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RichC2 04-08-07 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Zodiac_Speaking
Death Proof blew the fun away I had with the trailers and Planet Terror.

Overall, except the trailers, but the features seemed to self referential, to wink wink. Back then, they were trying to make good films but were undone by corny dialogue, bad FX, ect, they didn't know. Here the directors should've cut back the wink wink shit.

Taratino's I think betrayed what the Grindhouse movie was up till the opening credits of Death Proof. Few gimmicks were used, like scratches and sound beeps, but it just looked to modern.

Speaking of modern, they acted a lot like the films were placed in the 70s, then suddenly they make a modern reference to Bin Laden or Lindsay Lohan. Dumb.

Trailers were the best.

Grade: C+

...And cell phones, text messages, videogames, etc; actually other than the film grain, I don't recall any point where they acted like they were in the 70s.

ScandalUMD 04-08-07 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Zodiac_Speaking
Death Proof blew the fun away I had with the trailers and Planet Terror.

Overall, except the trailers, but the features seemed to self referential, to wink wink. Back then, they were trying to make good films but were undone by corny dialogue, bad FX, ect, they didn't know. Here the directors should've cut back the wink wink shit.

Taratino's I think betrayed what the Grindhouse movie was up till the opening credits of Death Proof. Few gimmicks were used, like scratches and sound beeps, but it just looked to modern.

Speaking of modern, they acted a lot like the films were placed in the 70s, then suddenly they make a modern reference to Bin Laden or Lindsay Lohan. Dumb.

Trailers were the best.

Grade: C+

Actually, I think all the talking was very much what the old exploitation films were about. Stretching zero budget out to feature length meant they had to wrap their five minutes of money shots in an hour and a half of filler. A grindhouse movie would absolutely wrap 45 minutes of talk around footage of a car crash.

Also, 70's movies were slower paced anyway. "The French Connection" is very much about the buildup before the payoff.

Even "The Godfather" opens with about half an hour of talking. If that were a new movie, you guys would probably all be bitching about how long the wedding scene goes on.

Drop 04-08-07 12:41 PM

I enjoyed the films about equally. They were fairly different and had different goals but were successful in what they went for. They both started off a little shakey for me, but once I got into their groves it was great.

I enjoyed the dialogue in Death Proof except for maybe the opening one with the girls talking about scoring some pot. It might've just been because it was such a change of pace, hopefully I'll enjoy that stuff more the second time around. I felt the payoff in Death Proof was much better than Planet Terror's, but Planet Terror was more consistently thrilling.

The fake trailers were great, and I hope to see everyone of those films for real some day.

Looking forward to catching it again, and it deserves to make more money and a lot of it.

Seantn 04-08-07 01:16 PM


Speaking of modern, they acted a lot like the films were placed in the 70s, then suddenly they make a modern reference to Bin Laden or Lindsay Lohan. Dumb.
Yeah, they also had a girl with a machine gun leg, a guy who cuts everyones balls off, and infected zombies running around. I don't see why modern references are a bad thing. They may have wanted to make a Grindhouse film, but it was made in 2007, they don't have to pretend that they're in the 70's. People were using cell phones and text messaging each other in both films.

kaze0 04-08-07 01:21 PM

I still think the pop culture references are going to hurt the movie in the future. In 15 years the Bin Laden reference is going to be meaningless.

The Bus 04-08-07 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by kaze0
I still think the pop culture references are going to hurt the movie in the future. In 15 years the Bin Laden reference is going to be meaningless.

It's true. Today, no one remembers who Stalin is.

Adam Tyner 04-08-07 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by kaze0
I still think the pop culture references are going to hurt the movie in the future.

Even ignoring the bin Laden thing, do you think that most genuine grindhouse flicks aren't dated?

ScandalUMD 04-08-07 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Zodiac_Speaking
Speaking of modern, they acted a lot like the films were placed in the 70s, then suddenly they make a modern reference to Bin Laden or Lindsay Lohan. Dumb.

Trailers were the best.

Grade: C+

They didn't act like a lot of the films were placed in the 70s

Mondo Kane 04-08-07 03:44 PM

Alright, saw it out of town on Friday and am finally back with reactions. First off, the crowd (At a 9:30 showing) was great. They seemed to have gotten all the nods and were laughing at all the right moments in the movies and in the trailers (Plus big applause as soon as "THE END" showed up)
I was amazed at how friggin' cool Planet Terror turned out to be, but towards the last 8 minutes (Aside from the final sequence--Which I really liked) it felt like the momentum had died and things just became too hokey like:
Spoiler:
Cherry launching herself over the wall, the glasses she picks up,Dakota's final run-in with Doc Block


While browsing through all the other responses here, I'm really not surprised that some clueless folks left the theater after PT. Afterall, the recognizable imagery for Grindhouse was for this movie alone. Now lemme get to some responses before I go into Death Proof.


