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MGR 08-28-07 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Giles
well... if you found this website:
Blade Zone
there's a coupon for $2.00 off admission price coupon for the New York City Ziegfeld run (Oct 5 - 18th)

Thanks for the link. That's the NY theater. I was curious about which theater in LA would be showing film. Didn't find that info on BladeZone

However, it's nice that it's going to be a 2 week run, rather than just a single week.

Also it's a bit odd they're doing this re-release in early Oct, rather than in Dec. closer to the release date of the new version on DVD. Which would make more sense from a tie-in publicity point of view.

BobSchlapowitz 08-29-07 12:44 AM

Man, I was/am still hoping for a Boston run. I would imagine if there was one it would be at the AMC Loews Boston Common. They have DLP.

bboisvert 09-10-07 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Arpeggi
I can feel the jealousy.

Meh... not really. Had they decided to screen this in Boston, I absolutely would go...

... but I'm also just as happy picking up the HD DVD in a couple of months. That will be enough of a quality presentation for me. ;)

CKMorpheus 09-10-07 11:30 AM

Any info on the when/where in LA? I'm gonna assume it's at the Arclight, but nothing is on their website, nor on the Blade Runner: Final Cut site.

Giles 09-26-07 10:33 AM

actually the LA screening will be at the Landmark theatre

like the Ziegfeld presentation - it's digital, but if it's like the recent 'Dr. Strangelove' Landmark Theatre presentation will be featured in 4K LCoS. The Ziegfeld's setup is NEC's 2K DLP system.

Supermallet 09-26-07 05:21 PM

Oh, god damn it. I wanted to see Blade Runner in the Cinerama Dome. The 4k that the Landmark has is nice (saw that Dr. Strangelove presentation), but even their best theaters don't compare to the Dome.

Neeb 09-26-07 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Oh, god damn it. I wanted to see Blade Runner in the Cinerama Dome. The 4k that the Landmark has is nice (saw that Dr. Strangelove presentation), but even their best theaters don't compare to the Dome.

Only movie theater lobby that feels like an airport...

Blade Runner needs to show at the Dome, Village or the NATIONAL.

Landmark is nice, but can't hold a candle to any of the above three. And if they really cared, it would play at the Nuart.

Arpeggi 09-26-07 11:01 PM

No Arclight? FUCK!

Giles 09-27-07 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Oh, god damn it. I wanted to see Blade Runner in the Cinerama Dome. The 4k that the Landmark has is nice (saw that Dr. Strangelove presentation), but even their best theaters don't compare to the Dome.

obviousily. but you'd think Warner's would book the largest screen for this film... or even give it a wider distribution. I wonder whose dick Mark Cuban had to suck over at Warner Bros. to get the Landmark to feature this. Given it's a digial release and not 35mm - Warner's is being real ass-holish about the exclusivety you'd think they let as many fans, nationally, to experience this on the big screen - but no, money is of no importance to them. I think the Landmark was chosen because Warner's restored the film with 4K processing, and Landmark is the only theatre in LA that can playback and present the film as such - and since there are no 4K digitial systems for commercial presentation in New York City- Clearview got lucky and the Ziegfeld got the honour.

Drop 09-27-07 12:56 PM

Youd'd think they'd try to do a fairly wide release. I mean digital theatres are so much more plentiful now, how hard is it to book theatres all across the country for atleast one night, say a saturday (like a sneak preview)? If that's successful open for a longer time. I can't imagine they'd lose money with the cult of Blade Runner out there.

Giles 09-27-07 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Drop
Youd'd think they'd try to do a fairly wide release. I mean digital theatres are so much more plentiful now, how hard is it to book theatres all across the country for atleast one night, say a saturday (like a sneak preview)? If that's successful open for a longer time. I can't imagine they'd lose money with the cult of Blade Runner out there.

no they can't - Warner's are just being uber-elitist douchebrains for this lame release. I am surprised the fans haven't been more vocal and sent hate mail to Warners.

