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AFIís 100 Years... 100 Movies Ė 10th Anniversary Edition

Old 06-20-07, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Zodiac_Speaking
I don't know if I can take a list seriously when The Third Man is not on there but LotR is.
I thought it was because they realized that The Third Man was a British film, not an American one - but, no, there it is, still on the 400 nominated list.
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Originally Posted by MechanicalMan
Quiet Man sucks.
I feel sorry for you mechanical man....all gears, no emotion...
Old 06-20-07, 10:44 PM
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I'd dump: Blade Runner, Last Picture Show, Sophe's Choice, Swing TIme, Sixth Sense, 12 Angry Men and Spartacus

And restore: Patton, Dances With Wolves, Third man, Stagecoach, Frankenstein, My Fair lady and Close Encounters
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I'm disgusted with the AFI. See post below.

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Lots of things to quibble about, but the final blow to AFI's credibility is dropping THE THIRD MAN while several dubious titles either held on or were added.
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Any list that purports to be of the 100 greatest films of all time and yet simultaneously omits:

All Quiet on the Western Front (1930) (formerly 54)
The Third Man (1949) (formerly 57)
Fantasia (1940) (formerly 58)
Rebel Without a Cause (1955) (formerly 59)
Stagecoach (1939) (formerly 63)
The Manchurian Candidate (1962) (formerly 67)
An American in Paris (1951) (formerly 68)
Wuthering Heights (1939) (formerly 73)
Dances with Wolves (1990) (formerly 75)
Frankenstein (1931) (formerly 87)
Patton (1970) (formerly 89)
The Jazz Singer (1927) (formerly 90)
My Fair Lady (1964) (formerly 91)

may be characterized as thoroughly laughable -- a fraud!

Addendum: It's outrageous that Brokeback Mountain was overlooked again. The AFI website has more than 100 personal, lengthy tributes to it! When will the Hollywood homophobia end???
Old 06-20-07, 10:49 PM
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duality....

you are like tommy two times (two times) from goodfellas.
Old 06-20-07, 10:51 PM
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Well, I can't find an edit button or a quote button tonight. Sorry.

They are back!!!

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I should have turned it off when The Sixth Sense was not only on the list, but ahead of Goodfellas.
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Originally Posted by marty888
Lots of things to quibble about, but the final blow to AFI's credibility is dropping THE THIRD MAN while several dubious titles either held on or were added.
Well, at least The Third Man is well-recognized in Britain, where it's basically the "Citizen Kane" of that country and usually in the #1 spot on lists of greatest British films of all time.
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the show shoulda lost me when ben hur was 100.

And the sixth sense not only 11 places in FRONT of it, but also in front of PULP FICTION?

But, I like watching movies, just making me crazy every time i think i see a non worthy movie in front of these two outstanding movies.

(I think the vicodin/xanax combination is taking effect, I'm less pissed off)
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I should have turned it off when Titanic was compared to Casablanca!
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I was actually a pretty big fan of the list. I thought it was much better than looking at past Oscar winners but now it seems to have succumbed to be as laughable as the past Oscar winners list. At least there's still Sight and Sounds List of movies which not only recognizes American films but films from all over the world.
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Originally Posted by Duality
I should have turned it off when Titanic was compared to Casablanca!
Old 06-20-07, 11:15 PM
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Unlike when the first list rolled around, I've now seen almost all of the movies on the list (I'm sure I'll get to the others eventually, but it won't be a huge priority.) And just like the previous list (and every other "Greatest Films" list) there are things I strongly disagree with and there are things I very much agree with. But overall, I think it does a fairly decent job of representing some of what is generally the most critically acclaimed American cinema, though there are of course some dubious additions.

For those first entering into the world of "classic cinema" I think it would provide a fairly decent starting off point.

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On a more positive note, I was very happy to see "Vertigo" takes its rightful spot in the top ten. It's generally ranked very highly on most "other" (international) lists (They Shoot Pictures Don't They, Sight and Sound) and I was always a bit surprised (but not very) by its position on the lower half of the previous (American) list. It's my favorite film of all time, and I'm pleased to see it ranked considerably higher than it was before.

"The General" was one of the most glaring omissions from the previous list, and what the hell happened to "The Third Man"?!

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I'm happy to see Vertigo in the top ten, but I'm even happier to see it above Psycho, where it belongs.

Also happy that City Lights moved up so much; it's such a wonderful film.

I actually endured all of The Birth of a Nation in one sitting (in a class), and I agree that Intolerance (which I've only seen a portion of) was basically a more politically-correct substitute for it.

Rocky is one of my favorite films, but I don't think it should have moved up 21 spots, and I definitely don't think it deserves to be above Network and The Silence of the Lambs.

The Sixth Sense is a good movie, but definitely not a Top-100 movie, especially when The Exorcist, Halloween, Rosemary's Baby and The Shining (all superior "scary" movies IMO) were on the ballot, but missed the list.

Pulp Fiction should be much higher. It was only three years old when the first list was compiled, and I expected to see it advance more than one spot, especially given the influence it has had on films since its release.

And there's something that bothers me about the fact that Toy Story made the list, but Fantasia was knocked out.

I wish that Million Dollar Baby had made it; it might be the best American film of the decade so far for me. I also wish that Blue Velvet, the only David Lynch film on the ballot (Eraserhead and Mulholland Drive really should have been on there too), had made an appearance.

I'm happier with this list than the 1997 version, though. For a list that necessarily excludes all non-American releases, it's decent.
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Originally Posted by Arpeggi
Climbs, yes. but what about The Third Man getting bumped off the list?!
The Third Man was a mistake the first time around as far as I'm concerned. No, not because it didn't belong on a list of the greatest films of all time, because it does, but because this is a list of American made films and it was the only movie on the original list that was not American made (it is British).
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Wow, jeff bridges looks like one of the smith cough drop brothers (when I acually envision him being "el duderino).
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I thought for sure American Beauty would have made the list
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Films that need to be ranked higher:

15. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) (+7)
30. Apocalypse Now (1979) (-2)
36. The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957) (-23)
48. Rear Window (1954) (-6)
52. Taxi Driver (1976) (-5)
70. A Clockwork Orange (1971) (-24)
79. The Wild Bunch (1969) (+1)
92. Goodfellas (1990) (+2)
97. Blade Runner (1982) (NEW)
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I was very happy to see the addition of 12 Angry Men; what an exceptional film. My only real squabble would be the inclusion of Blade Runner. However, I don't pay too much attention to rankings since they are bound to change with time and was mainly watching with the purpose to find some ideas for quality films I haven't seen. Even better if such films inspire or provoke thought as to how I can further become a better person. I've got lots of movie watching ahead it appears.
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Raging Bull is way too high in my opinion.

But I agree that Vertigo and The Searchers were far too low before.

Glad to see Blade Runner on there too...wonderful film.
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I could have sworn that Young Frankenstein was on the previous list.
Tell me I'm not crazy...
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Originally Posted by Mike
I could have sworn that Young Frankenstein was on the previous list.
Tell me I'm not crazy...
Sorry, you're crazy, () but Frankenstein was on it, and Young Frankenstein was highly ranked on the AFI's comedies list.
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HOORAY for "Singin in the Rain".
Nice to see a musical get some Respect.

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