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Seantn 06-08-06 05:50 PM

Alien vs Predator 2 is being directed by...
 
Two people. From Bloody-disgusting.com :

Confirmed on BrothersStrause.com: The rumor hit the web yesterday over at IGN, and today it was confirmed by Greg Strause himself that him and his brother, Colin, have signed with 20th Century Fox to direct Alien vs. Predator 2, according to Alien Experience. For those who aren't aware, the Strause brothers are most noted for their visual/special effects work on projects such as Titanic, Band of Brothers, Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, xXx: State of the Union, Mission: Impossible III, Poseidon and X-Men: The Last Stand. As directors, relatively speaking, Greg and Colin have limited first hand experience with music videos for the likes of Nickelback, Linkin Park, Godsmack and A Perfect Circle under their belts. Watch for official news in the coming week. The two major franchises will collide once again in August of 2007... maybe this time the Predator won't be such a *****.

Nesbit 06-08-06 05:51 PM

Wow that sucks. I hope the quality won't suffer at ... oh wait ... nevermind.

Corvin 06-08-06 05:53 PM

Isn't there some rule from some guild that says only one person can take credit for a film?

Artman 06-08-06 06:09 PM

Any inkling of anticipation I had has all but vanished...

devilshalo 06-08-06 06:12 PM

Why not just throw Spawn in there too?

Seantn 06-08-06 06:13 PM

I think the Farrelly brothers co-direct all their movies.

GuruTwo 06-08-06 06:18 PM


Isn't there some rule from some guild that says only one person can take credit for a film?
The rule that is currently in place (the one that prevented Robert Rodriguez from giving Frank Miller co-director credit on "Sin City") is there to prevent a director from getting saddled with another director after the fact. It's to prevent, say, a studio from hiring a cheaper director to come in and finish another director's film. That obviously wasn't what Frank Miller was going to do on "Sin City" but as far as the DGA is concerned "a rule is a rule" and they just wouldn't budge so Rodriguez left.

However, the DGA doesn't have a problem with the many co-directing teams working today as long as they've been working together from the beginning.

There are several examples. Most of them are brothers: Hughes, Farrelleys, Wachowskis and even the Coens, who shared a directing credit for the first time on "The Ladykillers".

Since the Brothers Strause have never done a feature before and they've always worked together in the past they'll have no problem working together in the future.

Anyways, I'm somewhat excited for this. In only a handful of music videos and commercials the Brothers Strause have already demonstrated much more directorial ability than Paul WS Anderson has over the course of 6 feature films.

DonnachaOne 06-08-06 06:24 PM

The Brothers Strause have made some beautiful videos. They're so good that they'll make you listen to Nickelback at least once.

DRG 06-08-06 06:35 PM

Well, if they deliver the great AvP film that Paul WS couldn't then they will be heroes and have an instant following. So here's to hoping they are taking this seriously. David Fincher and Spike Jonze directed videos at first as well, so I will keep my fingers crossed that isn't a bad sign... It would be nice if Fox gave this to a *good* experienced director, but I suppose this might not be the worst. We'll see.

Joe Molotov 06-08-06 06:36 PM

There's also the Hughes Brothers, who directed Menace II Society & From Hell.

DonnachaOne 06-08-06 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Molotov
There's also the Hughes Brothers, who directed Menace II Society & From Hell.

Just a couple of posts above you, man.

Joe Molotov 06-08-06 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by DonnachaOne
Just a couple of posts above you, man.

Ah, sorry. I saw your post, but for some reason, I thought you'd left them out.

Dash 06-08-06 08:10 PM

Well I guess AvP2 cant be any worse than the 1st. Its not like they can kill the franchise. Its not the directing as much as the writing that im worried about.

Supermallet 06-08-06 08:11 PM

I'll probably be suckered into seeing it in the theaters again, because this series has potential. It's just up to the studio to greenlight a script that realizes that potential.

Mr. Cinema 06-08-06 08:58 PM

I can't imagine this being any worse than the first vs movie. I'll still be there opening night.

Matthew Chmiel 06-08-06 09:07 PM

No offense, but this can't be as bad as Paul W.S. Anderson directing the flick.

