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Old 07-17-07, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wilky61
I also feel that Fight Club is vastly overrated by the general populace because I think the average person loves this movie for all the wrong reasons and I think the average person just gets caught up with the OMG PLOT TWIST or the terrorism crap at the end of the movie and entirely misses the very clever social satire on contemporary masculine and corporate America presented within the movie's first hour. Once again, don't get me wrong. I like this movie, I like it a lot in fact. But every time I see it listed at the very top of somebody's top 20 list, I wince and wonder if they too like it for all the wrong reasons.
Not to offend, but this comes across as a little pretentious. People like it for all the wrong reasons?

I like Fight Club a lot, in fact it might very well be in my list of top 20 (if I ever made one), what gives someone the right to tell me the reasons I like the movie are right or wrong?
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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
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Overrated - Gladiator
Underrated - Kingdom of Heaven
Old 07-17-07, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by wendersfan
Overrated - Aliens
Underrated - Alien<sup>3</sup>
i have to agree with you on this one.
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Originally Posted by wendersfan
Overrated - Aliens
Underrated - Alien<sup>3</sup>
I agree as well.
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This kinda thread begs the question: who is doing the rating? Because no one on this forum is saying Independence Day is a great movie no critics either. However, movies like The Big Lebowski are only rated highly by people on internet forums.
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This might be fun... One thing: in no way am I implying that the "underrated" movie is better than the "overrated" movie, just that the movies are not entirely deserving of their respective reputations

First, the obvious: James Cameron
Overrated: Titanic
Underrated: The Abyss

Tim Burton:
Overrated: Nightmare Before Christmas
Underrated: Corpse Bride

Soderburgh:
Overrated: Traffic
Underrated: The Limey

Wes Anderson:
Overrated: The Royal Tenenbaums
Underrated: The Life Aquatic

Speilberg:
Overrated: Saving Private Ryan (although I like it, it's not the be-all-end-all of WW2 movies that people make it out to be)
Underrated: War of the Worlds (except for the ending)

Peter Weir:
Overrated: Dead Poets Society
Underrated: Master and Commander

Oliver Stone:
Overrated: Wall Street
Underrated: The Doors (just IMO on this one)

Kubrick:
Overrated: The Shining
Underrated: Paths of Glory

Michael Mann:
Overrated: Heat
Underrated: Miami Vice (yeah, I think so)

Scorcese:
Overrated: The Last Waltz (the performers look so exhusted and wasted that it seems more like a condemnation of the 60s than a celebration)
Underrated: Casino

Werner Herzog:
Overrated: Fitzcarraldo
Underrated: Nosferatu the Vampyre

Robert Altman:
Overrated: The Player
Underrated: Gosford Park

Walt Disney:
Overrated: Bambi
Underrated: Sleeping Beauty

Mel Brooks:
Overrated: The Producers
Underrated: Silent Movie

Coppola:
Overrated: Apocalypse Now Redux (the original is much better)
Underrated: Bram Stoker's Dracula (Keanu excepted) (I guess I like Dracula movies)
Old 07-17-07, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wendersfan
Overrated - Aliens
Underrated - Alien<sup>3</sup>
GIGANTIC, OVERWHELMING disagreement.
Old 07-17-07, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Hiro11
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Overrated: Traffic
Underrated: The Limey
Old 07-17-07, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Hiro11
This might be fun... One thing: in no way am I implying that the "underrated" movie is better than the "overrated" movie, just that the movies are not entirely deserving of their respective reputations

First, the obvious: James Cameron
Overrated: Titanic
Underrated: The Abyss
This was the first one I thought of, but I didn't post it because I figured The Abyss wasn't really "underrated"

Wes Anderson
Overrated: The Royal Tenenbaums
Underrated: The Life Aquatic
Agreed, though I'd replace The Royal Tenenbaums with Rushmore.


Kubrick:
Overrated: The Shining
Underrated: Paths of Glory
I grew up thinking The Shining was severely overrated but the older I get and the more I see it, the more I realize it isn't overrated (just my opinion of course). Paths of Glory is an exceptional film BTW.