Mabuse 10-02-07 01:03 PM

Warner re-released THX 1138 digitally in many theaters a few years ago. It just goes to show that they will do it if enough presure is applied.

BTW, the Cinerama Dome, while very big, does not provide an ideal presentation. The curvature of the screen cannot be compensated for by the new projector which leads to distortion of the image that is most evident when projecting a straight horizontal line (like a picture of a sunrise over a horizon).

Basically the Cinerama Dome screen and projector are incompatible entities from two different eras. The giant curved screen was intended for 3 strip Cinerama, but then they never installed the three projectors. They opted to install one 35/70 mm projector, which ideally should be projecting its images on a flat screen. They never actually showed three strip Cinerama movies there (until a massive restoration of the theater in 2002). Today it's a great place to see 3 strip Cinerama movies (one of the only places in the world), but it is inferior for any traditional "single film element" widescreen film of any aspect ratio.

Ask me about the Chinese sometime, I hate that theater too. The best of LA are the Fox Westwood and the El Capitan. Arclight's auditoriums (everything but The Dome) are, of course, superb. And to the guy who said they should show it at the NuArt...What the fuck? I love the NuArt, but the presentation is inferior.

Giles 10-02-07 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Mabuse
Warner re-released THX 1138 digitally in many theaters a few years ago. It just goes to show that they will do it if enough presure is applied.

BTW, the Cinerama Dome, while very big, does not provide an ideal presentation. The curvature of the screen cannot be compensated for by the new projector and leads to slight distortion that is most evident when projecting a straight horizontal line (like a picture of a sunrise over a horizon).

Basicly the Cinerama Dome screen and projector are incompatible entities from two different eras. The giant curved screen was intended for 3 strip Cinerama, but then they never installed the three projectors. They opted to install one 35/70 mm projector, which idealy should be projecting its images on a flat screen. They never actually showed three strip Cinerama movies there (until a massive restoration of the theater in 2002). It's a great place to see 3 strip Cinerama movies (one of the only places in the world), but it is inferior for any traditional "single film element" widescreen film of any aspect ratio.

Ask me about the Chinese sometime, I hate that theater too. The best of LA are the Fox Westwood and the El Capitan. Arclight's auditoriums (everything but The Dome) are, of course, superb. And to the guy who said they should show it at the NuArt...What the fuck? I love the NuArt, but the presentation is inferior.

I don't now how simliar the degree of the curvature is compared to DC's Uptown Theatre - but movies at the Uptown where the aspect ratio is 2.35 or greater have never displayed distortion.

Neeb 10-02-07 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by Mabuse
And to the guy who said they should show it at the NuArt...What the fuck? I love the NuArt, but the presentation is inferior.

Blade Runner had its return engagement at the NuArt in 1992 and played for several weeks there. It is directly responsible for its critical acclaim from the last 15 years.
That's what the fuck.

Arpeggi 10-02-07 10:23 PM

The NuArt sucks. The films playing there (more recently Pierrot Le Fou) are great but the theater sucks.

Giantrobo 10-02-07 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by Arpeggi
The NuArt sucks. The films playing there (more recently Pierrot Le Fou) are great but the theater sucks.


Blade Runner had its return engagement at the NuArt in 1992 and played for several weeks there. It is directly responsible for its critical acclaim from the last 15 years.
That's what the fuck.

I agree on both points. I do think that 1992 engagement got things going again for BR. But still, the NuArt, with its "Classic movie house stylings", is great for seeing old movies pre-1980. Seeing Rocky Horror('75) and Godzilla('54) is awesome there, but Blade Runner is better off at a newer Landmark theater.

Ringmaster 10-05-07 05:48 PM

I just saw The final cut at the 11 am showing at the Landmark in L.A. This is the definitive version of Blade Runner. The picture/sound restoration is out of this world and the editing is perfect. The new footage is wonderful. I can't wait for the DVD box set.

Arpeggi 10-05-07 06:12 PM

Going to the 11 am showing tomorrow! Can't wait!