Corvin 06-08-06 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by GuruTwo
However, the DGA doesn't have a problem with the many co-directing teams working today as long as they've been working together from the beginning.

There are several examples. Most of them are brothers: Hughes, Farrelleys, Wachowskis and even the Coens, who shared a directing credit for the first time on "The Ladykillers".

:thumbsup: Thanks for the clarification, GuruTwo.

And back on topic, I hated the first. Will I see the second? Doubtful. For that to happen it would have to be pretty awesome, butI don't expect that to be the case.

zero 06-08-06 11:16 PM

Hey at least it wasnt Uwe Bolle ;)

MartinBlank 06-08-06 11:49 PM

How about an R-rated film this time around?

Jackskeleton 06-09-06 12:23 AM

Well, I'm sure there's no way to make the train wreck any worse. I mean.. if the direction it was going is still the way it will go then nothing could save it other than burning it with fire.

Puzznic 06-09-06 01:23 AM

i would rather have an unproven director than a director that has proven to suck.

GuruTwo 06-09-06 01:28 AM

I wouldn't even mind a PG-13 theatrical release if they shot for an R-rated or unrated DVD release.

They slapped some horribly-done CGI blood that wouldn't have been impressive-looking in 1992 onto the gore-free footage from "AvP" for that "unrated" edition but it obviously came off as a big scam rather than the gorier version that everyone wanted.


i would rather have an unproven director than a director that has proven to suck.
With six features under his belt pre-"AvP" Paul WS Anderson was the most "accomplished" director of all the "Alien" and "Predator" directors but all the rest were relatively inexperienced, which is really saying something. Cameron, Hopkins and Jeunet had 2 films before they made their films, Scott and McTiernan only had one and Fincher, like the Brothers Strause had never made a feature.

This is a series where "inexperience" has paid off more than a larger filmography. Also, they have a background in commercials, music videos and special effects much like Ridley Scott, James Cameron and David Fincher.

Matthew Chmiel 06-09-06 04:13 AM


Originally Posted by GuruTwo
This is a series where "inexperience" has paid off more than a larger filmography.

One would disagree with the final products of the last two Alien sequels. ;)

Kant 06-09-06 05:16 AM

a glimmer of hope?

Brothers Strause Talk Alien vs. Predator 2
Source: Variety
June 8, 2006


Variety caught up with new Alien vs. Predator 2 directors Greg and Colin Strause who revealed what we can expect from the Fox sequel. "AVP2," written by Shane Salerno, is scheduled to begin shooting in September for an August 10, 2007 release.

"We really want to take it back to the original 'Alien' and 'Predator' films and make a serious, gritty horror film," Colin Strause said.

"We want to take it back to its roots, without losing sight of the human struggle," added Greg Strause. "That's what made the originals so good."

Davis Entertainment's John Davis and Robbie Brenner are producing. Davis Entertainment also produced the first film in the franchise, as well as "Predator" and "Predator 2."

Hmmm, we will see! Give us Alien 5 instead, with Ridley Scott instead!

Egon's Ghost 06-09-06 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by DRG
Well, if they deliver the great AvP film that Paul WS couldn't then they will be heroes and have an instant following

There is no great AvP that exists anywhere in ideaspace that could possibly be delivered by anybody.

needlz 06-09-06 04:09 PM

A "serious, gritty horror film" eh??? I'm ready . . . BRING IT!!!

Seantn 06-09-06 06:45 PM

I wonder if a PG-13 is written into their contract?

Supermallet 06-09-06 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by GuruTwo


With six features under his belt pre-"AvP" Paul WS Anderson was the most "accomplished" director of all the "Alien" and "Predator" directors but all the rest were relatively inexperienced, which is really saying something. Cameron, Hopkins and Jeunet had 2 films before they made their films, Scott and McTiernan only had one and Fincher, like the Brothers Strause had never made a feature.

This is a series where "inexperience" has paid off more than a larger filmography. Also, they have a background in commercials, music videos and special effects much like Ridley Scott, James Cameron and David Fincher.

What's crazy is that Cameron was signed to do Aliens before Terminator was even made. So that means Fox signed him on the basis of Pirahna 2: The Spawning.

