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Buttmunker 04-18-06 03:47 PM

JFK - inappropriate title for this Oliver Stone movie?
 
In 1991, Oliver Stone directed a movie called JFK, and if you knew nothing about this movie, wouldn't you think it was a story about John Fitzgerald Kennedy, the 35th President of the United States?

But its not about John Fitzgerald Kennedy, the President. Its about John Fitzgerald Kennedy's assassination, all posthumous to the President.

Shouldn't JFK have been named something else? Like - JFK's Assassination?

dick_grayson 04-18-06 03:49 PM

I agree. Independence Day have been called "That Time Aliens Attacked and The President Pitched In"

DVD King 04-18-06 03:53 PM

I think it's a good point to make-- biopics in general seem to come with dumb, unethical names

lotsofdvds 04-18-06 03:53 PM

Pearl Harbor should have been called "Some stuff before the surprise attack and then a bunch of stuff after it too"

Count Dooku 04-18-06 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Buttmunker
In 1991, Oliver Stone directed a movie called JFK, and if you knew nothing about this movie, wouldn't you think it was a story about John Fitzgerald Kennedy, the 35th President of the United States?

or Just For Knuckleheads

Joe Molotov 04-18-06 04:09 PM

When I purchased Gandhi from Amazon.com, I was shocked to find that it was actually a movie about Gandhi, and not the man himself. It should have been titled "A Movie About Gandhi" to clear up confusion.

Groucho 04-18-06 04:28 PM

That's nothing. Stone's Nixon has nothing to do with the reindeer. :mad:

dhmac 04-18-06 04:30 PM

The movie is mostly based on Jim Garrison's book called On the Trail of the Assassins, which would've been a much better title for the movie.

Groucho 04-18-06 04:32 PM

Another good title for JFK would have been The Lord of the Rings because its pure fantasy.

MartinBlank 04-18-06 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Groucho
That's nothing. Stone's Nixon has nothing to do with the reindeer. :mad:

um....it's Blitzen or Vixen.

FinkPish 04-18-06 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by MartinBlank
um....it's Blitzen or Vixen.

Welcome to the boards. FYI, Groucho is a sarcasti-holic.

Palpadious 04-18-06 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by Groucho
Another good title for JFK would have been The Lord of the Rings because its pure fantasy.

from a certain point of view

FinkPish 04-18-06 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Palpadious
from a certain point of view

If you still believe anything having to do with a second or third shooter, I suggest watching any of the innumerable JFK documentaries that usually pop up around November. The one on the Discovery Channel (I think) had the best scientific explanation I've ever seen; each fact was gone over carefully and shown to have been absolutely possible to have been done by Oswald alone. I can't speak to the "conspiracy" aspect of it, but the shooting itself was wrapped up nicely.

majorjoe23 04-18-06 09:08 PM

I saw this movie about a bus that had to SPEED around a city, keeping its SPEED over fifty, and if its SPEED dropped, it would explode! I think it was called "The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down."

GoldenJCJ 04-18-06 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by majorjoe23
I saw this movie about a bus that had to SPEED around a city, keeping its SPEED over fifty, and if its SPEED dropped, it would explode! I think it was called "The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down."

yeah, but 50 mph isn't speeding. If it were up to me I would have called it Going Slightly Below the Speed Limit :D

PopcornTreeCt 04-18-06 09:34 PM

This is the dumbest thread ever. There is no biopic about John F. Kennedy so the title still fits, until there is, it's fine. It's like asking why aren't the Florida Marlins called the Miami Marlins. Because at the time no other major league baseball team existed in Florida.

PopcornTreeCt 04-18-06 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by FinkPish
If you still believe anything having to do with a second or third shooter, I suggest watching any of the innumerable JFK documentaries that usually pop up around November. The one on the Discovery Channel (I think) had the best scientific explanation I've ever seen; each fact was gone over carefully and shown to have been absolutely possible to have been done by Oswald alone. I can't speak to the "conspiracy" aspect of it, but the shooting itself was wrapped up nicely.

I've watched numerous documentaries on the JFK assassination I've never seen one that didn't support multiple shooters. It's not like Oliver Stone made this stuff up.

GoldenJCJ 04-18-06 10:15 PM

technically, the title Jurassic Park is misleading, It should've been called Cretaceous Park

JumpCutz 04-18-06 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by FinkPish
If you still believe anything having to do with a second or third shooter, I suggest watching any of the innumerable JFK documentaries that usually pop up around November. The one on the Discovery Channel (I think) had the best scientific explanation I've ever seen; each fact was gone over carefully and shown to have been absolutely possible to have been done by Oswald alone. I can't speak to the "conspiracy" aspect of it, but the shooting itself was wrapped up nicely.

Sure it's possible that Oswald acted alone, but logic dictates he didn't.
There is enough evidence to suggest that it was indeed a conspiracy. Who the conspirators were, of course, leads to endless conjecture.

Fact or fiction, JFK is an incredible piece of filmmaking. IMHO Stone's best work.

I'm also in agreement that this thread is pretty ridiculous.

DVD King 04-18-06 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
This is the dumbest thread ever. There is no biopic about John F. Kennedy so the title still fits, until there is, it's fine.

This is the dumbest thread ever, thanks to replies its getting. JFK is a bad title because it insinuates that his life is about being publicly assassinated. It doesn't have anything to do with a title already being in use or not.