Originally Posted by DarthMarino
Did anyone catch what the "real" title was? I thought I saw the word 'Thunder' in there but I can't even be certain.

"Thunderbolt" as already mentioned but I had myself a "Grindhouse marathon" prior to watching this and noticed this "homage" a few times. In Blood Freak, the title appears twice and Master of the Flying Guillotine contains both that title AND it's other title, One-Armed Boxer vs The Flying Guillotine. Nice touch!


Originally Posted by DarthMarino
I thought the missing reels were good. It was also kind of cool how
Spoiler:
there were subtle tie ins between the two features such as Dr. Dakota Block and the McGraw boys
.

The Bus already mentioned the other nod involving Fergie's car-radio, but how about the return of the sherrif and Son #1 from KILL BILL in DP!


Originally Posted by GreenVulture
By the way, weren't there a whole bunch of other trailers shot? I could've sworn I read that Tarantino made a few of his own, and Rodriguez had done some more.

Yup. "Cowgirls in Sweden" was supposed to be Tarantino's trailer (There was even rumors that Christina Lindberg was to have a cameo in it since she was visiting L.A. by that time) but he never got it around to making it.

As far as the other trailers that did make it to Grindhouse, loved 'em all. Didn't expect both "Machete" and "Don't" to be that funny (Although "Don't" appeared to have been a serious horror film, the execution of it was hilarious) Too much has already been said about beloved "Thanksgiving" (Saw it online too many times, but it didn't lose NO impact in the theater!)
But I expected more from "Werewolf/SS". All the publicity on it was for Sybill Danning doing an Ilsa clone, but god, besides the name-reading from the Voice-over, she was barely in the trailer! It's been said that the trailer did have to edit stuff to get an R-rating. So maybe the narrative went along with it too.

And speaking of "Missing Reels", the lap dance in DP was filmed (You can see it in the trailer) and there was an additional scene that you can find on "The Making of Grindhouse" which shows Mike stalking and spying on the 2nd group of girls. All shot in B&W, by the way.

Now, my reactions to DP are a little mixed. Yup, I agree that there's a surprisingly large amount of talking which could make viewers restless--Especially given the 3-hour time. But all that was put aside when the you-know-what moments occured.
And although I wasn't as blown away from the climactic chase, it'll still get a bit of rewatchable viewing from me on DVD, without a doubt.

GreenVulture 04-08-07 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by ScandalUMD
Even "The Godfather" opens with about half an hour of talking. If that were a new movie, you guys would probably all be bitching about how long the wedding scene goes on.

The crucial differences being that the "long" conversations in The Godfather are interesting, well-acted and -written, and serve the plot.

BJacks 04-08-07 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Jordan Raup
I still would not have minded a lap dance scene.

Then you'll be happy to know the reel will be restored for the DVD release.

Baron Of Hell 04-08-07 06:44 PM

I didn't really care for planet terror but death proof was pretty good. I like the first trailer and the thanksgiving one. The other trailers were ok. To get the full effect you have to have face full of zits and be making out with your girlfriend in the backseat of your parents car.

I kind of wish they had a intermission to get snacks and go to the bathroom. I just took someone else's popcorn that fell asleep during death proof and peed on the floor.

Kudama 04-08-07 07:00 PM

Here's my opinion:
:up: to everything, esp the fucking end. Awesome! Started clapping like it was an autonomic function. I have never seen a better "The End" in my life.
(Plus I wouldn't mind having sex with that Aussie stunt chick :D )
Spoiler:
plus: Kurt Russell screaming like a little girl? Fucking priceless. He has cemented his rep as an acting GOD!

hardercore 04-08-07 07:19 PM

The Aussie stunt chick is actually a New Zealander. Learn your accents :D

Groucho 04-08-07 08:03 PM

I hope I don't get in trouble for posting this (copyright violations and all), but here's the script for Death Proof:

SCENE 1: Blah blah blah blah
SCENE 2: Lap dance! Just kidding, "REEL MISSING"
SCENE 3: A minute or so of car stuff.
SCENE 4: Blah blah blah blah
SCENE 5: Blah blah blah blah
SCENE 6: Really cool car stuff

Seriously, at one point all the girls were sitting around talking about meaningless shit. I got up, went to the bathroom, and came back -- the same conversation was still going on! Zzzzzzzz...