Lt Ripley 06-09-06 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Kant

"We really want to take it back to the original 'Alien' and 'Predator' films and make a serious, gritty horror film," Colin Strause said.


Hmmm, we will see! Give us Alien 5 instead, with Ridley Scott instead!


As far as the Alien and Predator movies, the only one that was a gritty horror film was A L I E N. Sure Aliens was a bit creepy, but it was more of an action film to me, as well as Predator.

So they are finally going to make an Alien vs Predator movie. Interesting.

Also, if anyone was to make another Alien film, I would love to see Ridley take the helm again.

mndtrp 06-11-06 01:27 AM

I'll see it opening weekend, I'm sure.

Giantrobo 06-11-06 04:23 AM

Perhaps...we'll finally see FEMALE PREDATORS...

dhmac 06-11-06 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Perhaps...we'll finally see FEMALE PREDATORS...

How do you tell a difference?

SunMonkey 06-11-06 07:51 AM

Interesting. I'm looking forward to this now.

Giantrobo 06-11-06 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by dhmac
How do you tell a difference?



Female Predator

Supermallet 06-12-06 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by Lt Ripley
As far as the Alien and Predator movies, the only one that was a gritty horror film was A L I E N. Sure Aliens was a bit creepy, but it was more of an action film to me, as well as Predator.

Aliens has more suspense and scares in it than twenty horror movies today have. It's got plenty of action, I agree, but there is real terror in that film.


Originally Posted by Lt Ripley
So they are finally going to make an Alien vs Predator movie. Interesting.

You do know they already made one, right? It sucked balls, but they made it.


Originally Posted by Lt Ripley
Also, if anyone was to make another Alien film, I would love to see Ridley take the helm again.

I'm conflicted about the idea that Ridley Scott should revisit the series. One thing I always liked about the series is how each director put their stamp on it. Even when the results were less than spectacular (3) or flat out bad (4), it was cool to see a different take on the series, and the species. Ridley certainly made one of the best horror/sci-fi films ever with Alien, but he is so hit and miss that I don't think lightning would strike twice should he decide to do another one. And if they do make another one, please please PLEASE do not bring Sigourney Weaver back. She is the stone around the series' neck at this point. She was absolutely essential in the first three, but the fourth was the time to take the series somewhere else. Since they didn't, they should just ignore the fourth and make the fifth be a new start.

The Reaper 06-12-06 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Aliens has more suspense and scares in it than twenty horror movies today have. It's got plenty of action, I agree, but there is real terror in that film.

Right on, Suprmallet!

As for this film, I don't have high hopes. They're still going with that Salerno script, which means aliens and predators battling it out at a K-Mart in Texas. :rolleyes:

chanster 06-12-06 09:41 AM

Anybody that read the script review over aintitcoolnews a few months ago, knows this will be a turd.
I know they aint reliable, but it came from Moriarity, probably the most reliable poster over there. so I will give it the benefit of the doubt.

Two words: it sucks.

As for the quotes about making the movie - "make a serious, gritty horror film,"
How the hell can you make a serious, gritty horror film out of the AvP knockoff franchise? I mean the first movie was such a big wet fart on both the franchises.

Fincher Fan 06-12-06 10:24 AM

This is the sort of franchise where they can essentially restart each time. I'd like to see them just ignore the first one and concentrate on giving us the film we really want.

Giantrobo 06-12-06 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Fincher Fan
This is the sort of franchise where they can essentially restart each time. I'd like to see them just ignore the first one and concentrate on giving us the film we really want.


AVP BEGINS.... :up:

Kudama 06-12-06 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Kant
Hmmm, we will see! Give us Alien 5 instead, with Ridley Scott instead!

Ridley Scott peaked out with Alien and Blade Runner, just like Fincher peaked out with SE7EN and Fight Club. The dream there is over. (I only wish Chris Cunningham had been given the chance to peak with Neuromancer. :( )

As someone who despises Cameron's Aliens and is puzzled by how underrated Alien 3 seems to be and basically doesn't really think any of the franchise movies were worth a shit after Alien or Predator, I'm strangely looking forward to this. In fact IMO AvP was the best offering since the initial films. Difference being it turned out fun when I expected nothing at all.


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