I know it's a flimsy movie and it's pure cheese, but I love it so. This after avoiding the movie all summer. Finally gave in after a friend told me I had to see it.

We're just lucky that a Kiss Players sidegag wasn't worked into the movie somehow. Though I do want that Convoy X Melissa figure set. God, help me, but I do. XD

I'm just glad you wasted more time finding all of that than I did caring about this movie.

Seriously, I'm not happy with the changes they made for no reason, but I was willing to give the movie a shot. The commercials made it look pretty cool.

What I got was a terribly written movie that is 20 minutes too long with a severe lack of giant robots. I walked out thinking "well, that was a big waste of money" and never gave it another thought.

As for the X-men, I had no problems with the uniforms. Mostly because they actually made good movies too.

Transformers made a ton of unneccesary changes to the source material AND fucked up everything but the special effects. :shrug:

So don't worry, I never lost any sleep before and haven't really given a shit since. It's a terrible movie, I'm not the only person who thinks so and I couldn't possibly care less what anyone thinks about my opinion.

Well said. I agree completely.

Says the guy who has walked nose-first into every argument in a Chuck-Wepnerian display of massochistic, stubborn bitterness. -wink-


Gracias, hermano. :rock2:


-Doc

I consider myself a Transformers fan. I used to see the TV show, played with the toys, got the animated movie on DVD.

I don't recall Optimus Prime being a Mack or a Peterbilt or a Volvo and I don't even remember Bumblebee being a VW.

I still liked the movie.

:shrug:

:wave: I was here, I just didn't keep coming back. I was more like Bumblebee to your Optimus Prime. :lol:

What I do find funny is that this DVDtalk Review has all the same compaints Draven and I've had with the film but still recommends it. It's almost reads like "this movie has A, B, C, D, E, & F things wrong with it. Oh and X, Y, & Z are also wrong with it .... oooh a shiny robot - FOUR STARS!" rotfl

I see it more like the girl with the annoying laugh. Sure, it's a bit grating, but she's funny, smart, has a slamming body and a winning smile. I'll continue dating her and let all of the good outweigh the annoying and bad... or maybe I'll just go onto DVDTALK and repeatedly bitch and whine about how my girlfriend has raped my childhood. -wink-


-Doc

Yeah, but what if she had a grating laugh, buck teeth, 9 toes, a cold sore, a lazy eye, smart as a bag of hammers and an unknown skin condition down south? Still willing to overlook the many flaws for the eye candy?

I've never once said anything about raping childhoods? I was hesitant at the designs, but I'll roll with it if the movie is compelling and there are actually some cool battles before the final 20 minutes...but that didn't happen.

That wasn't directed at you, MC, I just used your comment as a spring board to bust some balls.

Regarding the (at risk of being over-extended) metaphor, our opinions on what is wrong with the girl vary, is all. To me, she had an annoying laugh, moderate intelligence and an adorable overbite. To you, she was Titania, the herpes-crippled swamp-whore. One man's unbangable prostitute is another man's thrilling adventure, I suppose. :shrug:


-Doc

Especially if she pees on you and then says, "My bad."

Hey now, that's just good writing.

Lubricated, my friend. Lubricated.



I agree, as I said before, that part was piss poor. :rimshot:

It was Michael Bay throwing in his wierd humor that is extroadinarily hit-or-miss.

And bad writing? Come on, It was no more mindless than the majority of Star Wars movies. The plot was razor thin, you're absolutely right on that account, but I guess I just accept this flick as one of those instances where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

-Doc

I loved that Jazz was a break-dancin', Hip-Hop lovin' urban bad ass - it helped in the "keepin' it real" department. But like most human "urbans", he had to die in the end - more realism...

Fun movie but could have lived without the sexual stuff and yeah, how many times do they really need to say "shit?" Other than that, it was a fun movie.

I just watched this movie, and my thoughts:

Positives (not many):
+ Peter Cullen
+ CGI, in particular when they are transforming
+ Sound, I like the "transforming" sound

Negatives:
- The constant product placements. I've never been taken out of a movie more by ads than this one.
- Soundwave was annoying.
- Dialouge (Optimus Prime saying they learned English through the World Wide Web - give me a break)
- A Mountain Dew transformer
- Ebay
- The design of the robots. Some of them had no resemblance to their vehicle self.
- Storyline
- Too many human characters
- Lame sex jokes
- Shia annoyed me a little bit, but I think its mostly because of the dialouge.
- Too long, it dragged quite a bit
- Not enough of the robots.


This was the first Bay movie I've seen, so I didn't have any bias towards him going in.

Product placements are okay if they are done the right way, but in this movie it was way too intrusive.

Overall, pretty bad.

Soundwave was not in the movie.

Sorry, its the Decepticon spy bot - what's his name. I'm drawing a blank.

Anyway, I would have liked to seen more about the Transformers origin and their planet as opposed to a movie with Transformers.

But Optimus already explained this. The cube created them and they don't know much about the cube and or it's origin. He said that their world was peaceful then Megatron started a war.

Right, I know that. But I would have like to seen some kind of, gasp...story, instead of we were created by a cube and that's all we know.

Affectionately known as Jar Jar Binks.

Finally saw this, probably echoing a lot of people here, in that it looked cool, but something felt off.

I was mainly confused by a few things in the end of the movie, people were talking, so I am not sure if I missed a big plot point, but why did they take the cube to the city and then to the top of that building, and why did they think getting it into a helicopter would make it safe? And more nitpicky, why didn't an autobot just take the cube to the building and why did Megatron decide to destroy the building, causing Shia to fall, instead of just grabbing him?

I know, it's just a fun flick, but that whole sequence kind of threw me off.

I'm going to let you in on a phrase my friends and I use for just such an occasion.. it's more of a rule, really. We call it "The Last Boyscout."

In a movie like this, where style-over-substance is the rule of thumb and its sheer awesomeness makes up for the Hulk-like leaps of logic (and knowing going in that you weren't going to see Citizen Kane), certain things just have to be laughed off or ignored.

So when you find yourself or one of your friends forgetting this simple doctrine and asking a question such as, "Why would the G.I. Joe think sending Sam to take the cube onto a blackhawk was a good idea, being that he's already seen at least two Decepticons who can fly?", just simply respond with, "Last Boyscout" and all will be right with the world.

P.S. - it helps if you're stoned or if you've been drinking.


-Doc

Yeah, that's sort of what I thought. But I had been drinking and others were talking during the show, so I figured there was a chance that I missed something specific about the sequence. I guess "fighting in the city would be cool" is reason enough.

I've seen intelligent action movies that did not require the viewer to turn off their brain to make sense of things. There is no reason to expect less from "Transformers".

That's my biggest problem with the people that loved this movie. They seem to think it's ok that we not expect great effects AND a great script - like you can't have one without the other. I disagree with that - which might be why I haven't really enjoyed a Michael Bay movie since "The Rock", which didn't really require the viewer to turn off their brain outside of the original concept.

Certain movies, man. They work despite a script that would seem silly elsewhere. I still have a fondness for Independence Day and that movie is even less coherent than this. I'm sorry you can't get behind a Popcorn movie, Draven, and I'm sorry Optimus wasn't up there reading Thoreau. I just don't think everyone found it as stupid as you did.


-Doc