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Agree'd, something seems wrong about going to see this right in the middle of summer. It loses any atmosphere it would have goin' in.
Personally, H20 was not that bad of a film. Now Resurrection on the other hand, that was a disaster. |
Whoa. That looked pretty good. I thought it was about the dumbest thing ever to try to remake too. Hm. I thought House of a 1000 Corpses was beyond terrible though and I'm not not that harsh usually. This looks promising.
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A Halloween movie hasn't been release in October for around 20 years -- logic serves no basis here.
Halloween '78 and Halloween: H20 were both released in August and they did better than any of the other ones. Yes, that's correct; the original film wasn't released in October either. The highest grossing Elm Street, Jason's highest grossing outing (F13 3 -- Part 1 doesn't count for Jason himself), and Freddy vs. Jason were all released in August. August is just a very good month for retro horror series. Halloween 5 was released in October and we all see how that turned out. |
Originally Posted by Slumbering Fist
The audience I saw Grindhouse with showed very little reaction to the new-Halloween trailer
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From Halloween's Myspace
Glad you all like the new Halloween teaser trailer. I know it doesn't show much, but that trailer was cut together by footage from the first 2 weeks of filming. It really doesn't show anything about the movie other than much chaos will happen. |
Originally Posted by AllHallowsEve
A Halloween movie hasn't been release in October for around 20 years -- logic serves no basis here.
Halloween '78 and Halloween: H20 were both released in August and they did better than any of the other ones. Yes, that's correct; the original film wasn't released in October either. Also, Halloween III was released on October 22, 1982, Halloween 4 was released on October 21, 1988 and as you already stated Halloween 5 was released in October.
Originally Posted by AllHallowsEve
The highest grossing Elm Street, Jason's highest grossing outing (F13 3 -- Part 1 doesn't count for Jason himself), and Freddy vs. Jason were all released in August.
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Originally Posted by DoubleDownAgain
Why?
What is up with all of Carpenter's classics being remade? I remember in some sort of behind the scenes doc for one of the prior remakes hearing John Carpenter sitting on the set as a producer saying "Make me some money!". That really irked me to see just how little he cares about the art of filmmaking these days.
Originally Posted by Slumbering Fist
The script was leaked online and the blurb/reviews I read said, apparently, the first part focuses on him as a kid and teen going nutso, being in the asylum (so there is more Loomis, more backstory on Mike’s evil development), and then the last half gets to big Mike breaking out and going on a rampage.
Originally Posted by KillerCannabis
I've been a huge Rob Zombie fan since '92 and I've always been behind anything he's done, but this still seems totally unecessary to me. People should be remaking bad films, not good ones and certainly not horror classics. The trailer would've looked amazing to me if Halloween had never existed until now. But it does. And this ain't it.
The funny thing is this is exactly the way I envisioned it looking in my head. And you just know he's going to try to make it more "extreme" and add unnecessary gore just for the sake of adding it. Needless to say, I'll be avoiding this one like a plague and totally refusing to acknowledge its existence. And just for the record, this is coming from a fan of both Zombie and Carpenter. |
Originally Posted by Indy Jones Fan
That's not correct. Halloween was released on October 25th, 1978 and Halloween II (those are the only 2 that really matter IMO) was released on October 30th, 1981.
Also, Halloween III was released on October 22, 1982, Halloween 4 was released on October 21, 1988 and as you already stated Halloween 5 was released in October. So what? Neither of those 2 franchises are Halloween (October) related. It's released when it is. You either want to see it or you don't. It's not a very difficult choice. I read somewhere that Halloween was released on Aug. 15th '78. That's why I said that. There's no need to come across as so whiny and combative. See it or don't. I'm really not concerned about your holiday viewing habits personally. It's been a couple decades since a Halloween film was released in October is the main point. The point of the other two series is that horror films tend to be financially viable in August -- moreso than October. Basically, an August release won't hurt this film financially if people want to see it. If people don't, it will bomb no matter if it comes out in August, October, or July. |
Originally Posted by Chad
$$$
Needless to say, I'll be avoiding this one like a plague and totally refusing to acknowledge its existence. And just for the record, this is coming from a fan of both Zombie and Carpenter. If you were solely a Halloween 1 fan, it would make sense. But it's odd that you believe this could possibly be any worse than those above films. It could equal their badness if it's really bad, but I doubt it could be worse. And you own the Texas Chainsaw Remake, so you can't be completely anti-remake. I'm confused... |
I agree. People think that Zombie will ruin the Myers character. Um...he's already been ruined! In Halloween 8 they had Michael Myers being yelled at and intimidated by Busta Rhymes. He screams at Myers to leave, and Michael actually walks away.
Also, Michael is controlled by a cult. Of course, that depends on which Halloween movie you're watching...Part 7 doesn't actually acknowledge the existence of 4,5, or 6. So really, how can the character or series get any more screwed up? It can't. In fact, by starting over, it can only go up. Even if it sucks. It'll be better than Halloween: Ressurection. |
Originally Posted by AllHallowsEve
I'm surprised you would avoid this considering you own such films as Jason X and Halloween: Resurrection. Not what I would expect at all.
