Yeah, that's the typical tired look of "cutting-edge" movies these days. Ergo, 1990.

I'm not sure anybody was wrong. It still managed to be a pretty darn entertaining movie, but a lot of people here (myself included) think the PG-13 rating hurt the film. Many of the complaints stem from the fact the 1. ADR was horrid because they trimmed down the cursing and 2. the main character's catch phrase was butchered. two things that would have brought it up to an "R" rating also would have made the movie better.

I do think people were wrong. Lots of people were saying that the movie would be awful and couldn't be saved. They weren't just saying "This might not be as good"

McClane should be in his early 50's (as is Bruce Willis).

Abe ,movies have been looking better on video than at the theaters since the 1990's when laserdiscs were around.

Laserdiscs were around quite a while before that.

Just got back from seeing this, and I must say this movie was a blast! I'm a huge die hard fan, and certainly had my reservations on this with the whole pg-13 ordeal. Yes, the ADR was some of the worst in recent memory. Yeah the action was way over the top compared to previous die hards, but even the older films had their over the top moments (firehose leap, ejector seat, dump truck surfing).

Besides that though this is easily my 2nd favorite of the 4 films (DH LFoDH, DHwaV, DH2), which is saying alot since I love the 3rd one. Bruce Willis was again fantastic as McClain, you can just tell the man loves this character.

Justin Long was pretty damn good as the sidekick, and I liked Olyphant's villian. It was nice to see a villian who you could almost tell he knew he was in deep shit with McClain coming after him.

The action scenes were over the top, but damn if they werent exciting as hell, great CG work. Lots of humor without coming off as too forced or cheezy.

Great action flick.

What movie series have you been watching?

Obviously not the Die Hard franchise since you're off on the age and cant even spell his name.

I don't know if I 100% agree with that. Video doesn't have that exact quality a projected films display. I'm probably going to go watch the movie again tonight (birthday today), and compare the PQ from last night. If I'm not satisfied with it this time around, I'll probably be sticking to my DLP, more than ever, when it comes to my movie viewing.

Movie still rocked. I thought Olyphant did an awesome job too.

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but who has a better man-purse? Jack Bauer, or Mac kid?

What shitty run-down theatres have you been going to?

I loved this movie so much, great, great stuff. I've been wanting to see a great action flick like that for a while, so I'm happy. Sure, I wish it had been rated R but I guess we can all get that on DVD or whatever. Heck, I'd consider going back to watch it again since I loved it so much. Also, when John McClane was explaining why he continues to do what he does, there's no one else to do it right now, one can't help but think about Bruce Willis himself saying that in response to why he's still doing an action flick like this. In my opinion, few do it as great as Bruce.

If you can't find something to enjoy about this one, then I'm not quite sure what else you want in a popcorn action flick.

Oh, ok. So, we're going to play the

YAH DON'T SPAYLE RAWGHT SO YER ARGUMENT DARE IS INVALID.

Fine. Since you started your second sentence as a partial, and forgot a little apostrophe thingie on "can't", I guess I can't take you seriously either.

Oh, and I actually like Bruce Willis. I just think this flick was not so great. The ending really was a disappointment for me.

Man the reasons some have for hating this film are some of the silliest I have ever read about any film.

Before I list them let me just say that I am 36 years old. I love DIE HARD. I saw it in the theaters way back when and it was the first date I went on with my wife (high school sweethearts). It is my fav. action film of all time and number 5 on my all time list.

I liked part 2 when I first saw it because it was Die Hard but I prety much think the film is crap now. Has Renny Harlin ever made a good film?????

I am always disappointed in Part 3. Every thime I watch it. I want to like it but it is really just a film about bombs blowing up. There is not much action. And while it is much better then 2 It feels the least Like A Die Hard film to me. Of course only Die Hard really fels like Die Hard.

I really enjoyed LFODH. I thought it was by far the best of the sequels. All is right in the world when John McClaine is killing bad guys!