TheGuy 10-05-07 10:03 PM

How are the crowds? I am going to the 10pm show Sat. in NYC. Any chance of it being a sell out?

Daytripper 10-05-07 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by Ringmaster
I just saw The final cut at the 11 am showing at the Landmark in L.A. This is the definitive version of Blade Runner. The picture/sound restoration is out of this world and the editing is perfect. The new footage is wonderful. I can't wait for the DVD box set.

What new footage?

Supermallet 10-05-07 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by Ringmaster
This is the definitive version of Blade Runner.

Ah, so it doesn't try to cram the idea that Deckard is a replicant down our throats? That's the only way it would be definitive to me. :)

Of course, this is coming from someone whose favorite version is the European cut (sans the happy ending) and whose most awaited version from the box set is the workprint.

SPiRAL 10-05-07 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by Ringmaster
I just saw The final cut at the 11 am showing at the Landmark in L.A. This is the definitive version of Blade Runner. The picture/sound restoration is out of this world and the editing is perfect. The new footage is wonderful. I can't wait for the DVD box set.


Was it showing upstairs in the " Living Rooms " with the couches and tables or was it in the regular rooms ?

Arpeggi 10-06-07 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by SPiRAL
Was it showing upstairs in the " Living Rooms " with the couches and tables or was it in the regular rooms ?

The 11 am showing I went to today was in a regular room. (Screen #1)

The movie was awesome, the print looked amazing. Well worth the $9 I spent.

Supermallet 10-07-07 03:31 AM

The print should look amazing, it's 4K digital.

I just got back from seeing it. I've had the privilege of seeing a lot of rare films on the big screen, or well known films in rare formats, but I can honestly say that only one film experience has equaled the experience of seeing this cut of Blade Runner on the big screen, and that was seeing a brand new 70mm print of 2001: A Space Odyssey. I've seen Blade Runner countless times, but this was like seeing a whole different film. The impact of watching it on the big screen is incomparable. Ridley Scott's attention to detail suddenly comes to life on a screen that size. But it's not just the wide shots that benefit. The close-ups become a whole new experience. Seeing Batty on the screen for the first time was suddenly a seriously imposing moment. It's a damn shame that WB is only putting this on two screens across the country, because seeing it outside of a theater, even in an excellent home theater, doesn't do it justice. And the sound played a big part of it as well. The Landmark thankfully turned the speakers to a nice loud volume so that the music of Vangelis could wash over you. I was hearing and seeing things I was never able to make out before.

As for the new cut, the changes are subtle, but their impact is tremendous. The climax felt very different, and it packed much more of an emotional wallop. Most of the changes seem to be in different editing choices as opposed to adding new footage. The digital effects were pretty seamless.

But the best part about it is that this version no longer beats you over the head with the idea that Deckard is a Replicant. The infamous line Bryant has that suggests that there are five surviving Replicants has been changed, so that's been taken care of. The shot where Deckard's eyes glow is no longer so obvious. If you're not paying careful attention, you might not even catch it anymore. I think they might actually have digitally lessened the glare to make it harder to notice. And the editing in the unicorn sequence no longer makes it look like Deckard has fallen asleep, which means it could be interpreted as Deckard brooding over Rachael, intercut with a unicorn which is meant to symbolize her -- i.e., she's not real. I can watch this version and come away with the idea that Deckard isn't a Replicant thanks to the changes made. I remember an interview in the last few years where Ridley Scott said point blank that Deckard is a Replicant, but perhaps that was taken out of context or he realized that ambiguity and letting the audience decide is the better way to go.

A part of me still misses the narration, but this cut is so masterfully done that it's only an afterthought. This is the definitive cut of Blade Runner, and I never thought I'd hear myself say that. I've always loved the European Cut (sans the happy ending), but they finally got it right. And it only took them 25 years.

Tracer Bullet 10-07-07 12:43 PM

Yeah, I saw it last night. It was amazing, and I'll be going again before the 18th.


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