Really? Couldn't tell.

;)

Oh, I'm sure I'll eventually see it on cable one night. That's about as much interest as I have. But only in a "morbid, wanting to see a car wreck" type of interest.

Have to say it now..anyone saying they will avoid Zombie's Halloween, while have wasted their time and lives watching all those incredibly inane sequels cannot be taken seriously.

:lol: Please! I just explained the difference. Besides, as I said before I'll eventually see it on cable just in searching for something to watch at night. That's how I saw all of the sequels except for the original, Halloween II and IV. I rented the fourth film. Hell, I've seen tons of shit films. But I can guarantee you I won't pay one red cent to watch it in theaters. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.

I can see why people would be ok with watching sequel after sequel and not ok with watching a straight-up remake of the original classic.

So if someone hates this idea, why spend time in this thread?

I'll certainly go to see it. I love the first film and at least two of the sequels are brilliant (2 and 4) so I'm excited for more Michael Myers. I liked the trailer, but I get a sense that the story is now taking place in the present??? That makes little sense to me if they're trying to give us a better understanding about the real Michael Myers and what led him to become the murderer that he was. The backstory needs to be a period piece if it's really going to work and fit with the rest of the series.

Link? Direct quote? I'm not saying you're wrong but I'm curious how you know his knowledge level of the character.

The movie supposedly takes place throughout the years 1978-1995. Laurie is a baby in '78 and is 17 years old during present day -- that's where I get '95 from.

It builds up from the past to the present.

But, the present day in this film does look 2007, so I'm not sure anymore.

It seems they are really emphasizing present day in the trailer too. Maybe changes were made and they placed more emphasis on present day.

Well, I some interviews with him on MTV's site. He was talking about how everything (the jumpsuit, the mask, etc) seemed to be coincidental and how his was going to be better because he was going to "explain" things in his flick. Of course, i'm paraphrasing and working from memory here, but that was the gist of it. (I'm pretty sure the link is somewhere in the other Halloween thread)

So could I. They may have (for better or worse) assassinated Michael's character in the sequels, but at least they weren't "straight-up remakes".

Isn't it true that Rob Zombie wasn't even originally going to use the Halloween theme?

Yeah, that's how I ended up finding those interviews. In fairness though, during the interview he never said he wasn't using it. He was very vague about it.

That's ambiguous. Many claim yes, but Zombie claims no. Some critics say it was true and Zombie changed it back after backlash from fans and the studio; Zombie says he intended on including it.

It's just a he said/she said argument and we may never know.

This film has been on shaky ground since it's inception. Between the protesters on set and the attempted site destruction by avid (psychotic?) internet fans along with the fan backlash, Rob has probably needed a bottle of Excedrin or ten throughout this process.

Seriously, this is the Star Wars fiasco of the horror world. None of the sequels, Freddy vs Jason, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake, etc., have seen the active backlash this film is getting.

The ironic part: it's not coming from the mainstream but from the horror community itself. There's a fear that this film will attract mainstream interest by a certain faction of fans. They are scared to death that this film will be successful.

If only they realized all their games are actually attracting the film more publicity.

I just found the interview where he claims that he intended to use the original music the entire time, but I also found the interview where he said in response to being asked if he would use the original theme, "I don't know, we'll see" and it sure is convincing to me that he really was thinking about not using the music at all.

In watching his interviews it's made me even more worried about this film. He doesn't come across as someone doing a remake where he has complete and total respect for the original.

If he wants complete and total power over a horror movie, if he wants to be able to do whatever it is he wants, he should've just, you know, put together a totally original film that didn't have anything at all to do with Halloween in the first place.

I don't know about everyone else, but to me Halloween is the horror film, my favorite one of all time and quite possibly the greatest of all time. I'll go see this remake, if everything looks solid once it's time for the release, but I'm not going to lie and say that I'm uncomfortable about it being produced in the first place. The fact that it's Rob Zombie directing doesn't help to set my mind at ease, since I didn't care for either of his previous films.

I'm in wait-and-see mode, I'm willing to give it a shot. That still doesn't mean that I'm happy about it though.

:)

His last two films weren't very successful, so he could have just grabbed on to this film to garner attention for himself by studios. If this film succeeds, he'll be offered more opportunties and jobs by studios.

It's highly unlikely this film won't make more money than his films did.

However, unless he knocks it out of the park and makes a decent film, his name won't really mean much for long. 95% of the people seeing this won't be doing so because he made it -- just as 99% of people didn't see H20 because Steve Miner made it.

It's in his best interest to try and make a good film -- no matter if he has respect for the material or not. Let's hope he does. If this film is too badly received, it could bury him. Taking on a project like this is a big gamble which could reap nice rewards or crush you.