If you were solely a Halloween 1 fan, it would make sense. But it's odd that you believe this could possibly be any worse than those above films. It could equal their badness if it's really bad, but I doubt it could be worse.
Originally Posted by Chad
I used to be somewhat of a completist, but I'm much better about it now. After purchasing the "Halloween: Resurrection" DVD, I finally woke up and realized just how insanely idiotic it really was to buy films that I don't even care for.
Originally Posted by AllHallowsEve
And you own the Texas Chainsaw Remake, so you can't be completely anti-remake.
I'm confused... And obviously I'm not completely anti-remake or I wouldn't own "John Carpenter's The Thing", "House of Wax" '59 (remake of "Mystery of the Wax Museum"), "The Omega Man" (remake of "The Last Man on Earth"). It's this recent remake trend I'm against of "re-imagining" the classics for today's "modern" audiences. What's the point? At least the aforementioned films had some originality and weren't just complete rehashes of the originals done solely for the money. Anything else I need to defend myself against? :p |
Originally Posted by Chad
I addressed the "Halloween: Resurrection" part in a recent thread:
And "Jason X" I'll admit to liking in a cheesy "so bad it's good" kinda way. In fact, there's quite a few other cheesy B-movies I like as well, but I really don't see what that has to do with disliking a remake of a genre classic? That was actually given to me as a birthday present back in '04 and I just never got rid of it....mostly because I'm a tin fanatic. But again, I'm gone on record saying I don't care for that one either. And obviously I'm not completely anti-remake or I wouldn't own "John Carpenter's The Thing", "House of Wax" '59 (remake of "Mystery of the Wax Museum"), "The Omega Man" (remake of "The Last Man on Earth"). It's this recent remake trend I'm against of "re-imagining" the classics for today's "modern" audiences. What's the point? At least the aforementioned films had some originality and weren't just complete rehashes of the originals done solely for the money. Anything else I need to defend myself against? :p ----------- Don't take that as a personal attack because it's not at all. It just seemed like one of those huh? moments. But since you collect tins and such, I suppose it makes more sense. Well, I think. Ah, I guess it doesn't really matter. What does Jason X has to do with it? Well, not much directly. I just think anyone willing to watch that would be open to anything no matter how terrible it could end up being. Not saying that Jason X was terrible (it was to me, but it's not the point); just saying that one had to have an open mind to give that a chance. No one did give it a chance judging from how much it made, so I'd just think someone as open minded would be open minded here too. Im not telling you that you should see this film. Im just explaining why it came across as "huh?" to me. |
Originally Posted by AllHallowsEve
There's no need to come across as so whiny and combative.
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Jason X is a damn fine B-film. It never tries to take itself series and anyone who does is missing the point of the film. Hell, it makes fun of the previous films.
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I'll check out the new Halloween. I can understand why people would be upset about remaking a classic, but I just try not to compare the two, even if it is essentially the same story.
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Originally Posted by Indy Jones Fan
:confused: I was just pointing out where you were (apparently unknowingly) incorrect.
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Don't forget his mother's a stripper and he TALKS in this one. I have read the leaked script can confirm (unless it was changed by Zombie after the leak) that Adult Michael w/ The Shape Mask does not speak. |
Before we get pissed let's be thankful that they didn't go hip-hop on this remake which they could have. They could have taken the HALLOWEEN theme and hip-hopd it and used a urban gehetto cast.
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Originally Posted by packaok
While it is true that his mother is a stripper, remember that 2/3 of this film will take place before he escapes the sanitarium. Therefore, it is natural for him to talk. I mean, I'm sure that the original Michael was not mute as a child.
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I'm pleasantly surprised. Sure trailer are meant to sell you the movie, so the movie could be either good or bad, but it sure looks pretty cool.
I'm there. Nothing can ruin Myers, like others have said, except the 1978 original negative being destroyed. Halloween 5-Resurrection kinda did anyway. I think most are bitchy because Zombie is a name and the first name to tackle this franchise sans Carpenter. Hey, atleast the music is there. |
Pretty effective trailer IMO. I'll see it.
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Originally Posted by wm lopez
They could have taken the HALLOWEEN theme and hip-hopd it and used a urban gehetto cast.
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I'm a RZ fan (and a Halloween fan) and I have high hopes. While it might not top the original I don't think he'll tarnish it. I believe he respects the movie too much to do that.
I'm looking forward to this... and hopefully it'll scare the crap out of me like the original did back in the theater. |
I'll go see this in theaters, but from what I've heard of the script I'm going in with low expectations.
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It can't. In fact, by starting over, it can only go up. Even if it sucks. It'll be better than Halloween: Ressurection. Besides, let's be honest. There is not a snowball's chance in hell this film will ever touch the original. So why bother remaking a film if you can't at least equal it, or better it in some way? Then again, I have no interest in anything Zombie does. But he should have left this one well enough alone. I believe he respects the movie too much to do that. |
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