FinkPish 04-18-06 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by JumpCutz
Sure it's possible that Oswald acted alone, but logic dictates he didn't.
There is enough evidence to suggest that it was indeed a conspiracy. Who the conspirators were, of course, leads to endless conjecture.

Fact or fiction, JFK is an incredible piece of filmmaking. IMHO Stone's best work.

I was just talking about Oswald being the only shooter, which I why I said I couldn't really comment on the conspiracy element of it. Stone's film is indeed incredible and incredibly persuasive, and it nearly changes my mind about the event every time I watch it.

movielib 04-18-06 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
I've watched numerous documentaries on the JFK assassination I've never seen one that didn't support multiple shooters. It's not like Oliver Stone made this stuff up.

Which probably means you've seen the ones on the History Channel which I like to call the Mythtery Channel.

The Discovery Channel, Court TV and ABC have all had excellent documentaries in recent years supporting the "Oswald did it alone" theory.


Originally Posted by JumpCutz
Sure it's possible that Oswald acted alone, but logic dictates he didn't.

There is enough evidence to suggest that it was indeed a conspiracy. Who the conspirators were, of course, leads to endless conjecture.

I strongly disagree. The evidence for a conspiracy falls apart upon examination.


Fact or fiction, JFK is an incredible piece of filmmaking. IMHO Stone's best work.
On that I agree. I think as cinema the film is a masterpiece and I love it even though as history I think it is a steaming pile of bullshit.

Jericho 04-18-06 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
This is the dumbest thread ever. There is no biopic about John F. Kennedy so the title still fits, until there is, it's fine. It's like asking why aren't the Florida Marlins called the Miami Marlins. Because at the time no other major league baseball team existed in Florida.

That's like calling a team the California Angels, even though there are other California teams. Then changing it to Anahiem. And then changing it to Los Angeles Angels, even though Los Angeles means "The Angels". So the team is The Angels Angels? What does that even mean? That's even worse than the Buffalo Bison

BigDan 04-19-06 12:11 AM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
This is the dumbest thread ever. There is no biopic about John F. Kennedy so the title still fits, until there is, it's fine. It's like asking why aren't the Florida Marlins called the Miami Marlins. Because at the time no other major league baseball team existed in Florida.

I think the bigger question is why they're the Marlins when the plural of Marlin is Marlin.

Cygnet74 04-19-06 12:35 AM

uhh... nevermind.

awmurray 04-19-06 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Buttmunker
Shouldn't JFK have been named something else? Like - JFK's Assassination?

Well, unfortunately, I would guess that most people think of JFK's Assassination when they hear JFK.

mllefoo 04-19-06 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by JumpCutz
Sure it's possible that Oswald acted alone, but logic dictates he didn't.
There is enough evidence to suggest that it was indeed a conspiracy. Who the conspirators were, of course, leads to endless conjecture.

Fact or fiction, JFK is an incredible piece of filmmaking. IMHO Stone's best work.

I'm also in agreement that this thread is pretty ridiculous.

Watch the Ticka to Ride episode of Red Dwarf. It explains everything perfectly.

Bandoman 04-19-06 10:20 AM

This thread is hilarious. :lol:

Don't most people have some idea what a movie is about before going to see it? I have never, ever gone to a movie based on the title alone without knowing anything else about the movie. "Waterworld? Sounds great!"

Y2K Falcon 04-19-06 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by MartinBlank
um....it's Blitzen or Vixen.

Well...

This movie isn't about reindeer either. :grunt:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Buford T Pusser 04-19-06 10:31 AM

LHO

or be safe and go with

JFK vs. LHO

Bandoman 04-19-06 10:39 AM

Don't forget the sequel: JFK v. LHO 2: This Time It's Personal

Y2K Falcon 04-19-06 10:41 AM

No Electric Boogaloo = No Sale!



Now, who's gonna photoshop a movie poster using AvP font for JvL

DoubleDownAgain 04-19-06 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Buford T Pusser
LHO

or be safe and go with

JFK vs. LHO

LHO?

Landesverband Hessischer Omnibusunternehmer?

Brain Stew 04-19-06 01:19 PM

Lee Harvey Oswald

I hear they're working on the sequel: LHO vs. JR. I hear the ending just comes out of nowhere!

DoubleDownAgain 04-19-06 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Brain Stew
Lee Harvey Oswald

I hear they're working on the sequel: LHO vs. JR. I hear the ending just comes out of nowhere!

Who's he? :)

Joe Molotov 04-19-06 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Bandoman
Don't forget the sequel: JFK v. LHO 2: This Time It's Personal

I thought the sequel was RFK vs. Sirhan "The Man Who's Last Name is the Same as His First" Sirhan.

LurkerDan 04-19-06 02:37 PM

Boogie Nights wasn't really about dancing. :(

Numanoid 04-19-06 03:12 PM

I thought this thread was going to be about Stone's movie Born On The Fourth Of July. I would have agreed then that JFK was an inappropriate title, since he wasn't born anywhere near July 4th.

Bandoman 04-19-06 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by LurkerDan
Boogie Nights wasn't really about dancing. :(

Yet in a way, it was.

*sigh*

Nick Danger 04-20-06 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Molotov
I thought the sequel was RFK vs. Sirhan "The Man Who's Last Name is the Same as His First" Sirhan.

Followed by Ted vs. The Pale Blue Dot!

(Trilogies tend to go downhill.)


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