I plan on seeing it, but it has nothing to do with Rob Zombie. I would have seen it if Ronny Yu directed (shudders)

Even that 95% might be a bit high. I can't imagine there being many people out there who would be watching this movie just because Rob Zombie is involved. Not to stereotype his fans, but wouldn't most of them be going to watch a Halloween movie anyway?

Rob Zombie's House of 1,000 Corpses only brought in $12.6 million, and The Devil's Rejects brought in $17 million. The last two Halloween movies pretty much doubled the totals for Rob Zombie's movies. I don't think there's a question that this remake of Halloween will make more than either of Rob's movies have made so far. Heck, just this one movie will more than likely make much more than both of his other two movies combined.

I just hope that the morons out there don't attribute the BO total to Rob Zombie himself, but you know that many people will.

Personally I think Halloween is the most overrated, annoying, and anticlimactic of all the major horror films. The sequences where the the Shape is going around town, and you don't know what he's going to do are some of the most suspenseful scenes in any genre. Those scenes alone declared John Carpenter as a singular directing talent. But the moment Myers starts killing people, the movie might as well be over. All the various killings are just mind numbingly boring. And don't get me started on how stupid it is that he keeps getting up over and over. I'd welcome a remake by anyone as intelligent as Rob Zombie. And while I hope he doesn't throw the baby out with the bathwater, I do hope this attracts a new audience and maybe can convince some people of the deficiencies in the original. I sure hope it gets knocked off its pedestal one of these days.

Looks alright but I am more interested in seeing David Arquette's "The Tripper" instead.

You don't need direct quotes. Just look at what he's doing with the character. He's turning him into a pathetic, cliched serial killer we've heard about a thousand times before. That is not the character that Carpenter created. Carpenter realized that the only way the original film would work so well is by keeping Myers and his motivations simple. Plus there are tons of other shit in the script that was making the rounds. He also turning this film into another one of his sick, demented exploitation flicks. The man is obviously a sick f*ck(in my humble opinion) who gets off and putting this shit on the screen.

From the script, there are the completely unecessary things you'd expect from Zombie. Since I can't do it any better, I'll quote a guy's post over at CHUD. He read the script. It was the first draft and it was the real deal.....not a fake script. It's the same one that was reviewed by Quint at AICN, the same one I read, and the same one Fangoria had.



Does that sound like Halloween to you? It doesn't to me. In fact, it's a total slap in the face to fans of the original and Carpenter's work. It's a shit bomb. It could be rewritten 10 times and still be turd. This film has nothing in common with the original except the basic plot and characters. That's it. But this is my opinion. Maybe I'm making a big deal of nothing. Others may be completely happy with what Zombie has done.

So in my opinion, while Zombie says he respects the original work, he really doesn't. He only cares about the original in so far as he gets to remake it in his vision. He doesn't have to make an exact duplicate as far as I'm concerned. But this is so over the top is ridiculous.

I will say a few positive things however. The casting of McDowell is inspired, even if he can't tote Pleasance's jock. The mask looks pretty damn good, even though I don't like the fact you can see Mane's eyes. One of the things that made the original mask so scary is you couldn't see his eyes. The last third of the film reads pretty good, even if it's a typical string of slasher kills.

Couldn't disagree more. Myers killings in the first film were far more exciting and visually arresting than in any of the typical slasher films except for maybe the original Nightmare On Elm Street. As for Zombie, there's nothing at all intelligent about his filmmaking. He will never make anything that even approaches Carpenter's defining work.

So, you're getting your panties in a wad over a FIRST DRAFT?

This is from Wiki: Rob Zombie later confirmed that the leaked draft is not the version being filmed, saying "Whatever version of the script that anyone ever read was so old and outdated that anything anyone ever commented on was so long gone or changed it wasn’t even worth commenting on."

Where'd the trailer go?

Weird...on Yahoo Movies it says "Trailer Removed"

:lol: Likely f*cking story. This guy has lied at every turn. He's told multiple versions of the "am I going to include the theme" story. I'll put it this way. Would you like to bet that most of the things in that list don't end up in the film? I'll make that bet. The trailer confirms a couple of those things already, such as the torturing pets, etc. This is Zombie we're talking about. At the end of the day, it's not going to make a big difference in my life one way or the other. Just a big fan of the original that hates to see a hack take a dump on Carpenter's original work. Of course I was also disappointed they even allowed a remake to happen, though not surprised by any means.

My wife loves the original, and we've seen every sequel during their theatrical releases. She will undoubtedly want to see the remake. I just won't tell her that Jamie Lee Curtis isn't in it. :)

I think a remake of Halloween in Rob Zombie mode is exactly what the turds going to movies deserve lately. All this torture porn horror is getting out of control.