Eragon
#26
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Originally Posted by Dalvin
I believe the studio felt that if it were at a shorter running time, that would mean more audiences would be able to see the flick, which in turn would make the compnay more money, since it could be shown more.
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This maybe for the best as sad as that is for me to say being a fantasy fan. Eldest had to be worst letdown in history of book sequels I had ever seen and the liberties they would have to take to make functional movie would take alot work. That is coming from someone that loved Eragon as well. May as well nip it bud now.
#28
Originally Posted by RichC2
Let's not forget it's direct comparisons: Narnia, LotR, and Inland Empire are all long ass movies.
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#31
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Originally Posted by ScandalUMD
And it is awful. I don't even have to read it to know it's awful. He took the word "Dragon" moved the first letter of the word one up in the alphabet, and that's his title. That's pretty much a working definition of awful.
#33
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Originally Posted by milo bloom
I'll tell you what's really awful, that hack Kubrick took IBM, moved each letter back one to get HAL the robot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000
Some versions state that the name HAL was derived by a one letter shift (see Caesar cipher) from the name IBM, although this has been denied by both Arthur C. Clarke and his fictional character Dr. Chandra, who states that "by now, any idiot should know that HAL stands for Heuristic ALgorithmic" (2010).
Last edited by Jay G.; 12-15-06 at 07:04 PM.
#34
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Originally Posted by riley_dude
The fact that you can't see too many reviews of this movie is not good.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/eragon/
Of course, the number of favorable reviews is still very small, only 10 of those 66 are positive, giving it a 15% freshness rating. The user reviews seem more favorable, with a 41% freshness rating, but that's still not that good.
Oddly enough, the average rating is pretty close among critics and users. Critics give it an average rating of 4.2/10, while users give it an average of 4.4/10.
Last edited by Jay G.; 12-15-06 at 07:16 PM.
#35
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Originally Posted by mllefoo
Jealous much? You have quite a talent to be able to have an opinion on something you haven't read.
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It's hard to imagine anything being more dreadful than the Narnia movie.
If Eragon accomplished that, it would at least count for something....
though my guess is it didn't even succeed at out-sucking Narnia
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If Eragon accomplished that, it would at least count for something....
though my guess is it didn't even succeed at out-sucking Narnia
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#37
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Originally Posted by Jay G.
That's actually apocryphal. Kubrick and Clarke came up with HAL independently and didn't notice the IBM connection until viewers pointed it out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000
Also, HAL wasn't a robot, but the shipboard computer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_9000
Also, HAL wasn't a robot, but the shipboard computer.
:sigh:
#38
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Originally Posted by milo bloom
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#40
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Originally Posted by starman9000
I think he used a perfect example and was being sarcastic.
#41
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This was one of the blandest looking films I've seen in quite a while. The color palette was dour and dank in many spots, and the daylight scenes weren't all that good either.
Jeremy Irons does his yeoman's best, but can't quite elevate the material, and the guy playing Eragon, Ed Speleers, isn't all that interesting and the director/writers are perfectly okay with just putting him in scenes that just plod along with nary a thought given to time and distance covered by characters in impossibly short spans just to keep the film moving. Robert Carlyle chewed up the scenery, but wasn't all that nefarious as the Shade stooge of the king.
You could tell that many characters got the short-shrift towards the last half hour of the film, minimal character introduction and then the big finale that didn't live up to the build-up.
The dragon herself looked okay in closeups, but the flight sequences have a lot of hazy shots with not much details. It didn't look like state of the art 2006 CGI, more like 1996 CGI.
I give it 1.75 stars, or a grade of C-.
Jeremy Irons does his yeoman's best, but can't quite elevate the material, and the guy playing Eragon, Ed Speleers, isn't all that interesting and the director/writers are perfectly okay with just putting him in scenes that just plod along with nary a thought given to time and distance covered by characters in impossibly short spans just to keep the film moving. Robert Carlyle chewed up the scenery, but wasn't all that nefarious as the Shade stooge of the king.
You could tell that many characters got the short-shrift towards the last half hour of the film, minimal character introduction and then the big finale that didn't live up to the build-up.
The dragon herself looked okay in closeups, but the flight sequences have a lot of hazy shots with not much details. It didn't look like state of the art 2006 CGI, more like 1996 CGI.
I give it 1.75 stars, or a grade of C-.
#42
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Originally Posted by mllefoo
Also, a lot of stories are technically ripoffs of other stories. The Harry Potter mythos is straight out of Star Wars. Star Wars is straight out of Seven Samurai. Seven Samurai was straight out of Shakespear. There is precious little in original stories. As General Disarray so aptly put it, "Simpsons did it!"
#43
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Originally Posted by Jay G.
Unless you think the 1 letter difference between the words "Eragon" and "dragon" is entirely coincidental, then no, he didn't use a good example.
I stand by my post.
#44
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Originally Posted by starman9000
I think he used a perfect example and was being sarcastic.
#45
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Originally Posted by Joe Molotov
Except HAL could be a real name that you could come up without the IBM connection, whereas Eragon is just some made-up name that no one could ever come up with outside of saying "Hmmm...what if I replace the D in Dragon with an E..."
Yep, HAL could be a REAL name while Eragon is just some made-up name. That could be what happened. Maybe he just loves the Lord of the Rings and made a play on Aragorn. Either way, the source of a name is a pretty idiotic reason to dismiss a book.
#46
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Originally Posted by starman9000
Yep, HAL could be a REAL name while Eragon is just some made-up name. That could be what happened. Maybe he just loves the Lord of the Rings and made a play on Aragorn.
#47
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You know not to mention, the book was written by a 15-year old for kids...I dont think he was trying to be the next great American Novelist at this point in his life. Book was a fun read, nothing more nothing less. Movie does look a little hokey, and doent seem to be getting great reviews, which probably has more to do with the screenwriter and the director, not the author.
#48
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Originally Posted by Jay G.
Your alternative suggests that the author is so dense that he didn't realize his title was one letter off from dragon, which in my mind is ten times worse than it being deliberate.
Which would, in turn, suggest 2001 is completely idiotic due to the accidental connection of HAL to IBM? I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the idea that Eragon is stupid because the name is like Dragon.
#49
Originally Posted by starman9000
Which would, in turn, suggest 2001 is completely idiotic due to the accidental connection of HAL to IBM? I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the idea that Eragon is stupid because the name is like Dragon.



