Rob Zombie's Halloween -- remake (2007)
05-11-07, 08:33 PM
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Two sequels to follow Rob Zombie's "Halloween"
According to ComingSoon.net, Malcolm McDowell signed on for three films in the new Halloween franchise. No word on if Rob Zombie will be directing all three, but seems we can expect two more.
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05-11-07, 08:34 PM
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Just because an actor is signed on for sequels, it doesn't mean that he'll be in them. Mark Wahlberg was signed for more Planet of the Apes sequels, and those never happened.
However, i'm certain there will be at least 10 more Halloween films.
However, i'm certain there will be at least 10 more Halloween films.
05-11-07, 08:45 PM
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I'm cautiously optimistic for the movie itself; hated House of 1000 Corpses, loved The Devil's Rejects, not too hot on horror remakes. I'm hoping Rob Zombie's direction is a good one, and that it isn't an exact copy of the original and more a different spin on the Michael Myers universe.
Malcolm McDowell is way too criminally underrated as an actor. Not just Clockwork, but he kicks ass in O Lucky Man (I unfortunately have to see If... when the Criterion comes out...GO NETFLIX!) and Class of 1999. When I heard he was playing Loomis I got really excited.
Malcolm McDowell is way too criminally underrated as an actor. Not just Clockwork, but he kicks ass in O Lucky Man (I unfortunately have to see If... when the Criterion comes out...GO NETFLIX!) and Class of 1999. When I heard he was playing Loomis I got really excited.
05-12-07, 12:46 AM
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Considering the first go around brought us about 87 Halloween movies, It wouldn't shock me to see a sequel to Zombie's Halloween come out before the first one does.
05-12-07, 01:03 PM
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The more I immerse myself into the old franchise the more I am looking forward to this remake. It really could be stellar. And I'd love to see sequels, although it begs the question of where the franchise will go -- will there be further attempts to remake the original films in some way or are these new movies just going to branch out in some random new direction?
05-12-07, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by droidguy1119
The more I immerse myself into the old franchise the more I am looking forward to this remake. It really could be stellar. And I'd love to see sequels, although it begs the question of where the franchise will go -- will there be further attempts to remake the original films in some way or are these new movies just going to branch out in some random new direction?
I think everyone should take a step back and see if the first film works before hopping on the sequel bandwagon again. Sequels are what ruined these characters the first time.
I fall into the trap though. The anticipation and fandom is usually more interesting and exciting than the film itself. I've been through it with H20, Alien vs. Predator, and Freddy vs. Jason already.
05-12-07, 04:25 PM
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I will laugh my ass off if Zombie's take on the franchise fails (it might really be the nail in the coffin for The Weinstein Company) and the money already invested into the two sequels is wasted.
If the sequel does happen within the time allowed in the contract, he'll have to do it. Most of the studios, when making films that could enable a franchise, will usually contract the stars of the film for a specific amount of time if the film does take off and a sequel is greenlit. Planet of the Apes never had sequels, mostly due to the terrible word of mouth the first one received plus the unwillingness of Tim Burton to do sequels. All of the actors of Lost in Space were signed on for two sequels, but that flopped. All of the actors (except the adults) were contracted for a Sky High television show if the film was a hit. It happens a lot in the industry.
Originally Posted by Seantn
Just because an actor is signed on for sequels, it doesn't mean that he'll be in them. Mark Wahlberg was signed for more Planet of the Apes sequels, and those never happened.
05-12-07, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
I will laugh my ass off if Zombie's take on the franchise fails (it might really be the nail in the coffin for The Weinstein Company) and the money already invested into the two sequels is wasted.
If the sequel does happen within the time allowed in the contract, he'll have to do it. Most of the studios, when making films that could enable a franchise, will usually contract the stars of the film for a specific amount of time if the film does take off and a sequel is greenlit. Planet of the Apes never had sequels, mostly due to the terrible word of mouth the first one received plus the unwillingness of Tim Burton to do sequels. All of the actors of Lost in Space were signed on for two sequels, but that flopped. All of the actors (except the adults) were contracted for a Sky High television show if the film was a hit. It happens a lot in the industry.