1. John M does not smoke - OMG that has got to be number one. SO WHAT!!!! He is older and smarter and he did not smoke all that much in 3 if at all. I just watched three last night and I can't remember him taking a drag. Can anyone else. Sorry guys but I think Die Hard became PC well before LFODH. Add to this that some seem to be complaing that he is not drinking. WELL he only Drinks in 3. one and two he does not touch a drop.

2. This did not feel like a Die Hard movie. Well only Die Hard feels like Die Hard. Die Hard 2 is a joke of a film with some of the worst direcing, charaters and casting of any action film. It was not that good when I first saw it and it does not hold up at all today. Die Hard 3 is the one that feels the least like a Die Hard film. It tries to be a partner film and John never realy gets any one on one action with the Bad guys. He spends all his time running around looking for bombs. It was better then Die Hard 2 but no where near 1. LFODH is not as good as one either. How can anything be as good as the greatest action film ever? But as it stands it is by far the second best in the series.

3. The Opening and ending credits are not the same as the other three films. YAWNNNNNN! whow some people are just reaching for reasons to hate this film and would not have liked it even if it ended up being the greatest film ever.

4. PG-13 - Oh let it go. If the film was worse then Die Hard 2 and 3 I would agree with you but it was far better then both.

5. It's not John M. - Hell it isnt. When the appartment is being blown to hell and he is ducking bullets he is screaming for his life. When He is getting ready to blow up the Helicopter he is taking and bitching to himself just as he always does before he does something crazy. Only after he finds out they have his daughter does he become he MAN ON A MISSION. And for those of you who have kids, well you know, once they are involved everything changes.

6. The Action is over the top - Damn straight. But yet done much better then 2 and 3 because a least it looked real. (falling from the brige in 3, and the car making the big jump from the bridge when it's chasing the trucks. ejecting from the exploding plane in 2). I would really have no problem with people complaing about the over the top action if the would say that the did not like Die Hard 2 and 3. But since there has not been any of that it is yet another dumb argument.

7. I think I read some complaints about the music and there being no Die Hard theme. Well there is a little bit of Die Hard music in that film. But None of the Die hard films really had a stand out "Theme" and thus it was not really missed in this film. In fact I think it used as much "theme" Music as 3. I say this because I watched 3 last night.

8. It breaks the rules of Die hard by not being in a fixed area. Let's see. Die Hard 1 - the Building Yep thats a fixed area. Die Hard 2 - an entire Airport and a nearby church. Well OK if you want to say that's fixed. Die Hard 3 - ALL OF NEW YORK AND A PART OF CANADA. Not fixed at all. Does anyone watch these films??? This might be number two of the worst arguments against LFODH.

9. The yippie ki yea argument someone made. They said that in LFODH he just says it turns around and shots the bad guy - SPOILER - DID YOU WATCH THE FILM!!!!!!!! He shot himself to shot the bad guy and then even talked about it after with his daughter and told to not tell any of th other cops that he sot himself. In fact due to the fact he shoots himelf to save his daughter, it is the best use of the line in any of the sequels.

There are also some lesser arguments but not as silly as ones listed above. Such as being against the use of martial arts. Die Hard 2 had that also but no complaints there....Why not???
The Sidekick - Well I can see not liking him (I did) but at least he was kind of worthless, meaning John M had to do all the work. Thats what I want in my Die Hard film. Not sam Jackson being just as much the hero as John M.

Well I am sure I have not changed the minds of any of those who made these statements. Again I guess I would not have as much of a problem with people hating this film if they compared it to just Part 1. But part 2 is S**T and nobody should complain about LFODH Bad guys and then enjoy the villians in that one. And Die Hard 3 is an average action film at best. Hell there is not really even that much action.

I also know that all of this is opinion. I can understand that not everyone will like LFODH. But when the arguments against it can be used against the other two sequels, it just does not add up.

The PG -13 rating seems to be the reason for the much of the hate and while I was against it also it did not ruin my enjoyment of the film. And if it did I am sure my arguments would sound just as Silly.

For PG-13 action fare, I enjoyed it. Easily one of the better big budgeted blockbusters to be released this year.

