The Hobbit
09-12-06, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mndtrp
I would very much like to see The Hobbit. I think it would have a lot of appeal, simply for the dragon.
Bilbo did mention a one liner about the dragon during his birthday party.
I also hope it happens, it would be great to see the hobbit on the screen.
09-12-06, 07:37 AM
#252
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Originally Posted by masbrad
Just answring your firs tquestion here. In the book the Hobbit ends and the Fellowship begins 60 years later. However Bilbo leaves at his birthday and turns the ring over to Gandalf who leaves the ring with Frodo and goes out to research the origins of the ring. So the start of Frodos journey takes place 17 additional years later. so the time from Bilbos first journey in the Hobbit and Frodos first journey in Fellowship is roughly 77 years. In the movie you dont get the sense of that much time passing from when Bilbo leaves for Rivendell and Frodo sets out on his journey.
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09-13-06, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
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09-13-06, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay G.
I don't know about the books, but in the context of the film, we see Bilbo when he finds the ring, which occurs in The Hobbit. Ian's look doesn't change between that scene and his birthday party, so obviously he hasn't "aged a day" since the events of The Hobbit.
09-13-06, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Breakfast with Girls
It could go either way, but I suspect the studio (and possibly Jackson) will want a younger Bilbo in the role.
09-13-06, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay G.
I don't know, it'd be pretty odd to have a different Bilbo but the same Gandalf and Elrond from LOTR. They may want to try and keep Ian Holm for continuity, since they're trying to tie this in with the LOTR films for obvious reasons.
Also, one thing I always wondered about. When Bilbo finds the ring in Gollum's gave, his hair looks brown to me. But when Gandalf sees him he says "you haven't aged a day." Just how long was Bilbo's trip supposed to be? Or am I reading too much into it?
09-13-06, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Anubis2005X
It didn't seem to hurt the Harry Potter franchise at all.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchi...arrypotter.htm
By the way, I know that Ian Holm is far from dead, but I remember him not being too happy with having his face taped up.
Also, one thing I always wondered about. When Bilbo finds the ring in Gollum's cave, his hair looks brown to me. But when Gandalf sees him he says "you haven't aged a day." Just how long was Bilbo's trip supposed to be? Or am I reading too much into it?
10-26-06, 02:49 AM
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Two Hobbit films planned??
Two Hobbit Films Planned
MGM touts twice the LOTR prequel action.
by IGN Staff
October 25, 2006 - MGM and New Line Cinema are moving ever closer to making J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit a big-screen reality. And now it seems that the studios may be planning not one, but two films based on the 1937 fantasy novel.
MGM chief operating officer Rick Sands revealed the plans this past weekend during a trade show in Orlando, Florida, according to the Hollywood Reporter.
The Hobbit follows Bilbo Baggins on an adventure with a band of dwarves and the wizard Gandalf as they attempt to reclaim the dwarves' stolen treasure and restore their kingdom
This is the second time in the past month that Sands has publicly commented on the project. A few weeks ago, he issued a statement in response to a fan petition urging MGM and New Line to pursue Lord of the Rings helmer Peter Jackson as the director of The Hobbit.
"Peter Jackson's phenomenal success with The Lord of the Rings trilogy makes him the first and most ideal choice for directing The Hobbit. MGM would be thrilled to collaborate with the Academy Award-winning director on this MGM New Line Cinema production," Sands said.
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MGM touts twice the LOTR prequel action.
by IGN Staff
October 25, 2006 - MGM and New Line Cinema are moving ever closer to making J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit a big-screen reality. And now it seems that the studios may be planning not one, but two films based on the 1937 fantasy novel.
MGM chief operating officer Rick Sands revealed the plans this past weekend during a trade show in Orlando, Florida, according to the Hollywood Reporter.
The Hobbit follows Bilbo Baggins on an adventure with a band of dwarves and the wizard Gandalf as they attempt to reclaim the dwarves' stolen treasure and restore their kingdom
This is the second time in the past month that Sands has publicly commented on the project. A few weeks ago, he issued a statement in response to a fan petition urging MGM and New Line to pursue Lord of the Rings helmer Peter Jackson as the director of The Hobbit.
"Peter Jackson's phenomenal success with The Lord of the Rings trilogy makes him the first and most ideal choice for directing The Hobbit. MGM would be thrilled to collaborate with the Academy Award-winning director on this MGM New Line Cinema production," Sands said.
Keep your browser set to IGN for more Hobbit updates.
10-26-06, 06:30 AM
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Don't do it P. Jackson! Just look at what Mr. Lucas did to the Star Wars Saga, cause sometimes less is more.
The Lord of the Rings Trilogy is one of those movie series where everything clicked, and doesn't need anymore movies, just like SW-OT movies.
For all the LOTR fans who are clamoring for The Hobbit, on paper it always sound cool to think of more movies of your favorite series on the big screen, but I guarantee it will be a letdown in the end, cause the hype turned out to be the best thing of the PT movies.
But I do really respect P. Jackson, so I hope i am wrong.