If the sequel does happen within the time allowed in the contract, he'll have to do it. Most of the studios, when making films that could enable a franchise, will usually contract the stars of the film for a specific amount of time if the film does take off and a sequel is greenlit. Planet of the Apes never had sequels, mostly due to the terrible word of mouth the first one received plus the unwillingness of Tim Burton to do sequels. All of the actors of Lost in Space were signed on for two sequels, but that flopped. All of the actors (except the adults) were contracted for a Sky High television show if the film was a hit. It happens a lot in the industry.
There's no way the studio would have turned her down at the time. If she said she didn't want a sequel clause, they would have done that -- only because the idea was so big in the 90's. And it was riding off Halloween 6.
05-13-07, 03:22 AM
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Sorry, I just noticed that it says "no word on Zombie".
Zombie has stated that he will not take part in any sequel but seems to accept that they will get made if the movie is a hit.
Zombie has stated that he will not take part in any sequel but seems to accept that they will get made if the movie is a hit.
05-13-07, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrell
Oh God, when will it end!!!
Sequel gets announced; sequel comes out; people claim it sucks (mostly); others say "when will it end"; sequel heads to DVD, previously VHS, where it succeeds; sequel gets announced, repeat...
It's a business. It's been the same pattern for the last 30 years. Nothing new here.
P.S. It's a little different this time: replace sequel with remake, but it's the same idea. The remake will likely be more successful than most -- if not all -- of the sequels, so I won't be surprised at all when a sequel is announced.
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05-14-07, 01:08 AM
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It's a business.
replace sequel with remake
05-14-07, 10:07 AM
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I just read somewhere that John Carpenter is getting involved with a Freddy vs Jason vs Michael movie.
As one of the few that enjoyed Freddy vs Jason, I would go see that. I'm not too enthusiastic about the new flick though based on the trailers and plot descriptions I've seen thus far.
As one of the few that enjoyed Freddy vs Jason, I would go see that. I'm not too enthusiastic about the new flick though based on the trailers and plot descriptions I've seen thus far.
05-14-07, 01:59 PM
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I like horror. I like horror sequels, but only when they're done right (obviously). If Zombie manages to somehow not completely fuck up the Halloween mythos, then I'd be open to watching a sequel. I gave Ho1KC 7/10 and Devil's Rejects 10/10, so he has been improving as a director. If I love this new Michael Myers like I loved the one of old I won't mind seeing him continue his hack-n-slash adventures.
05-14-07, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
Can't wait. Hopefully there will be a 'Buy this DVD and get a free ticket' special.
It could be on a newer film, but with Dimension's offerings lately (Black Christmas), it's not worth it that way either.
05-16-07, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Cardiac161
As much as there are a lot of people who loved the classics, studios will never stop remaking them for today's younger (or newer) audiences who seem to like their horror films with more gore, violence, fast cut edits etc. Forget the social commentaries, symbolism, satirical views or what-have-you that may have made the originals critically applauded...audiences who make up most of the horror movie-going population want in-your-face intensity like Saw or Hostel and consider Eli Roth, Rob Zombie & Alexandre Aja as the modern auteurs of the genre.
The reason that the original Halloween works is because its simple. And it simply scares the mess out of you because of it.
This wave of "new horror" and the extreme graphic content it displays is simply pornographic trash.
I've read a lot of critics who seem to wince at the level of graphic violence being portrayed in today's horror films which seem to top one method of killing from the last.
But that's the way Hollywood is and I can only hope the next batch of remakes (like Escape from New York) would, not really have to pay homage to the original, but at least be a good worthwhile film to watch.
