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orderandlaw 12-13-06 09:42 AM

Eragon
 
Okay, I've read this book as well as The Eldest.

The film? Horrible. I was so saddened that the book was butchered in the transition to the big screen. I'm serious when I say this was almost as bad of a adaptation as Battlefield Earth.

There were some things left out in the first half of the film that I could live with. About an hour into it, I looked at my friend and I said "We're only about 30% into the book". Thirty minutes later the film ended. They crammed almost 3/4s of the book into THIRTY FREAKING MINUTES. Seriously. They decided to just start cutting characters, major cities, huge decisions made by the main character, oh yeah, and an entire RACE. (no dwarves? wtf?).

Anyways, my suggestion, save your money.

Eragon - 2/10

If you haven't read the book, or if you have ten year olds, they might enjoy it for what it's worth.

RichC2 12-13-06 09:50 AM

I was reading a review on AICN, a dad took his eleven year old son who loved the book, the kid was almost in tears from how bad they butchered it.

How many movies can actually say they were so bad they made children cry?

The Bus 12-13-06 09:59 AM

This movie looks atrocious, like Dragonheart without Sean Connery. This won't be a huge bomb, but it will be close.

Minor Threat 12-13-06 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by RichC2
How many movies can actually say they were so bad they made children cry?

Apparently you've never seen Gigli.....

mllefoo 12-13-06 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by The Bus
This movie looks atrocious, like Dragonheart without Sean Connery. This won't be a huge bomb, but it will be close.

I'm saddened by the movie butchering the story. I enjoyed the book and was looking forward to seeing this. I may still see it because I love dragons and Saphira looks great, but I haven't liked what I've seen in the trailers so far.

ScandalUMD 12-13-06 11:30 AM

I have one basic opinion on Eragon in general. It's impressive that a teenager wrote a book. But he took the word "dragon," changed the "D" to an "E" and that's the title of the book and the name of the main character.

Fucking stupid.

Glad the movie is a bomb. I think there's a use for fantastic situations when they are used as an abstraction to get to real-world subject matter, and Harry Potter in the later books has definitely taken on a very frank war-on-terror vibe.

This is about a dorky kid who wrote a terrible book about how cool it must be to ride a dragon (aren't there already a zillion dragon-riding fantasies?), and his publishing industry parents who managed to flog the piece of shit until somebody bought it. If he had tried to go about getting this published with no industry connections, it wouldn't even have hit anyone's desk on the way to the trashcan.

squidget 12-13-06 11:36 AM

I had a slight interest in this just based on all the buzz of the books
but like battlefield earth? Oh goodness. I'm staying far far away from this movie.

PalmerJoss 12-13-06 01:28 PM

I'm actually glad to hear that the movie is apparently as bad as it looks in the trailers. The book is a blatant ripoff of LOTR and Star Wars, and I couldn't finish it because it was so poorly written.

Here's hoping that the movie bombs big time and shows the movie studios that not everyone wants to see an adaptation of every big fantasy book series out there.

resinrats 12-13-06 03:33 PM

SO I guess the movie will be fine for me since I've never read the book. I thought the dragon was Eragon since it is on the cover and it sounds like something a dragon could be named.

pinata242 12-13-06 03:44 PM

Guess it'll be Night at the Museum for me and the kiddo instead. Glad to get out of this one early.

milo bloom 12-13-06 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by ScandalUMD
I have one basic opinion on Eragon in general. It's impressive that a teenager wrote a book. But he took the word "dragon," changed the "D" to an "E" and that's the title of the book and the name of the main character.

Fucking stupid.

Glad the movie is a bomb. I think there's a use for fantastic situations when they are used as an abstraction to get to real-world subject matter, and Harry Potter in the later books has definitely taken on a very frank war-on-terror vibe.

This is about a dorky kid who wrote a terrible book about how cool it must be to ride a dragon (aren't there already a zillion dragon-riding fantasies?), and his publishing industry parents who managed to flog the piece of shit until somebody bought it. If he had tried to go about getting this published with no industry connections, it wouldn't even have hit anyone's desk on the way to the trashcan.

You know, if it was a horrible book, it could've gotten published by the kid's parent's, and even made a dent the first week in sales from the publicity push, but I don't think it would have sold so well, or have gotten a movie deal if there weren't some folks out there enjoyed it and told others.

We're not talking about videogames where it can get panned in the mags, but little Johnny sees his favorite franchise on a videogame cover at the store and he has to have it. Books are a much harder sell, esp to kids.

It's been awhile since I read this, but I don't remember it being awful. It was certainly no LOTR, or even Harry Potter, but I don't remember wanting to gouge my eyes out.

As for the movie, sounds like we'll be seeing an extended DVD down the road, I can wait for that.

mllefoo 12-13-06 06:10 PM

The book was not awful. It was pretty good. True, it was written by a 17 year old kid, and he happened to have some connections. But, by the same token, a publishing company NOT run by his folks picked up the book and the rest of the trilogy, so they must have seen something appealing about the story.

Also, a lot of stories are technically ripoffs of other stories. The Harry Potter mythos is straight out of Star Wars. Star Wars is straight out of Seven Samurai. Seven Samurai was straight out of Shakespear. There is precious little in original stories. As General Disarray so aptly put it, "Simpsons did it!"

