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Old 10-24-12 | 06:34 AM
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I didn't know he even had a name in there. I know who he was but when I read Orc. I just though.. regular ole Orc.
The first I heard of his name was when the toys came out. Almost positive his name is never mentioned in the films, and I don't recall if it's in the credits or not.
Old 10-24-12 | 08:36 AM
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Bleh. That's what I get for attempting nerdy talk.

Old 10-24-12 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bunkaroo
The first I heard of his name was when the toys came out. Almost positive his name is never mentioned in the films, and I don't recall if it's in the credits or not.
Yes I don't think the name Lurtz was mentioned in the film. The only Urak-hai who was mentioned by name was Lowenstein.
Old 10-24-12 | 09:09 AM
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Here's some non-orc news:

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/10/24/the-hobbit-dolby/

Immersive Dolby sound system to add dimension to 'The Hobbit'

Middle-earth will sound more realistic in The Hobbit.

Dolby Laboratories Inc. and director Peter Jackson’s Park Road Post Production announced Wednesday that The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey will be mixed and released in Dolby Atmos, the company’s immersive new sound system that features two extra arrays of overhead speakers and the ability to direct sounds to individual speakers inside movie theaters.

“(Jackson) felt it was going to make a big difference in how he tells stories,” said Stuart Bowling, Dolby’s senior technical marketing manager. “He doesn’t want people to just go and observe his movies. He wants you to feel like you’re part of the experience of the stories that’s he’s trying to tell on the screen and allow you to be part of Middle-earth.”

The director of the Oscar-winning The Lord of the Rings films adapted J.R.R. Tolkien’s tale of Bilbo Baggins, set in the fictional realm of Middle-earth 60 years before The Lord of the Rings. Besides the standard 2-D format, Warner Bros. Pictures and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Pictures are releasing the series in high-frame-rate 3-D, IMAX and other 3-D formats.

Bowling said Dolby’s goal is to have the Atmos platform installed in 80 to 100 theaters in time for The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, which is scheduled to premiere on Dec. 14.
The second and third films, The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug and The Hobbit: There and Back Again, are set for release Dec. 13, 2013, and July 18, 2014.

Other movies slated to be released in the Atmos format include Fox’s Chasing Mavericks and Life of Pi. Disney-Pixar’s Brave was the first film to debut with the audio format earlier this year.

Bowling said the company expects more than 15 films to be released in Atmos next year and hoped to have the system in 1,000 theaters by the end of next year.

“Dolby Atmos is fantastic from a sound quality position,” said John Neill, head of sound at Park Road Post Production. “We can now hear full range surround speakers, meaning that when we pan from the front to surround, the sound does not change in quality. The overhead speakers give us the opportunity to place the theater patron really in the location.”

Jackson shot The Hobbit in 3-D and at 48 frames a second, twice the speed that’s been the standard since the 1920s. He received a mixed reception for high-frame-rate preview footage of The Hobbit at the Cinema Con theater owner’s convention last year. Some thought the images were too clear and realistic, taking away from the magic of the film medium.
Old 10-24-12 | 10:01 AM
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Re: The Hobbit

Originally Posted by JumpCutz
Yes I don't think the name Lurtz was mentioned in the film. The only Urak-hai who was mentioned by name was Lowenstein.
I seem to recall from either the DVD supplements or just chatter from back in the day that Jackson named that particular Uruk-hai simply because he needed a way to create narrative focus on a bad guy, instead of just the faceless horde of uglies.

It seemed to have worked on me at least, whenever I re-watch FOTR, I always know in my head, "that's Lurtz, kind of a de-facto leader of that search and snatch team of Uruk-hai".
Old 10-24-12 | 10:12 AM
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Yeah, Lurtz is never named in the film. There was a big controversy surrounding his inclusion before FOTR was released, with much hand-wringing from book purists. Turned out it wasn't that big of a deal. Lawrence Makoare, who played him, also played the Witch-King and Gothmog (aka "Elephant-man orc") in ROTK, and he's a pretty awesome dude who hung out quite a bit with my group during the ROTK Oscar party madness and even went bowling with us one night. He had some great stories, especially about the makeup process.

Anyway...the running time of the first movie has been revealed:
“It’s looking like it’s going to be about ten minutes shorter than Fellowship was," explains Jackson. "So it’s going to be officially our shortest Middle-earth yet. I mean, Fellowship was just under three hours and this is about 2 hours 40 minutes at the moment.”
Old 10-24-12 | 10:44 AM
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Anyway...the running time of the first movie has been revealed:
That's pretty much exactly what I figured, since my local (film based) IMAX told me there would be no intermission when I asked, and 2 hours 40 mins is about the max they can fit on a platter.
Old 10-24-12 | 11:23 AM
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Here's some non-orc news:

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/10/24/the-hobbit-dolby/

Immersive Dolby sound system to add dimension to 'The Hobbit'
So basically, the ideal viewing experience (in terms of seeing it the way the director intends) would be to see this in a theater capable of 3D at 48fps, and with Atmos sound. I wonder how many theaters will have that combo.
Old 10-24-12 | 11:49 AM
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Yeah, not holding my breath this will happen anywhere in town for me. I'm mildly interested in the way this sound will actually work, it just sounds too gimmicky. Same goes for 48fps.
Old 10-24-12 | 11:50 AM
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Wow, what to eat after I see the midnight premiere?!