The Lord of the Rings Trilogy is one of those movie series where everything clicked, and doesn't need anymore movies, just like SW-OT movies.
For all the LOTR fans who are clamoring for The Hobbit, on paper it always sound cool to think of more movies of your favorite series on the big screen, but I guarantee it will be a letdown in the end, cause the hype turned out to be the best thing of the PT movies.
But I do really respect P. Jackson, so I hope i am wrong.
10-26-06, 06:48 AM
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Here we go again. You can't compare The Hobbit to the PT of Star Wars. Here's one reason: as a story, The Hobbit existed before LOTR. It isn't a prequel. The narrative of The Hobbit stands on its own and isn't trying to be coherent and match up with something that has existed for 20 years and is deeply cherished by those going to see it.
Second, I don't think it is fair to compare Peter Jackson to George Lucas in this case. Not yet at least.
The Hobbit will work well.
Second, I don't think it is fair to compare Peter Jackson to George Lucas in this case. Not yet at least.
The Hobbit will work well.
10-26-06, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pinata242
Here we go again. You can't compare The Hobbit to the PT of Star Wars. Here's one reason: as a story, The Hobbit existed before LOTR. It isn't a prequel. The narrative of The Hobbit stands on its own and isn't trying to be coherent and match up with something that has existed for 20 years and is deeply cherished by those going to see it.
Second, I don't think it is fair to compare Peter Jackson to George Lucas in this case. Not yet at least.
The Hobbit will work well.
Second, I don't think it is fair to compare Peter Jackson to George Lucas in this case. Not yet at least.
The Hobbit will work well.
I agree that it doesn't have to jive with LOTR, and the Hobbit can be its own entity, but I just think that the expectations for these movies sometimes are just too hard to meet.
Just look at King Kong, Jackson strung it out to 3 hours, when the original was half that time. I think Jackson is falling into the same trap as Lucas cause they kind of forget what made the early successes great, and deviate too much because they get too out of touch.
10-26-06, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by coli
Listen I am diehard SW fan, but I will readily admit that Jackson is a much better director then Lucas. But already they are making The Hobbit in two films now? The Hobbit can be made in one movie, but that tells me they are already thinking of the money, cause two of everything, DVD & Theater, etc is makes more money then one.
I agree that it doesn't have to jive with LOTR, and the Hobbit can be its own entity, but I just think that the expectations for these movies sometimes are just too hard to meet.
Just look at King Kong, Jackson strung it out to 3 hours, when the original was half that time. I think Jackson is falling into the same trap as Lucas cause they kind of forget what made the early successes great, and deviate too much because they get too out of touch.
I agree that it doesn't have to jive with LOTR, and the Hobbit can be its own entity, but I just think that the expectations for these movies sometimes are just too hard to meet.
Just look at King Kong, Jackson strung it out to 3 hours, when the original was half that time. I think Jackson is falling into the same trap as Lucas cause they kind of forget what made the early successes great, and deviate too much because they get too out of touch.
10-26-06, 07:44 AM
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I remember reading that one plan for "The Hobbit" included expanding certain parts of the story to bring it in closer to the LOTR trilogy.
Some of the expansions would probably include things like bringing in Saruman and Galadriel for White Council scenes involving the "necromancer." And a bigger role for Elrond, and maybe even Arwen and a young Aragorn. It also wouldn't surprise me if they threw in some more history or flashbacks to the older ages if they're looking at two films.
I'd love to see Smaug of the bigscreen, yo.
Some of the expansions would probably include things like bringing in Saruman and Galadriel for White Council scenes involving the "necromancer." And a bigger role for Elrond, and maybe even Arwen and a young Aragorn. It also wouldn't surprise me if they threw in some more history or flashbacks to the older ages if they're looking at two films.
I'd love to see Smaug of the bigscreen, yo.
10-26-06, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by pinata242
I think you're assuming Jackson is the one making this decision entirely. Let's not forget there are 2 movie studios involved that have already seen what kind of money LOTR generated.
10-26-06, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Molotov
It doesn't even sounds like he's making the decision at all.
http://www.aintitcool.com/?q=node/30085
"I was reading that this morning on the net. It's a rather strange thing to wake to. I'm up for it, but somebody should phone me because I'm getting a bit booked out at the moment!"
"We think the two film idea is really smart. One of the problems with The Hobbit is that it is a fairly simple kids story, and doesn't really feel like The Lord of the Rings. Tonally I mean. It's always may be a little worried, but with two films that kinda gets easier. It allows for more complexity. At that implied stuff with Gandalf and the White Council and the return of Sauron could be fully explored."
10-26-06, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GuessWho
You're right... Lucas created his stories.
10-26-06, 12:32 PM
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I'd love to see it happen as two movies, with more plot put in to better tie it to the LOTR trilogy.
Specifically, I'd like to see them stick to the basic story, but add in whatever they can to make it match the tone, and just fit better in general, with the movie trilogy.
Specifically, I'd like to see them stick to the basic story, but add in whatever they can to make it match the tone, and just fit better in general, with the movie trilogy.