OldBoy

nah, i don't think you've been here long enough to know what to discuss and where. dvd's are discussed in their entirety in most forums here except this.

BellsOfWar

wow. i really enjoyed it. to each their own. i liked she's all that as well, haven't seen whatever it takes in it's entirety to comment.

BellsOfWar

looks like i'm not the only one who mentions dvd's in this forum.

NatrlBornThrllr

As much as I hate to say it, Scott's right. Welcome to the site and have a look around. Practically every discussion in this forum centers on the movies themselves (plots, acting, rumors, etc) and their theatrical runs. Most of the discussions about DVDisms take place in the DVD forum.

I'm not saying that nobody will ever use the word "DVD" in here. It's just that most discussions in here revolve around the film itself and it's theatrical run, as opposed to it's home video incarnation.

-JP

BellsOfWar

which i understood, but the question was "what movie will bomb?" and it's unfair to say whether a movie is a bomb until ALL figures are accounted for which is what i stated in my initial post. a dvd is still the same thing you'd see at the theatre, so then why should that be omitted if it's going to the same profit? and btw, i'm not new, i've been a long time lurker, but that's neither here nor there.

NatrlBornThrllr

Actually, while there are exceptions, most movies are labeled a bomb or success (or somewhere in between) based on their theatrical gross. Many of Uwe Boll's movies made quite a bit of money on various home video formats, but all are still considered bombs. Peter Jackson's "King Kong" had a cemented status (that being an acceptable but mediocre performance in lieu of expectations) long before it was ever released on DVD. Pluto Nash could see a resurgence and sell enough copies on HD-DVD to see the film break even, but that doesn't mean that it will lose the stigma of being the largest flop ever.

"Bomb" is a term often used to refer to the performance (or lack thereof) of a film during it's theatrical run. Sadly, your opinions as to the level of "unfairness" in this situation are irrelevant.

..and you're still not familiar with the place? For shame.

-JP

Matthew Chmiel

Granted, most films do recoup their losts on the home video market; but that doesn't make a film lose it's stigma that it underpreformed, bombed, or tanked.

DRG

Based on the early box office numbers, you may be right. Only $1.1 million on Friday... ouch.

BellsOfWar

meh, i suppose the "generic" term does in fact mean box office and i was looking at the overall picture. i think it's pretty safe to assume pluto nash will never see an increase sales so that was a pretty dumb statement. common sense says the majority of the dvd sales will most likely come within the inital release which is mainly what i was referring to. and once that happens then that should be what considers the film a success or failure. it's pretty obvious if the film bombs in theatres it'll bomb on dvd. but stuff like running scared is an exception, it did subpar at the theatre but the budget was very low. dvd sales could put it over the top so it's not fait to call it a bust so early when in the longrun it might not be. but i agree, alot of what bombs in theatres will be bombs in genral, but that isn't always the case.

who said i wasn't familar? just cuz i choose not to follow rules doesn't mean i'm not familar. did i mention "specs" on dvd's? nah. just stated that dvd's sales are in fact part of profit for a movie, unless you know something i don't which is doubtful.

Drexl

Was Running Scared or Basic Instinct 2 even expected to do well?

William Fuld

Ghost Rider was banished to February 2007, I believe.

BellsOfWar

running scared i doubt. basic instinct 2 i'm unsure of, i'd assume the bigger the budget the more the chance for success the studio had. so if the budget were available it'd be easier to see, though i doubt they put anymore than $15-$25 mill in it.

Cygnet74

this thread.

Mr. Cinema

Not to defend Kong again....but any movie that earns $218 million in the US and $546 million worldwide should never be considered a mediocre performance.

Tarantino

Just give it up, chief. We don't talk about DVD's in here. Neither should you. That's a rule you should follow.

= J

Digigeek06

I for some reason have a feeling Poseidon is going to tank and may be the biggest box office disappointment this summer,i guess only time will tell.

Joe Molotov

You guys are great. Let's all pile on the new guy because he mentioned DVD sales in a thread that doesn't specifically say whether it's talking about DVD sales or not. Oh wait!! This is the Movie Forum...we can't talk about DVDs in here!!!

NatrlBornThrllr

Welcome to the wide world of analogies. I hope you enjoy your stay here.

Kong was one of my three favorite movies of last year. It's performance was just viewed by most as subpar due to the unrealistic, inflated expectations.

Pay attention. Dude's not new, he's been here for decades.

-JP

Joe Molotov

Only X has been here for decades.

NatrlBornThrllr

Not the way ol' Bells tells it.

-JP

OldBoy

NatrlBornThrllr

Haha, I totally tuned out that little personal attack. Seriously, I didn't even notice it.

OldBoy

you gots issues.

NatrlBornThrllr

Naturally. You're just noticing this?

BellsOfWar

this is so much fun.