Old 10-24-12 | 11:54 AM
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Hobbit Slam!
Old 10-24-12 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by trespoochies
Yeah, not holding my breath this will happen anywhere in town for me. I'm mildly interested in the way this sound will actually work, it just sounds too gimmicky. Same goes for 48fps.
Dolby Atmos has already been deployed in some theaters, and Pixar's Brave screened using the sound format on those screens. There's a separate thread discussing the sound format:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/...nd-system.html

Originally Posted by CharlieK
Wow, what to eat after I see the midnight premiere?!
The Pumpking Patch pancakes sound interesting (I'm assuming it's just pumpkin pie flavored pancakes). I'm surprised they're not advertising the concept of second breakfast.
Old 10-24-12 | 12:03 PM
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So basically, the ideal viewing experience (in terms of seeing it the way the director intends) would be to see this in a theater capable of 3D at 48fps, and with Atmos sound. I wonder how many theaters will have that combo.
word is that the Bow Tie Reston theater will be Atmos, 48fps and 3D -

Dolby's 7.1 webpage temporarily had 'The Hobbit' listed as being released in 7.1, but it's no longer there ...

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Old 10-24-12 | 12:05 PM
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Hopefully more the ArcLight Cinemas in my area begin installing Atmos. I think the Sherman Oaks location is the only one that has Atmos and it's probably just one or two screens.
Old 10-24-12 | 12:31 PM
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Wow, what to eat after I see the midnight premiere?!

Old 10-24-12 | 12:36 PM
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^ now which number breakfast (meal of the day) is that again?
Old 10-24-12 | 01:39 PM
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^ now which number breakfast (meal of the day) is that again?
That's clearly second breakfast. But where are the tomatoes?
Old 10-24-12 | 02:10 PM
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2' 40", plus the extended versions on Blu/DVD.

I was *almost* kinda hoping we wouldn't actually have extended editions with the addition of the third film, but I suppose there will be little "book moments" that don't have to be in the theatrical, but will play better at home.
Old 10-24-12 | 02:46 PM
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2' 40", plus the extended versions on Blu/DVD.

I was *almost* kinda hoping we wouldn't actually have extended editions with the addition of the third film, but I suppose there will be little "book moments" that don't have to be in the theatrical, but will play better at home.
I could see the EEs not extending as much. The LOTR EEs added a minimum of 30 mins to the films, for The Hobbit the EEs may only add 15-20 mins of footage.
Old 10-24-12 | 03:04 PM
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It all seems incredibly dense to me. I liked a lot of the scenes added in the extended editions of the LOTR films but ultimately felt that they put too much back in. Same deal with King Kong, Jackson needs somebody telling him to keep things tighter.
Old 10-24-12 | 03:23 PM
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I believe Jackson has stated that the theatrical versions of LOTR are his preferred cuts, and that the extended versions are for the fans.
Old 11-05-12 | 10:17 AM
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91 Cinemas Where You’ll Be Able To See The Hobbit At 48fps

Ahead of US pre-sales starting on Wednesday, the first cinema chain to announce their screenings of The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey in its native 48fps format are Regal. There’s a fair number of locations – not as many as I’d hoped, more than I’d feared. Let’s just call it “a start” and see what the other chains can offer.

So, below is Regal’s list of 91 locations where the film is going to be showing in HFR 3D – the branded name for higher frame rates in stereo. Below that is their FAQ sheet on the new format, as posted to their website.

I’m still awaiting confirmation of where the film will be playing at 48fps in the UK. On the upside, those in the UK looking to make a common-or-garden booking can do so at several venues.

