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Old 08-10-06 | 05:23 PM
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Mob? They weren't even human. Vincent and Jules were Lloiger and Marsellus was a renegade Arch-angel who had successfully captured God in a suitcase. Lloiger are of a completely different persuasion than Angels and Demons. They serve of their own volition and usually as part of a bargain or debt. Obviously Jules servitude was of the latter and he could renege on the bargain at whim.

This was a very allegorical movie, but it becomes clearer on weed.

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Old 08-10-06 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kudama
This was a very allegorical movie, but it becomes clearer on weed.


A lot of things do my friend!
Old 08-10-06 | 07:37 PM
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So why is it that when The Bride gets out of the Divas she gets whacked, but when O-ren and Budd and Vernita leave, they're left alone?
Old 08-10-06 | 09:25 PM
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So why is it that when The Bride gets out of the Divas she gets whacked, but when O-ren and Budd and Vernita leave, they're left alone?
Different film and it's the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad, not the Divas, but...

Beatrix got whacked because she ran out on Bill, disappearing like she was dead, and breaking Bill's heart. At some point later the Squad broke up, because Elle was the only one still hanging around Bill, as his lover. O-ren became head of the Yakuza with Bill's support. Vernita started a new life presumably with Bill's blessing. Budd's Bill's brother, and blood's blood, no matter how bad they piss you off.
Old 08-10-06 | 09:42 PM
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Mobsters? they were hitmen. Hitmen pick their jobs and work for whomever employs them and most of all, whomever they feel like working with. I'm sure they could have left the life whenever they wanted. It's just a damn sweet life to leave.
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Re: PULP FICTION - how can you simply "leave the life?" ***SPOILERS***

Old 11-03-13 | 09:01 PM
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Re: PULP FICTION - how can you simply "leave the life?" ***SPOILERS***

Originally Posted by Jay G.
Different film and it's the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad, not the Divas, but...
I know this is 7 years later but they were abbreviated as "DeVAS" in the movie, so he's kinda correct.
Old 11-03-13 | 09:24 PM
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Re: PULP FICTION - how can you simply "leave the life?" ***SPOILERS***

Kudama got banned? Well I'll be...
Old 11-04-13 | 12:16 AM
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Re: PULP FICTION - how can you simply "leave the life?" ***SPOILERS***

Originally Posted by Nesbit
I don't believe that this is an intended message of the film. Although Jules does leave and (presumably) live while Vincent dies there are several other people in the film who perform evil deeds or live evil lives that walk away happy. If Jules had asked Vincent if he wanted to walk the Earth with him I could see your point.
While not everyone who does bad things (in fact, most people who do bad things) in the film get their comeuppance, it seems clear from the Jules and Vincent scene in the diner that Jules warns Vincent that they had been given a sign from god, and they have to stop killing people, otherwise there will be consequences.
Old 11-04-13 | 07:42 AM
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Re: PULP FICTION - how can you simply "leave the life?" ***SPOILERS***

Originally Posted by Supermallet
While not everyone who does bad things (in fact, most people who do bad things) in the film get their comeuppance, it seems clear from the Jules and Vincent scene in the diner that Jules warns Vincent that they had been given a sign from god, and they have to stop killing people, otherwise there will be consequences.
And there were. Vincent Vega gets clipped by Butch.
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Re: PULP FICTION - how can you simply "leave the life?" ***SPOILERS***

Personally, I always thought the "holy grail" chalice was in the suitcase.
Old 11-04-13 | 08:59 AM
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Re: PULP FICTION - how can you simply "leave the life?" ***SPOILERS***

Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
Personally, I always thought the "holy grail" chalice was in the suitcase.
http://www.snopes.com/movies/films/p...y8vHCDtjGzI.99

Originally the briefcase contained diamonds. But that just seemed too boring and predictable. So it was decided that the contents of the briefcase were never to be seen. This way each audience member would fill in the blank with their own ultimate contents. All you were supposed to know was that it was "so beautiful." No prop master can come up with something better than each individual's imagination. At least that was the original idea. Then somebody had the bright idea (which I think was a mistake) of putting an orange lightbulb in there. Suddenly what could have been anything became anything supernatural. Didn't need to push the effect. People would have debated it for years anyway, and it would have been much more subtle. I can't believe I'm actually talking about being subtle.

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Old 11-04-13 | 03:14 PM
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Re: PULP FICTION - how can you simply "leave the life?" ***SPOILERS***

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And there were. Vincent Vega gets clipped by Butch.
Wait wait wait.... Vincent Vega doesn't get clipped, if you watch closely he walks out of the restaurant alive and well at the end of the movie.
Old 11-04-13 | 03:28 PM
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Re: PULP FICTION - how can you simply "leave the life?" ***SPOILERS***

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Wait wait wait.... Vincent Vega doesn't get clipped, if you watch closely he walks out of the restaurant alive and well at the end of the movie.
Old 11-04-13 | 03:29 PM
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Re: PULP FICTION - how can you simply "leave the life?" ***SPOILERS***

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Wait wait wait.... Vincent Vega doesn't get clipped, if you watch closely he walks out of the restaurant alive and well at the end of the movie.
That's Castor Troy with Vicent Vega's face.
Old 11-04-13 | 05:36 PM
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Re: PULP FICTION - how can you simply "leave the life?" ***SPOILERS***

Originally Posted by Buttmunker
(not getting shot by Seinfeld's "hand-cannon").
is this a joke? dont u mean arquette?
Old 11-04-13 | 06:32 PM
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Re: PULP FICTION - how can you simply "leave the life?" ***SPOILERS***

Originally Posted by JZ1276
is this a joke? dont u mean arquette?
Alexis Arquette looks a little like Seinfeld.
Old 11-05-13 | 07:31 AM
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Re: PULP FICTION - how can you simply "leave the life?" ***SPOILERS***

Yeah, it's kind of an old joke. The character wasn't named and people started calling him Seinfeld.

Old 11-05-13 | 07:43 AM
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Re: PULP FICTION - how can you simply "leave the life?" ***SPOILERS***

Originally Posted by mike7162
It's not really a mob is it? My impression is that they're a tiny syndicate of low level criminals, with a few ties, if needed (a la Mr Wolf) to the larger element.
This is the correct answer. It's not the mafia, it's a syndicate with hired guns. Jules is just a hired gun.
Old 11-06-13 | 10:24 PM
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Re: PULP FICTION - how can you simply "leave the life?" ***SPOILERS***

Originally Posted by JZ1276
is this a joke? dont u mean arquette?
No, Arquette doesn't have a "hand cannon" anymore.

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