Star Trek XI in 2008 Written/Directed by JJ Abrams
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I see no point in this. While I wouldn't endorse it either, an Academy prequel makes much more sense as a TV series than a feature film. Other than the obvious cash-grab, why even bother with this? Paramount has found a way to destroy TNG, Voyager, and Enterprise with dreadful closing chapters, so I guess TOS is up next on their list. Perhaps DS9 fans should just be thankful to be ignored.
At least the good thing is that this is an Abrams project that isn't going to series, so we don't have to get all pumped at how good it is early on and then suffer years of disappointment when he gets bored with it and takes a higher-paying job.
Being a Trekkie gets more difficult with each passing day. It's like God is on a karmic payback mission for all the great stuff we got early on.
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At least the good thing is that this is an Abrams project that isn't going to series, so we don't have to get all pumped at how good it is early on and then suffer years of disappointment when he gets bored with it and takes a higher-paying job.
Being a Trekkie gets more difficult with each passing day. It's like God is on a karmic payback mission for all the great stuff we got early on.
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Being a Trekkie gets more difficult with each passing day. It's like God is on a karmic payback mission for all the great stuff we got early on.
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What's with all the prequel approaches to tired series these days? First Star Wars, then Bond, now this. Do they figure that there's no more forward left so they might as well go back in time?
I am interested, but this will eliminate any true suspense as you know Kirk and Spock will make it. Not to mention create another inconsistency in how the FX of today will look and then how the 60s sets will look when placed in sequential order.
I am interested, but this will eliminate any true suspense as you know Kirk and Spock will make it. Not to mention create another inconsistency in how the FX of today will look and then how the 60s sets will look when placed in sequential order.
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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
What's with all the prequel approaches to tired series these days? First Star Wars, then Bond, now this. Do they figure that there's no more forward left so they might as well go back in time?
I am interested, but this will eliminate any true suspense as you know Kirk and Spock will make it. Not to mention create another inconsistency in how the FX of today will look and then how the 60s sets will look when placed in sequential order.
I am interested, but this will eliminate any true suspense as you know Kirk and Spock will make it. Not to mention create another inconsistency in how the FX of today will look and then how the 60s sets will look when placed in sequential order.
For Bond, Batman, Superman, and now ST, it seems to be more about re-starting things to get a new vision/perspective after the previous outings were not as well-received, and also an attempt to get new people in by "restarting" things so there isn't so much baggage they have to deal with. I'm not sure if that actually works though.
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Also, let me be the first to say that this whole prequel enterprise is a terrible idea.
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Originally Posted by Calculon
Also, let me be the first to say that this whole prequel enterprise is a terrible idea.
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For SW, it was probably more about finishing the story (and money).
For Bond, Batman, Superman, and now ST, it seems to be more about re-starting things to get a new vision/perspective after the previous outings were not as well-received, and also an attempt to get new people in by "restarting" things so there isn't so much baggage they have to deal with. I'm not sure if that actually works though.
For Bond, Batman, Superman, and now ST, it seems to be more about re-starting things to get a new vision/perspective after the previous outings were not as well-received, and also an attempt to get new people in by "restarting" things so there isn't so much baggage they have to deal with. I'm not sure if that actually works though.
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I don't necessarily like the concept, but I do like that they are trying to breathe new life into the series with some good talent.
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Anything that causes B&B to be stripped of their Trek duties is a happy day for me and I'll be cautiously optimistic.
That said, why is Paramount soooo hung up on this Academy idea? We've heard about this since STIV came out. Enough with the prequels already!
That said, why is Paramount soooo hung up on this Academy idea? We've heard about this since STIV came out. Enough with the prequels already!
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
The difference between Superman and Batman (didn't read about the plans for Bond) is that they are ignoring all the other Superman/Batman movies, and creating a whole new franchise.
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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
What's with all the prequel approaches to tired series these days? First Star Wars, then Bond, now this. Do they figure that there's no more forward left so they might as well go back in time?
I've yet to see one that was necessary, and the backstory they provide never quite measures up to the one you imagined in your mind. And don't get me started on how much they ruin the continuity of the series!
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Well Doom was technically a prequel, but it really didn't emphasize the point to show it. Indiana Jones was Indiana Jones.The only motivating factor to change the date was to make it a prequel was to excuse Marion not being around.
I guess you could make an argument that beginning of Doom Jones was more of a Belloq type figure - just in for the money. At the end, he was an altruistic grave robber. But its a stretch.
An idea of a Star Trek prequel is inherently boring. Its gotta be one of the reasons Enterprise failed. The idea doesn't sit right - William Shatner is Kirk, Leonard Nimoy is Spock. I'm not sure people are going to like it or even care.
The only logical way for this movie to end up - is a rebooting of the original Enterprise with new actors. I think that would suck bad.
I guess you could make an argument that beginning of Doom Jones was more of a Belloq type figure - just in for the money. At the end, he was an altruistic grave robber. But its a stretch.