Coppola:
Overrated: Apocalypse Now Redux (the original is much better)
Underrated: Bram Stoker's Dracula (Keanu excepted) (I guess I like Dracula movies)
Agreed. Redux is far inferior to the original. I like Keanu but he nearly ruined Dracula.
Old 07-17-07, 06:16 PM
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Wachowski Bros

(over) Matrix
(under) Bound

Takashi Miike

(over) Ichii the Killer
(under) Negotiator

Robert Rodriquez

(over) Sin City
(under) El Mariachi

and I wholeheartedly agree with the Spielberg reference earlier:

(over) Schindler's List
(under) Munich - phenomenal film
Old 07-17-07, 11:30 PM
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Overrated: The Departed

Underrated: Casino
Old 07-17-07, 11:36 PM
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Tarantino:

Overrated: Kill Bill Vol. 2, Jackie Brown
Underrated: Death Proof

John Lasseter:

Overrated: Toy Story
Underrated: Cars

Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu:

Overrated: Amores Perros
Underrated: 21 Grams

Coppola:

Overrated: Apocalypse Now
Underrated: The Godfather, Part III

Speilberg:

Overrated: E.T.
Underrated: Munich

Wachowski Bros:

Overrated to the 10^1000th degree: V for Vendetta (even though they only wrote it)
Underrate: The Matrix Reloaded

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Old 07-18-07, 09:49 AM
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Takashi Miike

(over) Ichii the Killer
(under) Negotiator
my favourtie Miike underrated movie is 'Zebraman'
Old 07-18-07, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
I grew up thinking The Shining was severely overrated but the older I get and the more I see it, the more I realize it isn't overrated

Even Shelley Duvall's painful acting can't kill this film (but almost).

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Old 07-18-07, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Hiro11

Coppola:
Overrated: Apocalypse Now Redux (the original is much better)
Underrated: Bram Stoker's Dracula (Keanu excepted) (I guess I like Dracula movies)
I've heard/seen mostly bad things about Redux, so not really sure that I would consider it Overrated.
Old 07-18-07, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wilky61
I also feel that Fight Club is vastly overrated by the general populace because I think the average person loves this movie for all the wrong reasons and I think the average person just gets caught up with the OMG PLOT TWIST or the terrorism crap at the end of the movie and entirely misses the very clever social satire on contemporary masculine and corporate America presented within the movie's first hour. Once again, don't get me wrong. I like this movie, I like it a lot in fact. But every time I see it listed at the very top of somebody's top 20 list, I wince and wonder if they too like it for all the wrong reasons.



Originally Posted by DeputyDave
Not to offend, but this comes across as a little pretentious. People like it for all the wrong reasons?

I like Fight Club a lot, in fact it might very well be in my list of top 20 (if I ever made one), what gives someone the right to tell me the reasons I like the movie are right or wrong?
A little pretentious? That is pretentious, people that make statements like that like to think they are "in the know" about something.

Agree theres no right for someone to tell you the reasons you like a movie are right or wrong. Just like in the Lost thread someone told me I was watching the series for all the wrong reasons, bull, there is no wrong reason to watch a TV show.

That said I would agree with this as well

Soderburgh:
Overrated: Traffic
Underrated: The Limey
Old 07-18-07, 12:25 PM
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Two different genres, but the first two movies that came to mind....

Overrated: The Wedding Crashers

Underrated: Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Old 07-18-07, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 7Keys
I'm not paying attention to the OP's rules, that would require too much thought.
Apparently so did many posters in this thread.

Farrelly Brothers

Overrated: There's Something About Mary
Underrated: Kingpin

Granted these aren't high works of art, but figured I'd throw it out there. I don't hate There's Something About Mary, but I'm not wowed by it either, thinking its merely a decent comedy. Somehow it became one of those movies that just takes off at the box office. Kingpin, on the other hand, I find to be hilarious and a really great comedy. And yet it didn't do nearly the business of the Farrelly's movies released right before it (Dumb & Dumber) or after it (There's Something About Mary).
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Originally Posted by Jericho
Apparently so did many posters in this thread.
I know I did. Sorry.....
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Originally Posted by Giles
my favourtie Miike underrated movie is 'Zebraman'
Sadly, I still haven't seen this. Then again, at a production rate of 3 to 5 films per year, he makes it difficult to keep up ....
Old 07-18-07, 06:58 PM
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Overrated: DVD Talk members' understanding of the terms "overrated" and "underrated".

Underrated: Sticking to the rules set by the OP.
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Originally Posted by Jericho
Apparently so did many posters in this thread.
I only did so after others...I'm a follower.

As far as Independence Day goes...I thought the movie was considered a blockbuster hit.
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Originally Posted by tbwmp88
Overrated: The Departed

Underrated: Casino
I have to disagree

Overrated: Casino

Underrated: Mean Streets
Old 07-18-07, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 7Keys

As far as Independence Day goes...I thought the movie was considered a blockbuster hit.

Huh!? It was a blockbuster. But is it highly rated by movie goers and critics? For the most part, no.
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Originally Posted by Numanoid
Underrated: Sticking to the rules set by the OP.
If anyone did that there would be nothing on DVDTalk to read!!


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