For what it's worth I grew up during the heyday of Halloween. It's one of my favorite horror films. Now I am not opposed to a revisit because I know there is no way it can be out done. But if this remake that Zombie is doing turns into some pornographic nightmare then he's a completely demented Hollywood sell-out fleecing the "new horror" fans. And that does absolutely nothing for the genre or the Halloween saga except line his pockets with $$$.
05-18-07, 05:44 AM
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Halloween is the one film I personally believe to be the scariest ever made.
I see comments about the remake: "The mask looks scarier". Is the mask supposed to look scarier? Didn't Michael Myers steal it from a Hardware store? The mask serves two purposes: 1. To hide the fact that the "Boogeyman" is only 21 years old & probably looks ordinary. 2. It's very pale white, so that it shows up very well against dark backgrounds.
Halloween works because it is simple & horrifying. No action/flash/static photography or contrived backstory with added gore was necessary.
I see comments about the remake: "The mask looks scarier". Is the mask supposed to look scarier? Didn't Michael Myers steal it from a Hardware store? The mask serves two purposes: 1. To hide the fact that the "Boogeyman" is only 21 years old & probably looks ordinary. 2. It's very pale white, so that it shows up very well against dark backgrounds.
Halloween works because it is simple & horrifying. No action/flash/static photography or contrived backstory with added gore was necessary.
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05-18-07, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by darkside
Agree. The genius of the original was just how scary it was with minimal violence. It was a nice bridge between the Hitchcock style of horror and suspense and the bloody films that would follow in the 80s.
Zombie remaking this as a blood bath has zero interest for me. I consider House of a Thousand Corpses one of the worst films I have ever watched and even though he improved greatly on the second movie I don't see any evidence of him having the directing chops to pull off a remake of a classic of this magnitude.
Zombie remaking this as a blood bath has zero interest for me. I consider House of a Thousand Corpses one of the worst films I have ever watched and even though he improved greatly on the second movie I don't see any evidence of him having the directing chops to pull off a remake of a classic of this magnitude.
05-18-07, 01:11 PM
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Zombie is going to right the wrong over all those inane sequels - including part II... and just may even surpass the original
Zombie is a talentless turd who couldn't touch Carpenter in a million lifetimes. Carpenter at his worst is better than Zombie ever will be.
05-18-07, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrell
Zombie is a talentless turd who couldn't touch Carpenter in a million lifetimes. Carpenter at his worst is better than Zombie ever will be.Carpenter at his worst is pretty damn bad.
Seriously now, The devils rejects is a great film. It most likely will hold up as a great film over time. there is no way that something like Ghosts of Mars , Vampire$ or Village of the Damned can be considered a better film than Devils Rejects.
After seeing Rejects, and knowing his admiration for the original and for Carpenter himself, I'm very curious as to what Zombie will do with this.
The original is a great movie. it will still exist after Zombie's movie comes out.
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Originally Posted by Seantn
No, actually, at the wrap party they burned the original negatives to the first Halloween. That's just how much disdain Zombie has for the original. He has been quoted as saying:
"John Carpenter...I respect the man, but he is past his prime. The only boring Halloween movie is part 1, so i'm gonna mold it into a winner. It's what I do with music, and i'm starting to do it more with film. After this, i'm seriously considering doing a proper remake of 'Night of the Living Dead'. Of course, I'll have to put my song, 'Living Dead Girl' in there somewhere. Maybe when one of the seven people in the farmhouse is turned it can begin thumping through the speakers. Right now, all my energy is focused on Halloween, so that's all I want to discuss."
"John Carpenter...I respect the man, but he is past his prime. The only boring Halloween movie is part 1, so i'm gonna mold it into a winner. It's what I do with music, and i'm starting to do it more with film. After this, i'm seriously considering doing a proper remake of 'Night of the Living Dead'. Of course, I'll have to put my song, 'Living Dead Girl' in there somewhere. Maybe when one of the seven people in the farmhouse is turned it can begin thumping through the speakers. Right now, all my energy is focused on Halloween, so that's all I want to discuss."
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