Tikahntnu Stadium 16 IMAX & RPX, Anchorage, AK
McCain Mall Stadium 12 & RPX, North Little Rock, AR
Alhambra Renaissance Stadium 14 & IMAX, Alhambra, CA
Aliso Viejo Stadium 20 & IMAX, Aliso Viejo, CA
Bakersfield Stadium 14, Bakersfield, CA
Brea Stadium East 12, Brea, CA
Hacienda Crossings Stadium 20 & IMAX, Dublin, CA
Parkway Plaza Stadium 18 & IMAX, El Cajon, CA
Fairfield Stadium 16 & IMAX, Fairfield, CA
Foothill Towne Center Stadium 22, Foothill Ranch, CA
Fresno Stadoum 22 & IMAX, Fresno, CA
Irvine Spectrum 21 IMAX & RPX, Irvine CA
Long Beach Stadium 26 & IMAX, Long Beach, CA
LA Live Stadium 14, Los Angles, CA
Ontario Palace Stadium 22 & IMAX, Ontario, CA
Laguna Village 12, Sacramento, CA
Natomas MArketplace Stadium 16, Sacramento, CA
San Bernardino Stadium 14 & RPX, San Bernardino, CA
Horton Plaza 14, San Diego, CA
Mira Mesa Stadium 18 & RPX, San Diego, CA
San Marcos Stadium 18, San MArcos, CA
Valencia Stadium 12 & IMAX, Santa Clarita, CA
Southgate Stadium 20 & IMAX, South Gate, CA
Temecula Stadium 15 & IMAX, Temecula, CA
West Covina Stadium 18, West Covina, CA
Colorado Center Stadium 9 & IMAX, Denver, CO
Continental Stadium 10 & RPX, Denver, Co
Gallery Place Stadium 14, Washington, DC
Peoples Plaza Stadium 17, Newark, DE
Brandywine Town Center 16, Wilmington, DE
Belltower Stadium 20, FT Myers, FL
Gainesville Cinema Stadium 14, Gainesville, FL
The Loop Stadium 16 & RPX, Kissimmee, FL
Kendall Village Stadium 16 & RPX, Miami, FL
South Beach Stadium 18, Miami Beach, FL
Waterford Lakes Stadium 20 & IMAX, Orlando, FL
Park Palace Stadium 16 & RPX, Pinellas Park, FL
Royal Palm Beach Stadium 18 & RPX, Royal Palm Beach, FL
Sawgrass Stadium 23 & IMAX, Sunrise, FL
Atlantic Station Stadium 16 & IMAX, ATlanta, GA
Augsta Exchange Stadium 20 & IMAX, Augsta, GA
Mall of Georgia Stadium 20 & IMAX, Buford, GA
Hollywood Stadium 24 @ North I-85, Chamblee, GA
Town Center Stadium 16 & RPX, Kennesaw, GA
Dole Cannery Stadium 18 IMAX & RPX, Honolulu, HI
Fenway Stadium 13 & RPX, Boston, MA
Independence Mall 14, Kingston, MA
Westview STadium 16 & IMAX, Fredrick, MD
Salisbury Stadium 16 & RPX, Salisbury, MD
Majestic Stadium 20 & IMAX, Silver Spring, MD
Biltmore Grande Stadium 15 & RPX, Asheville, NC
Stonecrest at Piper Glen Stadium 22, Charlotte, NC
Mayfaire Stadium 16 & IMAX, Wilmington, NC
Fox Run Stadium 15 & RPX, Newington, NH
Red Rock Stadium 16 & IMAX, Las Vegas, NV
Colonie Center Stadium 13, Albany, NY
Crossgates Stadium 18 & IMAX, Albany, NY
Court Street Stadium 12 & RPX, Brooklyn, NY
Sheepshead Bay Stadium 14 & IMAX, Brooklyn, NY
Clifton Park Stadium 19 & RPX, Clifton Park, NY
Deer Park Stadium 16 & IMAX, Deer Park, NY
Atlas Park Stadium 8, Glendale, NY
Kaufman Astoria Stadium 14, Long Island City, NY
New Roc Stadium 18 & IMAX, New Rochelle, NY
E-Walk Stadium 13 & RPX, New York, NY
Staten Island Stadium 16 & RPX, Staten Island, NY
Westbury Stadium 12 & IMAX, Westbury, NY
Fairfield Commons Stadium 20, Beavercreek, OH
Bridgeport Village Stadium 18 & IMAX, Tigard, OR
King of Prussia Stadium 16 & IMAX, King of Prussia, PA
Riverview Plaza Stadium 17, Philadelphia, PA
Warrington Crossing Stadium 22 & IMAX, Warrington, PA
Hollywood Stadium 20 & RPX, Green Ville, SC
Charles Towne Square Stadium 18, North Charleston, SC
Pinnacle Stadium 18 & IMAX, Knoxville, TN
Amarillo Star Stadium 14 & IMAX, Amarillo, TX
Gateway Stadium 16 & IMAX, Austin, TX
Greenway Grand Palace Stadium 24 & RPX, Houston, TX
Houston Marq’e Stadium 23 & IMAX, Houston, TX
Live Oak Stadium 18 & RPX, Live Oak, TX
Alamo Quarry Stadium 16, San Antonio, TX
Cielo Vista Stadium 18 & RPX, San Antonio, TX
Huebner Oaks Stadium 14 & RPX, San Antonio, TX
Potomac Yard Stadium 16, Alexandria, VA
Kingstowne Stadium 16, Alexandria, VA
Manassas Stadium 14 & IMAX, Manassas, VA
Valley View Grande Stadium 16, Roanoke, VA
Everett Stadium 16 & RPX, Everett, WA
Lakewood Stadium 15 & RPX, Lakewood, WA
The Landing Stadium 14 & RPX, Renton WA
Old 11-05-12 | 10:20 AM
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Nowhere within hours of me
Old 11-05-12 | 10:21 AM
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No Regal chain here.
Old 11-05-12 | 10:35 AM
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Damn, I've gone to West Palm Beach for Christmas for years, but this year my family decided to go to some island resort in the middle of nowhere. Screw that, I want to see The Hobbit.


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