first,let me just say that Death Proof and Planet Terror are one of the coolest movies i've seen this year...anyways,here's what info i've gathered in the last few months...and please correct me if iam wrong:


problem 1:depsite huge online marketing,kick ass trailers and posters and A-list actors like Bruce Willis and Kurt Russell the movie bombed in the US,it opened with about $4 million.it eventually grossed $25 million,it was made for $53 million.

fact 1:the average moviegoer don't know what Grindhouse is,in fact the majority of movie goers beloew 25 are not familiar with grindhouses so why in the hell do you expect ppl to go watch 3-hour of something they don't know,i have no idea....confusion.






problem 2:rumors all over the internet that the wienstien bros.want to cut the movie in 2 halves and release them to THEARTES IN THE US in the summer of 2007.one after another.

Fact 2:none of that happened...confusion.



problem 3:Tarantino freaks out and decides to release a longer version of his movie ONLY,leaving more questions whether that longer version will be released again in the US cinems?on DVDs? in europe?



Fact 3: umm yeah more and more confusion.



Problem 4:Tarantino announces at cannes that the movie will be cut into 2 halves in Europe/rest of the world ONLY and planet terror WILL GO FIRST.

Fact 4:some countries got Planet Terror first and some got Death Proof first.yes....more and more confusion.



problem 5: wait! which version will be released in europe/rest of the world? the short Us version or the "international" version?! Doh! of course the longer international version,why is it called that then?!



Fact 5: some countries got the longer versions and some got the short Us versions of each,here in the middle east/gulf/bahrain we got the short US ones.confusion.




Problem 6: The R1 DVDs gets announced sepearetly leaving ppl who didn't catch the full Grindhouse experince in the dark.

fact 6: umm yeah.



Problem 7: the DVDs are labled as "unrated and uncut" with "many extras" which is very good but will it inlclude the fake trailers we've been hearing about for months?

Fact 7: NO!


who is to blame here? personally i blame George Bush and Nicole Richie.

Movie is playing at our Student Life Building Cinema tonight and tomorrow, giving consideration to seeing a 3rd time.

This thread: CONFUSION.

Problem 8: Too many GH threads.

Problem 9: There is no problem 9.

Leading to even more confusion.

problem 10: shut the fuck up all of you! lol

I'd be fine with it if they released an Ultimate Edition with the original theatrical cut. Which I'm sure after the individual releases they'll come out with just to make us double dip.

The biggest problem it had was it shouldn't have been released on good friday easter weekend, even I felt a little bit guilty skipping out on church to go see it.

Don't be silly. Sin City had a hit opening the weekend Pope John Paul II passed away.

I'm surprised they didn't market the film with that. "Sin City was released the weekend the Pope died! Now the same filmmakers are back, with something even SICKER for the weekend JESUS died!"

That's just silly.

Fact: Bears beat Battlestar Galactica!

Fact: There was a Grindhouse thread that could have contained all this discussion and had a lot of this already talked about.

Reality: Look at the lack of Kill Bill Collectors Edition and the cluster fuck that is Grindhouse's release seems not so out of left field.

The Kill Bill on dvd fiasco is absolutely absurd. The movie was basically made for a giant, four-disc boxed set treatment...

Lame excuse. Let's see, church is Sunday morning, right? Maybe some churches have it in the evening, i'm not sure. Anyway, that's a 1-2 hour block out of the day. You had Friday, Saturday, and Sunday afternoon-evening to see it. Church did not stop you from seeing Grindhouse. You might have missed the first showing of the day because of church, but not the entire weekends showings.

And that's what it's getting in Dec.

Fact: This thread is dumb and going nowhere quickly. Actually, it's already there.

There is at least one mistake here: I believe Death Proof was always intended to play at Cannes. It was sort of a "We'll probably do this" before it opened and bombed, but afterwards it got a lot bigger push. In any case, Tarantino didn't push it because of the box office failure.

And I still believe that both Quentin and Robert intended the full two-part experience to be theatrical only, while the DVD release was intended to be separate, since this is how actual grindhouse double features work.

isn't there already a thread or two or three about "Grindhouse"?

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=508698
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=505418
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=500500
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=496967
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=424256
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=497358

weird.

Actually, Scott, you probably still missed a few threads!

when's R5 gonna friggin hit the net !