ends at a fantastic point. why would a sequel be necessary for either of these? well.. aside from obvious box office sales.
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I was VERY reluctant to see 28 Weeks Later. Recently it was one of my "oh, what the hell? Why not?" rentals and I was pleasantly surprised. I'm hoping the same holds true for this sequel.
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With Marshall not having a hand in this sequel, I don't know how I feel just yet. I'll probably see it as I loved the first; but doesn't mean I'll like it.
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I guess my lowered expectations and your raised expectations directly related to our respective enjoyment of that sequel?
I hope that same holds true for me with The De2ent. I loved the first and feel a sequel is pointless. However, I know I'm gonna watch it anyway.
I didn't know there was gonna be a a 28 Months Later. I simply took the last scene of 28 Weeks Later as a typical horror movie non-ending. That the story continues even if there might not be a sequel.
I hope that same holds true for me with The De2ent. I loved the first and feel a sequel is pointless. However, I know I'm gonna watch it anyway.
I didn't know there was gonna be a a 28 Months Later. I simply took the last scene of 28 Weeks Later as a typical horror movie non-ending. That the story continues even if there might not be a sequel.
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I'll watch the sequel, but won't expect much. I think I would rather it not pick up right after the first, but whatever.
I still need to pick up the region 2 Dog Soldiers disc.
I still need to pick up the region 2 Dog Soldiers disc.
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The problem is that any way you try to make a sequel or prequel to this, we've been there before.
They could make a sequel that only features the new team searching for the girls from part one. But that'll essentially be a retread of everything that happened in part 1 but with more gore and the reveal coming in sooner.
They could make a prequel of the first team that was there about 100 years ago. But it would essentially be the first film but in the early 1900s. But, once again, that'll essentially be a retread of everything that happened in part 1 but with more gore and the reveal coming in sooner.
At least from what I see in that spoiler I quoted from IMDB,
It's not perfect
but at least it has enough setup to build tension. That buildup is where the strength of the first film lies. Hopefully the sequel can match it.
Since LosingMyMind brought up Dog Soldiers, are there any plans for a BD release of that film?
They could make a sequel that only features the new team searching for the girls from part one. But that'll essentially be a retread of everything that happened in part 1 but with more gore and the reveal coming in sooner.
They could make a prequel of the first team that was there about 100 years ago. But it would essentially be the first film but in the early 1900s. But, once again, that'll essentially be a retread of everything that happened in part 1 but with more gore and the reveal coming in sooner.
At least from what I see in that spoiler I quoted from IMDB,
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
Since LosingMyMind brought up Dog Soldiers, are there any plans for a BD release of that film?
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I'm not reading the spoiler to the sequel as I am tempted to actually watch the movie, but I'm curious if Lionsgate will send this to theaters or direct to video.
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Check out the writer's other work. I've seen it and I'm now looking forward to this sequel.
Reviews:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/36016/eden-lake/
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/35929/eden-lake/
Reviews:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/36016/eden-lake/
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/35929/eden-lake/
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Just checked out the promo trailer on YouTube. I gotta say, it looks a lot better than I thought it could. Granted, I'm sure it would be much better if Marshall were back but I'll more than likely pick up the DVD. Anyone know if this is DTV or theatrical?
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I wasn't that impressed with the Teaser, but I had a bias going into it. Will go for my love of the first film and stay for the hot chicks with fancy accents.
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Thought the preview looked terrible, and lowered my already low expectations... I'll rent it for $1 from Redbox, but that's about it.
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Doesn't this remind you guys of Alien? Sarah isn't unlike Ripley, plus they're using the "you're the only one who's been down there so you have to be part of the team" angle. Might as well just send her down with a bunch of marines and turn this into over the top action like Alien(s).
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The trailer for the second actually made me want to revisit the first, which I was underwhelmed by when it came out after all this "scariest movie ever!" talk.
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looks like a complete retread and will never capture the absolute magic of the first.
thanks to anavrin0901 for original post.
looks like a complete retread and will never capture the absolute magic of the first.
thanks to anavrin0901 for original post.
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The teaser left me indifferent. It didn't kill my moderate interest in the sequel but it certainly didn't encourage it either.
#73
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I still think the best way to have a sequel to the original would be an entirely different set of people find the cave, with no one from the original film appearing or being mentioned in it at all. That way, both the superior, darker U.K. ending (aka the unrated version) or the inferior U.S. ending (that omits the real ending) would still be valid.
I mean who really cares about seeing any of the human characters from the original again anyway? It's what's living in the cave that matters!
I mean who really cares about seeing any of the human characters from the original again anyway? It's what's living in the cave that matters!
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Both the US release and the UK release are inconclusive regarding the final fates of those two women. Having Sarah escape doesn't invalidate anything. She could have easily snapped out of her delirium just in time to avoid detection and chance upon an exit. And Juno could have easily tumbled through one of the many passages in the cave and avoided death by the skin of her teeth. Afterward she could easily be hiding from the crawlers whilst still searching for a way out once Sarah was dragged back into the cave by the search team.
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In fact, the implication of the whole movie is no one has ever gotten out of that cave alive. That's why it was never on any maps even though they found old climbing equipment still in the cave. No one ever gets out alive and the existence of the crawlers is never reported to the world.



