View Poll Results: Temple or Crusade
The Temple of Doom



98
39.20%
The Last Crusade



152
60.80%
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Temple of Doom or Last Crusade
#1
Temple of Doom or Last Crusade
Temple for me.
The opening of Crusade had some guy who was not Ford, while Temple had Indy starting the movie as Humphrey Bogart meets James Bond and then the action never let up. Crusade wasn't horrible, but it tried to be too much like Raiders, and it makes jokes out of Brody and Sallah turning them into caricatures of the dignified men they were originally, at least Temple's humor was sarcasm, Crusade's felt forced. Also that hokey old knight at the end... blah, the whole thing felt too preachy. Temple is more tightly constructed compared to the meandering and tired Crusade. Though the screentime between Connery and Ford was good, i miss the more cynical Indy of the 1st two, Temple feels the most like the pulp serials they based it off. It has too many good scenes and that one scene where Indy knocks out the Thuggee and they show him standing there as the children's savior, the mine carts or bridge scene.
The opening of Crusade had some guy who was not Ford, while Temple had Indy starting the movie as Humphrey Bogart meets James Bond and then the action never let up. Crusade wasn't horrible, but it tried to be too much like Raiders, and it makes jokes out of Brody and Sallah turning them into caricatures of the dignified men they were originally, at least Temple's humor was sarcasm, Crusade's felt forced. Also that hokey old knight at the end... blah, the whole thing felt too preachy. Temple is more tightly constructed compared to the meandering and tired Crusade. Though the screentime between Connery and Ford was good, i miss the more cynical Indy of the 1st two, Temple feels the most like the pulp serials they based it off. It has too many good scenes and that one scene where Indy knocks out the Thuggee and they show him standing there as the children's savior, the mine carts or bridge scene.
#3
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I'm going for Last Crusade. Indy vs. Nazis beats Indy vs. Child Slave runners any day.
Temple of Doom:
pluses -
- Bridge fight
- Short Round
- Final Scene where Indy returns to the village
negatives-
- Willie
- dinner scene
- ripping out of still beating heart
- No Nazis
Last Crusade:
Pluses-
- Nazis
- revealing Indy's namesake and reason for fear of snakes
- Blimp ride and subsequent bi-plane ride
- Tank fight
- kept with religious artifact
Negatives-
- old knight at the end
- a bit too slapsticky in places
- Brody acts like a boob
Temple of Doom:
pluses -
- Bridge fight
- Short Round
- Final Scene where Indy returns to the village
Spoiler:
negatives-
- Willie
- dinner scene
- ripping out of still beating heart
- No Nazis
Last Crusade:
Pluses-
- Nazis

- revealing Indy's namesake and reason for fear of snakes
- Blimp ride and subsequent bi-plane ride
- Tank fight
- kept with religious artifact
Negatives-
- old knight at the end
- a bit too slapsticky in places
- Brody acts like a boob
Last edited by GoldenJCJ; 05-21-07 at 07:39 PM.
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Hmm...
The Temple of Doom
-Awesome bolt-action rifles.
-Awesome SFX.
The Last Crusade
-A Potato Masher and Mauser rifle combo' action.
-The pistol shot.
Erm... I think I will go with ToD because it had better SFX and more action.
The Temple of Doom
-Awesome bolt-action rifles.
-Awesome SFX.
The Last Crusade
-A Potato Masher and Mauser rifle combo' action.
-The pistol shot.
Erm... I think I will go with ToD because it had better SFX and more action.
#9
Originally Posted by FRwL
and it makes jokes out of Brody and Sallah turning them into caricatures of the dignified men they were originally, at least Temple's humor was sarcasm, Crusade's felt forced.
Raiders is near perfect. It's the only Speilberg movie that I start-to-finish love.
Temple of Doom's got some problems, but I saw it young enough that I can sort of overlook them - & there's enough good stuff to make it worthwhile. I admit I've shut it off many times right after the raft down a hill scene...
Last Crusade is the only one I didn't see in a theater. When I did finally see it, it was worse than I expected. I don't think I liked a single thing about it. Anything that might've been cool, was a retread. I've never been a Bond fan & had no love for Connery, but when I heard he was cast, I was expecting a wilder character that Indy would barely be able to keep up. I don't know if that would've worked. It might've been just as lame as what we got: C-3PO. All humor is forced & unfunny. The direction seems to be: Mug, mug, mug. The father-son relationship doesn't work & Harrison's little boy act is embarrassing. As bad as or worse than Regarding Henry.
The FX in both sequels seem much worse than Raiders.
Anyone who likes Temple of Doom should check out Gunga Din sometime. I caught part of it recently & it felt very familiar.
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If Temple would have avoided the silly heart-ripping, then I probably would have voted for it. But that one element ruined the movie so much for me that it is easily my least favorite of the trilogy.
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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
Temple of Doom:
pluses -
- Bridge fight
- Short Round
- Final Scene where Indy returns to the village
pluses -
- Bridge fight
- Short Round
- Final Scene where Indy returns to the village
Spoiler:
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Crusade, but by a small margin.
This is one of the main reasons I didn't like Crusade as much as I should have. Making jokes of Sallah and Brody. The OP summed it up perfectly. They turned Sallah into a bumbling fool. I didn't like that in the movie other than that, all is good. I like the boat scene in Venice, the rats, the hot blonde Nazi girl
the blimp ride and tanks in the desert. Though I agree with other posters the knight at the end was hokey.
ToD-Willie was annoying as hell, she can't even touch Marion. I liked Short Round and the thugges. The bridge scene kicked ass, but the movie slowed down a bit in the middle for me. The dinner scene was limp, but mine car fight/chase was cool.
Crusade wasn't horrible, but it tried to be too much like Raiders, and it makes jokes out of Brody and Sallah turning them into caricatures of the dignified men they were originally, at least Temple's humor was sarcasm, Crusade's felt forced.
the blimp ride and tanks in the desert. Though I agree with other posters the knight at the end was hokey.ToD-Willie was annoying as hell, she can't even touch Marion. I liked Short Round and the thugges. The bridge scene kicked ass, but the movie slowed down a bit in the middle for me. The dinner scene was limp, but mine car fight/chase was cool.
#14
Voted for Temple. Best-paced adventure of the trilogy.
#15
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Crusade. Temple is BY FAR the weakest of the three. Connery annoying? Perhaps, but not half as annoying as Kate Capshaw's character in Temple. It also helps that Crusade as the lovely Alison Doody in it:

To be honest, I am not a huge fan of either sequel. While I own the boxed set, I only ever rewatch the original.

To be honest, I am not a huge fan of either sequel. While I own the boxed set, I only ever rewatch the original.
#17
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Last Crusade.
#22
DVD Talk Legend
ToD is not nearly as bad as people make it out to be, and it's still better than 99% of the crap action films turned out by Hollywood. Still Kate Capshaw is pretty frickin' annoying.
LC is just a much stronger film, and comes close to recapturing the magic of the first.
LC is just a much stronger film, and comes close to recapturing the magic of the first.
#23
DVD Talk Hero
Originally Posted by Rogue588
You the neglected to mention Indy's fight in the mine right after he says "Right. ALL OF US." Combined with Williams' awesome score, this is always one high point of the flick for me.