An idea of a Star Trek prequel is inherently boring. Its gotta be one of the reasons Enterprise failed. The idea doesn't sit right - William Shatner is Kirk, Leonard Nimoy is Spock. I'm not sure people are going to like it or even care.
The only logical way for this movie to end up - is a rebooting of the original Enterprise with new actors. I think that would suck bad.
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They should just do an epic war film. Take all the actors who aren't asking for a shitload of money, put them on ships, and wage interstellar war on someone. I don't care who. Maybe the Orions. Or the Vorlons. Who cares. Then kill half of them. Make it 3 hours. But no more time travel and no more Moby Dick. Oh, and no love interests either.
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Originally Posted by das Monkey
They should just do an epic war film. Take all the actors who aren't asking for a shitload of money, put them on ships, and wage interstellar war on someone. I don't care who. Maybe the Orions. Or the Vorlons. Who cares. Then kill half of them. Make it 3 hours. But no more time travel and no more Moby Dick. Oh, and no love interests either.
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Originally Posted by das Monkey
They should just do an epic war film. Take all the actors who aren't asking for a shitload of money, put them on ships, and wage interstellar war on someone. I don't care who. Maybe the Orions. Or the Vorlons. Who cares. Then kill half of them. Make it 3 hours. But no more time travel and no more Moby Dick. Oh, and no love interests either.
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I say, go forward not backward.
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I've been avoiding reading too much about the new Superman, but I got the impression that it takes place after the events of Superman II. Did that change?
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It happens after SUPERMAN II and incorporates footage from at least SUPERMAN I and possibly II; it DOES proceed as though those two films exist, but not III and IV. It will hopefully represent what we always wanted III to be...
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I love the idea of JJ Abrams taking over Star Trek. This guy has a perfect track record so far, Felicity, Alias, Lost and by the sounds of it M.I 3. The concept is questionable , its hard to recast classic characters like Kirk and Spock. There is hope, because I didn't think Lucas could pull off a young Obi Wan, and it was done to perfection.
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FWIW, I never understood how, if Temple of Doom was a prequel as the date indicates, Indy could go through all of that stuff and then in Raiders claim he didn't believe in magic and superstitous hocus pocus.
It would be like Kirk talking about the importance of commiting to a one true love in life, though I hope we get to see Carol in this one if you know of whom I speak.
It would be like Kirk talking about the importance of commiting to a one true love in life, though I hope we get to see Carol in this one if you know of whom I speak.
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Originally Posted by chanster
An idea of a Star Trek prequel is inherently boring. Its gotta be one of the reasons Enterprise failed. The idea doesn't sit right - William Shatner is Kirk, Leonard Nimoy is Spock. I'm not sure people are going to like it or even care.
The only logical way for this movie to end up - is a rebooting of the original Enterprise with new actors. I think that would suck bad.
The only logical way for this movie to end up - is a rebooting of the original Enterprise with new actors. I think that would suck bad.
And I'm not inherently against the idea of Trek prequel. The novel mentioned earlier, Best Destiny, is a young Kirk adventure and is a rousing adventure that I've read multiple times. You just need the right people behind it.
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I just don't think that the masses are going to except two new people playing icons like Kirk and Spock. Talk about alienating the fanbase that you want to attract.
Glad that Berman got the pink slip though.
Glad that Berman got the pink slip though.
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Mission: Impossible III director J.J. Abrams is hitting back at unauthorized reports he is directing the next Star Trek movie. The Alias creator is furious the news was released prematurely and is also upset that key details regarding the storyline were incorrectly reported. He explains to Empire online, "The whole thing was reported entirely without our cooperation. People learned that I was producing a Star Trek film, that I had an option to direct it, they hear rumors of what the thing was going to be and ran with a story that is not entirely accurate." Last week, Hollywood trade paper Variety, reported Abrams was on board and that the film would center on the early days of Captain James T. Kirk and Spock and that Philip Seymour Hoffman was in talks to play the ship's doctor. Abrams won't reveal the true storyline, but hints that it won't feature characters Captain James T. Kirk or Mr. Spock at all, but doesn't rule out bringing some of the original characters back for the new film, adding, "Those characters are so spectacular. I just think that..you know, they could live again."
Mission: Impossible III director J.J. Abrams is hitting back at unauthorized reports he is directing the next Star Trek movie. The Alias creator is furious the news was released prematurely and is also upset that key details regarding the storyline were incorrectly reported. He explains to Empire online, "The whole thing was reported entirely without our cooperation. People learned that I was producing a Star Trek film, that I had an option to direct it, they hear rumors of what the thing was going to be and ran with a story that is not entirely accurate." Last week, Hollywood trade paper Variety, reported Abrams was on board and that the film would center on the early days of Captain James T. Kirk and Spock and that Philip Seymour Hoffman was in talks to play the ship's doctor. Abrams won't reveal the true storyline, but hints that it won't feature characters Captain James T. Kirk or Mr. Spock at all, but doesn't rule out bringing some of the original characters back for the new film, adding, "Those characters are so spectacular. I just think that..you know, they could live again."