My Horror Films Rant
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First of all, people don't "compare" Eli Roth to Quentin Tarantino. Roth and Tarantino are often associated with each other because Tarantino was the executive producer of "Hostel."
Tarantino is a big fan of exploitation horror, it is a clear influence in his work and he seems to be enthusiastic about promoting it. Everyone knows Quentin is working on more ambitious projects than Eli Roth, but Tarantino's collaboration with Robert Rodriguez "From Dusk 'Til Dawn" was somewhere in that "Hostel" millieu.
Second, exploitation horror is not a new thing. It was very prevalent in the 70s and 80s, and back then, they really used to revel in their gross-out prosthetics, with lingering, well-lit shots, whereas today, they use dark, dingy settings and quick shock-cuts. "Dead Alive" featured a character getting ripped in half and disemboweled, but that was basically just a set up for a very elaborate fart joke.
I think the big difference today is that horror movies are very oppressive and unrelenting, whereas the old-school exploitation films tended to play the gore for laughs, or at least used gags to cut the tension. I'd blame this more on "Silence of the Lambs" than "Hannibal." I think that's where you have to trace the tendency of horror movies to take themselves very seriously.
"Dead Alive" featured a character getting ripped in half and disemboweled, but that was basically just a set up for a very elaborate fart joke. Now, you're more likely to see a few split-second shock cuts of the guts splattered all over a dark room and a rookie cop puking or crying in the hallway outside.
Tarantino is a big fan of exploitation horror, it is a clear influence in his work and he seems to be enthusiastic about promoting it. Everyone knows Quentin is working on more ambitious projects than Eli Roth, but Tarantino's collaboration with Robert Rodriguez "From Dusk 'Til Dawn" was somewhere in that "Hostel" millieu.
Second, exploitation horror is not a new thing. It was very prevalent in the 70s and 80s, and back then, they really used to revel in their gross-out prosthetics, with lingering, well-lit shots, whereas today, they use dark, dingy settings and quick shock-cuts. "Dead Alive" featured a character getting ripped in half and disemboweled, but that was basically just a set up for a very elaborate fart joke.
I think the big difference today is that horror movies are very oppressive and unrelenting, whereas the old-school exploitation films tended to play the gore for laughs, or at least used gags to cut the tension. I'd blame this more on "Silence of the Lambs" than "Hannibal." I think that's where you have to trace the tendency of horror movies to take themselves very seriously.
"Dead Alive" featured a character getting ripped in half and disemboweled, but that was basically just a set up for a very elaborate fart joke. Now, you're more likely to see a few split-second shock cuts of the guts splattered all over a dark room and a rookie cop puking or crying in the hallway outside.
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Originally Posted by Panda Phil
And I'm really screwed since like most of the posters I'm bored by gore and slasher flicks. I really a good, suspenseful supernatural horror, and those are just rare as hell. If it doesn't leave a lasting impression (like BWP or Hellraiser), I'm not really interested.
The only real exception is an obscure little film called The Last Broadcast. Ultra low budget film that was just eerie as hell.
Problem is that most of these films are aimed at the 16-24 yr old crowd, who are looking for basically a thrill ride rather than something that they have to think about.
The only real exception is an obscure little film called The Last Broadcast. Ultra low budget film that was just eerie as hell.
Problem is that most of these films are aimed at the 16-24 yr old crowd, who are looking for basically a thrill ride rather than something that they have to think about.
In terms of gore, I find it doesn't do much for me. Even the so called "extreme" movies like a Murder Set Pieces or Scrapbook don't really mess with my head.
If you don't mind some surreal stuff, Visions of Suffering is a pretty crazy arthouse horror. A Russian movie that you can get on Unearthed Films in the US
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Originally Posted by ScandalUMD
First of all, people don't "compare" Eli Roth to Quentin Tarantino. Roth and Tarantino are often associated with each other because Tarantino was the executive producer of "Hostel."
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Originally Posted by splattii
If you don't mind some surreal stuff, Visions of Suffering is a pretty crazy arthouse horror. A Russian movie that you can get on Unearthed Films in the US
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splattii - Thanks fro the recomendation man. I'll see if I can track that down.
There are a couple more films I'll add to my list. 'Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer never fails to give me the shivers, especially the videotape dhome invasion scene. A little slice of hell right there.
Also, most zombie films really get to me. Especially the recent Dawn of the Dead remake. For some reason though Day of the Dead creeps me out the most. I think it has a lot to do woth the musical score of all things.
There are a couple more films I'll add to my list. 'Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer never fails to give me the shivers, especially the videotape dhome invasion scene. A little slice of hell right there.
Also, most zombie films really get to me. Especially the recent Dawn of the Dead remake. For some reason though Day of the Dead creeps me out the most. I think it has a lot to do woth the musical score of all things.




