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true the script needs to leave the love cheese fest at home but i am sorry... that kid ruined the movie even more...

rosenbaum is an awesome Lex....

I'm looking forward to more "fun" as Superman Returns was a big let down for me. I enjoyed the first 30 mins but it was all downhill from that point.

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin

Last I checked a comic wasn't a movie. ;) For the vast movie going public it is new to them.

Last I checked, a TV show wasn't a movie either. :p

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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt

God help us all!

In their defence, how much of their script for Transformers was forced by higher powers. They wrote some good stuff when they wrote for Alias and I thought MI-3 (which was also theirs) was well done.

MI3 was very underrated.

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Originally Posted by Numanoid

Last I checked, a TV show wasn't a movie either. :p

Keep reading wiseass ;)

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin

At the very least it is a better attempt at a different version of Lex that we haven't seen on screen before.

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Originally Posted by mverleg1

In their defence, how much of their script for Transformers was forced by higher powers. They wrote some good stuff when they wrote for Alias and I thought MI-3 (which was also theirs) was well done.

Fair enough. I didn't know they did MI3...I liked that quite a bit.

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Originally Posted by mverleg1

In their defence, how much of their script for Transformers was forced by higher powers. They wrote some good stuff when they wrote for Alias and I thought MI-3 (which was also theirs) was well done.

MI3 was good. It was definitely overshadowed by Cruise's off the screen antics.

And you say "How much of their script for Transformers was forced by higher powers" ...... if that's the case, it makes me wonder while writing for a big time popcorn movie like Superman, how much will the higher-ups force their hand on this one?

Rachel MacAdams as Lois = Genius. I can't say i'm looking forward to the sequel though.

Please god NOT Rachel MacAdams. I can't stand her.

If Routh didn't still look like he was twelve I'd still toss out Kristen Davis. I still think she would be a perfect Lois(looks, attitude, overall demeanor, etc). Unfortunately she'd look twice Routh's age.

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Originally Posted by Suprmallet

Please god NOT Rachel MacAdams. I can't stand her.

Agreed. She looks too much like my ex wife.

I think the least of SR's problems was the cast. Everyone was pretty damn good in their roles. I was surprised how much I liked McAdams.

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Originally Posted by Drop

I think the least of SR's problems was the cast. Everyone was pretty damn good in their roles. I was surprised how much I liked McAdams.

MacAdams wasn't in SR. Kate Bosworth was Lois Lane and I have to agree that she didn't have the spunk that Margot Kidder, Teri Hatcher, and Erica Durance all brought to the role. Maybe it's because she was supposed to be an older and more mature Lois Lane, but if that was their intent, they shot themselves in the foot by casting such a young actress.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema

Isn't Rosenbaum's Lex based off the comics, as a businessman who becomes a corrupt Politician?

Maybe I'm missing the creativity, but I don't see anything new that he's brought to a character that was already well established in the comics.

It depends on what era of DC Comics you are talking about. In the pre-Crisis era of DC Comics, Lex was a mad scientist. The original Christopher Reeve movies are based on this era.

In 1985, there was a DC Comics event called "Crisis on Infinite Earths." It resulted in DC comics being rebooted. All characters were given new origins and histories and such. This was when the "Year One" stories were written (like Frank Miller's infamous Batman: Year One which inspired the Batman Begins movie.)

In the reboot, Lex was no longer a mad scientist. He is now a businessman and multimillionaire and later a politician. He also was President of the US for awhile... The post-Crisis Lex is the one Rosenbaum's Lex is based on.

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Originally Posted by Cartload

True (I always confuse them), well either way I was fine with Bosworth. Watching the old films, I didn't care much for Kidder, she wasn't bad but she never did anything for me. She had spunk sure, but I never really liked her Lois. I wasn't in love with Bosworth, but she was good enough, there was enough spunk there, but I think the problem lay within the writing of her character.

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Originally Posted by Drop

I think there was an undeniable chemistry between Reeve and Kidder whereas Routh and Bosworth didn't exactly set the screen on fire. Of course, I am open to the fact that it could have been a fault with the writing (Lois having a kid, being engaged to another man, etc...).

Don't count me in as a SR hater though. I liked the movie, but if they did replace Bosworth, I wouldn't be too broken up about it.