The Bus 04-08-07 08:05 PM

Apparently he missed the whole "Never call a Kiwi an Ozzie" conversation at the diner. ;)

maingon 04-08-07 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by Kudama
Here's my opinion:
:up: to everything, esp the fucking end. Awesome! Started clapping like it was an autonomic function. I have never seen a better "The End" in my life.
(Plus I wouldn't mind having sex with that Aussie stunt chick :D )
Spoiler:
plus: Kurt Russell screaming like a little girl? Fucking priceless. He has cemented his rep as an acting GOD!


yeah everyone started clapping at that same moment too, was pretty awesome

TripWire 04-08-07 08:36 PM

first off the "Dont" trailer was like the best part of the movie, it had me cracking up in the first few words of it. :)

I liked Planet Terror a lot better than Death Proof, though of course I still enjoyed it. To me Death Proof was too wordy, that whole lunch girl talk scene was real boring to me. It seemed Taratino was trying to bring in his usual witty conversation schtick rather than being true to a grindhouse feature. Also the movie wasn't consistent with the degrading of the quality of the picture like Planet Terror was. The car chase scene was done real well though. I just didn't get the point of all the character development, it seemed like a waste of time when most people want to see action in a type of movie like this.

The only problem I had with Planet Terror, is how the hell did Rose Mcgowan pull the trigger on the gun on her leg :P

d2cheer 04-08-07 09:13 PM

I liked Death Proof the best but was really disappointed in the whole thing overall, I really wanted to like this but was just not getting into it for some reason. Maybe it was due to the fact that there was only 3 people in the whole theater, and one left halfway through Planet Terror...

I can see this making a killing on DVD though...depending on the extra's I can see myself buying it even though I didn't think it was that great.

Daytripper 04-08-07 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by Groucho
I hope I don't get in trouble for posting this (copyright violations and all), but here's the script for Death Proof:

SCENE 1: Blah blah blah blah
SCENE 2: Lap dance! Just kidding, "REEL MISSING"
SCENE 3: A minute or so of car stuff.
SCENE 4: Blah blah blah blah
SCENE 5: Blah blah blah blah
SCENE 6: Really cool car stuff

Seriously, at one point all the girls were sitting around talking about meaningless shit. I got up, went to the bathroom, and came back -- the same conversation was still going on! Zzzzzzzz...

You said it. Just got back from seeing it. Dear God was "Death Proof" awful. Like "Kill Bill Vol. 2", the party came to a screaching halt
in the middle. Blah blah blah fucking blah. They just never shut the fuck up. And none of it was interesting, funny, clever or hip.
And to make matters worse (for me anyway), Quentin had to appear in both. Was Rodiguez even in either? If so, I didn't recognize him.
In short, "Planet Terror" and all it's previews, (****), "Death Proof" (ZERO stars).

Quentin, separated at birth.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...nlookalike.jpg

dhmac 04-08-07 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by redskull
I thought it said "Thunderbolt."

My friend says that's a nod to the real grindhouse practice of retitling a movie to trick people into thinking it's a new & different movie and paying to see it again.

Thanks - I was hoping someone noticed what that "original" title was that flashed up before the sloppily inserted title "Death Proof" showed up instead.

Arpeggi 04-08-07 09:58 PM

Movie needed more scenes with that cheerleader.

DaveCole 04-08-07 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by TripWire
The only problem I had with Planet Terror, is how the hell did Rose Mcgowan pull the trigger on the gun on her leg :P

I actually didn't think about that. I was more concerned about how she kept the gun from jamming up with dirt when she was walking around.

I hope that this one does well enough that they go with their plans to make some of the fake previews into actual films. I wouldn't mind seeing Machette the movie.

Adam Tyner 04-08-07 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by Arpeggi
Movie needed more scenes with that cheerleader.

Ha. I said the same thing to a friend of mine as we were walking out of the movie. If you got to the theater early enough and saw the same set of trailers I did, you did get another glimpse of Mary Elizabeth Winstead -- she's the daughter in Live Free or Die Hard.

JoeyOhhhh 04-08-07 10:13 PM

I went into this movie looking foward to Death Proof, and disliking Planet Terror, walked out with the opposite opinion. Like what has been stated before, DP is too wordy, I lost interest with the second group of girls involved. Their converstions were long, uninteresting, and seemed misplaced with the characters.

BTW, did anyone else notice Jack Burton's shirt from Big Trouble in Little China hanging up in the bar in the beginning of Death Proof?


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