As juvenile as some of the writing in Eragon is, it is still a fun read.

It's just a shame that the movie is getting such terrible buzz.

Nuff 12-14-06 01:43 PM

Would the original poster (or anyone else who has seen it) mind sharing some of the larger differences from the book to movie in spoiler tags?

ScandalUMD 12-14-06 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by milo bloom
You know, if it was a horrible book, it could've gotten published by the kid's parent's, and even made a dent the first week in sales from the publicity push, but I don't think it would have sold so well, or have gotten a movie deal if there weren't some folks out there enjoyed it and told others.

We're not talking about videogames where it can get panned in the mags, but little Johnny sees his favorite franchise on a videogame cover at the store and he has to have it. Books are a much harder sell, esp to kids.

It's been awhile since I read this, but I don't remember it being awful. It was certainly no LOTR, or even Harry Potter, but I don't remember wanting to gouge my eyes out.

As for the movie, sounds like we'll be seeing an extended DVD down the road, I can wait for that.

The movie deal was based on studios snapping up popular fantasy-themed stuff, hoping for another LotR or Narnia. The outside publisher is based entirely on the parents' connection and tireless promotion, coupled with the hook of a kid writer.

The publishing industry rewards the untalented even more than the music or movie industry. Even porn stars get book deals!

And it is awful. I don't even have to read it to know it's awful. He took the word "Dragon" moved the first letter of the word one up in the alphabet, and that's his title. That's pretty much a working definition of awful.

porieux 12-14-06 05:23 PM

hehe

fujishig 12-14-06 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by ScandalUMD

And it is awful. I don't even have to read it to know it's awful. He took the word "Dragon" moved the first letter of the word one up in the alphabet, and that's his title. That's pretty much a working definition of awful.

You don't even have to read it to know it's awful? Because of the title of the book?

harpo787 12-14-06 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by fujishig
You don't even have to read it to know it's awful? Because of the title of the book?


Welcome to the internet. Clearly one CAN judge a book by it's cover, and the internet is the KING of "shoot first ask questions" mentality of reviewing things.

NOTE: Star Wars is stupid because of it's title. A war, in the stars? Star Wars! BRILLIANT! (Where's the Guiness guy when you need him?)
;)

kvrdave 12-14-06 05:36 PM

I saw the cover and judged it to be awful as well.

harpo787 12-14-06 05:55 PM

See?!? rotfl

Dalvin 12-14-06 08:33 PM

The movie is suppose to have an extended cut when it comes out on DVD(a la Narnia, Lord of the Rings). There was a full hour that was cut out to make this in at the running time (1hour 39 minutes). Adding in a full hour, and fleshing out the ending of the story would do wonders to the story. BTW, I loved the book, but then again, I love reading anything Narnia, LOTR, Star Wars related. I still will see it, but lets hope it does do somewhat well, so we can all get the Extended Cut with the 1 hour put back in.

mllefoo 12-14-06 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by ScandalUMD
The movie deal was based on studios snapping up popular fantasy-themed stuff, hoping for another LotR or Narnia. The outside publisher is based entirely on the parents' connection and tireless promotion, coupled with the hook of a kid writer.

The publishing industry rewards the untalented even more than the music or movie industry. Even porn stars get book deals!

And it is awful. I don't even have to read it to know it's awful. He took the word "Dragon" moved the first letter of the word one up in the alphabet, and that's his title. That's pretty much a working definition of awful.

Jealous much? You have quite a talent to be able to have an opinion on something you haven't read.

RocShemp 12-14-06 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by Dalvin
The movie is suppose to have an extended cut when it comes out on DVD(a la Narnia, Lord of the Rings). There was a full hour that was cut out to make this in at the running time (1hour 39 minutes). Adding in a full hour, and fleshing out the ending of the story would do wonders to the story. BTW, I loved the book, but then again, I love reading anything Narnia, LOTR, Star Wars related. I still will see it, but lets hope it does do somewhat well, so we can all get the Extended Cut with the 1 hour put back in.

Why cut out an hour? With films like The Prestige, Superman Returns and Batman Begins doing well, I think audiences can handle 2+ hour movies.

I've never read the books but I've heard they're entertaining enough and the trailers, although not the best, make it seem like passable entertainment so I still may give it a shot, despite such bad press. Maybe a matinee.

Brent L 12-14-06 11:49 PM

It's sitting at 10% on RottenTomatoes right now, with:

Fresh: 3 Rotten: 27

One less flick for me to pay to see in the theater I guess. :)

RichC2 12-14-06 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by RocShemp
Why cut out an hour? With films like The Prestige, Superman Returns and Batman Begins doing well, I think audiences can handle 2+ hour movies.

I've never read the books but I've heard they're entertaining enough and the trailers, although not the best, make it seem like passable entertainment so I still may give it a shot, despite such bad press. Maybe a matinee.

Let's not forget it's direct comparisons: Narnia, LotR, and Inland Empire are all long ass movies.

Dalvin 12-15-06 09:04 AM

I believe the studio felt that if it were at a shorter running time, that would mean more audiences would be able to see the flick, which in turn would make the compnay more money, since it could be shown more.


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