However, for a Die Hard sequel, I thought it was fucking garbage. I thought Die Hard 2 went over the edge in terms of how silly the action could get, but goddamn. The whole film falls the fuck apart once the fighter jet comes into play. Easily the stupidest fucking scene I've seen all year and I sat through a lot of shit this year. Considering my friend and I were the youngest two people in the theater for the 7:30pm showing this evening (everyone else was over 40 year old), there's absoultely no reason why this should've been PG-13. The film could've been more darker (and more entertaining) if they went the R route with the material present here. The first two thirds (just like DHWAV) is actually some pretty decent stuff, but the last third (just like DHWAV) was just stupid.

Wow, talk about taking things too seriously. I'm sorry your feelings were so hurt over not knowing the name of a character four movies into the franchise.

I will now seriously respond to your post:

1) The wife is barely mentioned at all. Really just at the beginning with his daughter and then in the car ride with the hacker, during the "you're that guy" conversation. What's so wrong with the divorce always coming into the picture? This happens all the time in real life, its about time a movie character has it as a flaw. I would think McClane less realistic of a character if he got divorced and then just brushed it off to be the stereotypical Hollywood badass. I don't blame him for still being bitter about the ex especially now with a daughter that hates him.

2) The threat was not that unrealistic at all. While yeah it did go a little PC with the ex DoD leader, but what do you expect. Every movie is like that now, even Sum of All Fears which was a book about Islamic terrorists got PCed to death. Despite that, the threat of things like that happening to our computer systems is real and easier than you think. Theres enough hackers here in the US, around the world in the Middle East, China etc etc that are hacking into things on a daily basis. Only a matter of time before more and more of them work together and do something major...obviously probably not as Hollywood catastrophe as the movie but this is a serious threat.

3) McClane is not 60-70. Bruce Willis is 52. Where did you come up with the age? Was there something in any of the other Die Hards that date McClane to that age group?

4) Maggie Q and Timothy 'Im not Josh Duhamel' Olyphant were pretty good, not Bruce Willis good, but still better than Justin Long. The only unrealistic scene in my opinion was the Maggie Q death scene. She would have been dead way earlier or at least a whole lot more messed up than she was if it were real life. I mean she got crushed between an SUV and an elevator shaft and then was jumping and flipping around like she just got to the circus.

5) I didnt notice any dubbing, but pretty much every movie has that problem pop up at least once. I bet they were shooting an R movie when half way through the studio came down on them with a PG 13 demand and it was just cheaper to dub than reshoot...but at least that leads to hopes of an R or Unrated DVD.

While there are some things to nitpick about this movie man you're being pretty bold in saying its going down as the worst Die Hard. Did they trade Die Hard 2 to the Rambo franchise for a movie to be named later? I have to say so far you're in the vast minority on this since just looking at IMDB its coming in at 8.2/10 after 15,529 votes...good for the 201st highest ranked movie of all time.

TheBigHead thank you for posting, you posted my exact thoughts (though mine were a little long winded) and put the haters in place....you and I might be long lost brothers.

LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD KICKS ASS!!!!!!!!!! BEST PURE ACTION MOVIE SINCE TRUE LIES!!!!

In McClane We Trust!

Going to see it again soon...

Too bad I won't get a HD DVD release though, stupid FOX

IMRICKJAMES For President!

Well said.....

Calm down. Jesus.

His wife Holly was in both the first and second film.

I saw it today. I liked it for what it was. An all out action flick. I do agree that it didn't quite have the feeling of being a Die Hard movie. But, regardless of that fact, it was a great summer action flick and I'm glad I saw it.

This is the one moment in the film that is apparently unclear to people. She is completely on the hood when the car slams into the back wall of the elevator. She is not crushed between the wall and the car.

Very entertaining.. there was a hint of the previous films and of the McClane attitude, it went a little over the top with the True Lies segment tho.

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to the comments made by TheBigHead and IAMRICKJAMES!

It sure looked that way, but anyways, I would imagine she would be real messed up smashing into things all the way through the building to the elevator shaft. Combine that with McClane beating her up before that...I don't think she would be flipping around and jumping all around with no sign of injuries. Still...its a movie, no big deal.

Come on, if movies were completely real they would be awfully boring.