I like Superman Returns but they should have not make it with too much lovey dovey crap. Plus the kid was cute, but being superman's son, etc I didn't like the plot. I wish it was more darker. Like Superman kicking ass the way he did in Superman II.

I hope for the 2nd installment they make him fight bad villains. I think bosworth is a cutie and I don't mind her back in the sequel.

Looks only get you so far. Kidder had spunk and great Chemistry with Reeve. Bosworth had looks but no spunk or chemistry with Routh.

I've watched SR probably 8 or 10 times now, and I have to admit that it took a few viewings for Bosworth to grow on me. She does a lot of her acting with very subtle eye and face movements, and I really learned to appreciate her style after a while. After the first couple of viewings, I was hoping that she'd be replaced, but now I hope that she isn't.

Yeah, it'll have been four yrs (assuming this comes out in 2010), so I'd look for both of them to be better. I'd opt for continuity at this point, so I hope the main cast is back.

There's a new snag:

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Warner vexed by legal Man of Steel
Lawyer Toberoff dings Superman
By DIANE GARRETT

'Superman Returns'

He's a superhero to rights holders -- but Kryptonite to studios.

Last week, attorney Marc Toberoff won a potentially costly "Superman" victory against Warner Bros. for co-creator Jerome Siegel's heirs. The federal ruling, which gives the heirs a stake in rights sold 71 years ago, could put a serious crimp on future plans for one of the studio's most enduring -- and lucrative -- franchises, especially if co-creator Joe Shuster's heirs follow suit in five years, when they are eligible to do so.

As it is, the studio has at least two Superman projects in development -- a follow-up to Bryan Singer's "Superman Returns" and "Justice League" -- and it may end up paying tens of millions from the domestic haul of "Superman Returns" to Siegel's heirs under the ruling, which applies to domestic monies for Superman projects since 1999.

The case is Toberoff's latest -- and potentially most damaging -- claim against the studio. The dedicated copyright crusader has pursued claims involving "Wild Wild West," "Dukes of Hazzard," "Smallville" and the upcoming "Get Smart."

He has gone after other studios, including Sony, but his most high-profile cases -- and victories -- have involved Warners. The studio paid "Moonrunners" producer Robert B. Clark a $17.5 million settlement in a case about similarities between that 1974 movie and the bigscreen "The Dukes of Hazzard." And a federal judge ruled earlier in the Siegels' favor over "Smallville," although that was challenged and the case still being resolved.

The studio declined to comment on the latest ruling in favor of their legal nemesis, issuing only a statement noting that, "substantial issues relating to the accounting of profits were ruled in our favor."

Among these issues: international profits, trademark-related revs and profits stemming from Superman fare produced before 1999, when Siegel's heirs terminated the earlier copyright arrangement under a 1976 law.

To the Siegels, Toberoff's legal maneuvers are nothing short of heroic. The family had been destitute for years after Siegel sold rights to his Man of Steel to Detective Comics for $130. DC Comics had started to pony up more monies after Warners made successful movies based on the character, but Siegel had long wished to redress the fact he had gotten so little from his creation; he died in 1996.

Toberoff has set up a production company, Intellectual Properties Worldwide, to develop films around these and other titles. And he has built up a sideline business producing bigscreen adaptations of the projects whose copyright claims he pursues. He has a producing credit on "Fantasy Island," a Sony project for Eddie Murphy, as well as "Sanford and Son."

http://www.variety.com/VR1117983184.html

If I ever want to sue Warner Bros., I know who to contact.

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Originally Posted by Numanoid

I agree.

Compare Bosworth's performance to say, Natalie Portman's from the STAR WARS movies, and there's a world of difference. I have a feeling that those who disliked Bosworth did so based on her youth than anything else. Her scene on the Daily Planet rooftop was convincing, and at no point was any of her lines poorly delivered. I had no trouble seeing her as the iconic Lois Lane.

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Originally Posted by The Valeyard

There's a new snag:

http://www.variety.com/VR1117983184.html

The story of Siegel and Shuster being destitute as a result of the comics business is more than a bit exaggerated. Back in the 1930s, Siegel was very successful in comics publishing and was worth - in today's dollars - many millions before he and Shuster created Superman. How Siegel lost his money is never discussed, but it wasn't necessarily due to losing the rights to the Man of Steel to DC.

But that's a whole other story. THE COMICS JOURNAL did an excellent article on Siegel and Shuster years ago.