Children Of Men (merged/spoilers)
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Originally Posted by f1shf00d
I just saw this and a question: at one point in the movie, Clive Owen seems to really hurt his foot and the continues to limp throughout the movie....either it's really good continuity or he really got hurt during the shoot....does anyone know if he really hurt his foot? ....
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interesting to see this discussion is so political. I have a lot of "why" questions on here that I'm not sure are political. I hope this doesn't give away too much, but I was wondering why you think (or how the movie validated) that most characters were almost entirely inhumane, while a few were extremely humane.
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Went to see it this afternoon, I thought it was pretty good. Slow starting but got pretty good, One I dont need to see again, but I liked it, Didnt expect all the graphic violence though. 8/10
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Just saw this on IMDB regarding the combat scene we were talking about earlier.
http://www.accessatlanta.com/movies/content/movies/stories/2006/12/28/1229MMscene.html
I wondered if this was the case.
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I wondered if this was the case.
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the blood disapears in the car scene too.
also all the people on the road seem to disapear when the camera pans back infront of the car but i guess they went a lot farther down the road.
also all the people on the road seem to disapear when the camera pans back infront of the car but i guess they went a lot farther down the road.
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I caught that, but we don't know if that was choreographed in the action sequence, or something that happened while filming (since we don't know if everything was filmed in sequence or out of sequence depending on what type of setup was needed to get the shots).
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Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
I had some huge problems with the movie which I think might have ruined my enjoyment of it
Help me clear these up
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Help me clear these up
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Did they say that?
BTW, I LIKED the fact that it showed that the govmnt AND the rebels were BOTH EVIL, it just was soo incredibly confusing to just why the government was actually bad.
BTW, any woman who appeared out of the blue with a baby would be eximined by every doctor in the world, so the thought that the government would give away her baby is RETARDED.
ALSO, why would Kee's baby invalidate thier immigration policy? One illigal has a baby, and all of a sudden theres gonna be public outcry to admit 3 billion refugees?
And Clive owens decision making was confusing too, he could have called Caines press buddies as soon as he got to the house, but instead risks the life of the only baby on earth so that it can be raised on a boat?!?!?!?!?!
BTW, I LIKED the fact that it showed that the govmnt AND the rebels were BOTH EVIL, it just was soo incredibly confusing to just why the government was actually bad.
BTW, any woman who appeared out of the blue with a baby would be eximined by every doctor in the world, so the thought that the government would give away her baby is RETARDED.
ALSO, why would Kee's baby invalidate thier immigration policy? One illigal has a baby, and all of a sudden theres gonna be public outcry to admit 3 billion refugees?
And Clive owens decision making was confusing too, he could have called Caines press buddies as soon as he got to the house, but instead risks the life of the only baby on earth so that it can be raised on a boat?!?!?!?!?!
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Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
Did they say that?
BTW, I LIKED the fact that it showed that the govmnt AND the rebels were BOTH EVIL, it just was soo incredibly confusing to just why the government was actually bad.
BTW, any woman who appeared out of the blue with a baby would be eximined by every doctor in the world, so the thought that the government would give away her baby is RETARDED.
ALSO, why would Kee's baby invalidate thier immigration policy? One illigal has a baby, and all of a sudden theres gonna be public outcry to admit 3 billion refugees?
And Clive owens decision making was confusing too, he could have called Caines press buddies as soon as he got to the house, but instead risks the life of the only baby on earth so that it can be raised on a boat?!?!?!?!?!
BTW, I LIKED the fact that it showed that the govmnt AND the rebels were BOTH EVIL, it just was soo incredibly confusing to just why the government was actually bad.
BTW, any woman who appeared out of the blue with a baby would be eximined by every doctor in the world, so the thought that the government would give away her baby is RETARDED.
ALSO, why would Kee's baby invalidate thier immigration policy? One illigal has a baby, and all of a sudden theres gonna be public outcry to admit 3 billion refugees?
And Clive owens decision making was confusing too, he could have called Caines press buddies as soon as he got to the house, but instead risks the life of the only baby on earth so that it can be raised on a boat?!?!?!?!?!
Also, I don't remember there being a mention of any doctor or scientist at all. After all, why do you need a doctor if you're going to die anyway and there's no future. I'm sure most scientists all left to go to the Human Project.
I'm going to assume that Caine's house didn't even have a phone. I believe he was under persecution by the government and/or other groups, that's why his house was in the middle of nowhere and he always watched the skies.
I agree the plot isn't 100% foolproof. But I also believe it doesn't need to be. The problem is that this is basically an action-thriller but because it's so well done and so smart, we don't apply the suspension of disbelief to it as much.
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my main arguments against the plot, not a wish list, but from what the movie told me (and it's easier to say this in conversation than it is to write it -succinctly-):
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Saw this yesterday. Very powerful movie. I kind of got a 28 Days Later vibe from the movie.
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This movie is just as good the second time around and it moves faster. At least it did for me; it seemed slower the first time, mostly because my jaw dropped about 2 minutes in and never came back up.
Now, I have a perfect counterargument against one of your main issues with the plot:
Now, I have a perfect counterargument against one of your main issues with the plot:
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Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
True, but then why did Clive Owen buy into it?
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saw this this afternoon. very powerful and well done movie. really enjoyed myself, definitely a thinking movie. it was interesting that everyone was trying to steal the baby besides the military troops and the entire movie they were portrayed as the bad guys.
caine playing an out there hippie type personality was pretty funny too.
caine playing an out there hippie type personality was pretty funny too.
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I saw this movie three times, each time it got better and I was still catching new things the third time. I successfully convinced three chinese kids to see this instead of curse of the golden flower I did my job this weekend
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Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
Did they say that?
BTW, I LIKED the fact that it showed that the govmnt AND the rebels were BOTH EVIL, it just was soo incredibly confusing to just why the government was actually bad.
BTW, any woman who appeared out of the blue with a baby would be eximined by every doctor in the world, so the thought that the government would give away her baby is RETARDED.
ALSO, why would Kee's baby invalidate thier immigration policy? One illigal has a baby, and all of a sudden theres gonna be public outcry to admit 3 billion refugees?
And Clive owens decision making was confusing too, he could have called Caines press buddies as soon as he got to the house, but instead risks the life of the only baby on earth so that it can be raised on a boat?!?!?!?!?!
I disagree with all of your issues with the film. If you really want answers to your questions, see the movie again. A lot of your problems are explained pretty well.
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Originally Posted by Draven
It was implied that London was the only city that was still functioning. The Human Project was a rogue group, and there wasn't going to be a medical convention on this subject. And with the celebrity status of Baby Diego, Dylan would have been the most popular person on the planet by far. Kee would never have seen her baby again.
at the beginning and why Owen's father-instincts kick in.
I liked the movie a lot, but my one complaint would be about how some of the religious imagery/symbolism got so heavy-handed.