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Old 01-25-06 | 12:25 AM
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I'd rather see Pixar independent, but this doesn't bother me too much. I don't care so much about all the inner workings as long as Pixar keeps on delivering.

What will trouble me is what may happen if years down the line Pixar has a couple dissapointments.
Old 01-25-06 | 12:27 AM
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So, how long do you think it'll be before we hear news about Pixar starting work on Toy Story 3?

Hopefully Disney will scrap any Pixar sequels they were working on up to this point and let Pixar work on them. It wouldntt make much sense for Disney to release crappy Pixar sequels and damage the name they just paid a premium to aquire.
Old 01-25-06 | 12:46 AM
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I wonder what ol' Walt would have said if SuperBoy invited him to -- oops, let's not go there. LMAO
Amen to that. Next thing we know, Superboy would end up decimating half of the Teen Titans and have to be shoved into the Speed Force by the various Flashes, the entire lot never being heard from again.
Old 01-25-06 | 12:48 AM
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So how long have those Disney shorts been up on iTunes?
Old 01-25-06 | 03:42 AM
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Amen to that. Next thing we know, Superboy would end up decimating half of the Teen Titans and have to be shoved into the Speed Force by the various Flashes, the entire lot never being heard from again.
Old 01-25-06 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BadlyDrawnBoy
They have apparently already been working on it, or at least Disney have, I think it was going to get released with or without this deal.
They were starting from scratch, which means recreating all the models for the characters so the animation would have been "off." The story was also penned by Disney w/o Pixar involvement. So chances are it would have royally sucked based on their recent track record. Lasseter said that Pixar had/has an idea for 3 but wouldn't do it until a new contract for Pixar was on the table. With Pixar involved chances are higher of all the actors returning.

Originally Posted by majorjoe23
John Lassetter is becoming Chief Creative Officer for Disney, in charge of all animation. This means Disney films should get better, not that Pixar films will get worse.
Exactly. Obviously some people didn't read the same articles. With Iger hands off, I see all Disney animation only getting better.

Anyone else find it ironic that all these guys left Disney to form Pixar and are now back working for the company they left? I hope everyone at Pixar gets some kind of bonus, not just the big dogs.

I was also thinking of the Apple/Disney angle. iTunes & ABC/Buena Vista/Disney content is a given, but it will be interesting to see what develops in the next few months.
Old 01-25-06 | 09:07 AM
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This is interesting to hear. Last I heard Disney and Pixar left on bads terms when the stopped working together on films.
Old 01-25-06 | 09:59 AM
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Just found this in today's news....WOW that was unexpected...Maybe jobs can save disney.

Taken from Techweb.com

Analysis: Pixar's Steve Jobs To Join Disney Board

By W. David Gardner, TechWeb News

With Pixar Animation Studios now officially a part of the Walt Disney Co., which paid $7.6 billion for the animated film creator Tuesday, a major question is just where does Steve Jobs go?

For starters, Jobs, who now owns about 6.5 percent of Disney's stock, will become a member of the Disney board, and as one Pixar executive put it, Jobs will be "a ball of fire" at Disney. Jobs will remain in his post as chief executive of Apple Computer where he has a very full plate.

Jobs is often described as brilliant and charismatic and Disney needs some brilliance and charisma in the wake of management upheaval and stockholder battles as well as a loss of traction in its own animation projects. He has ruled out becoming Disney's chairman, at least for now.

Apple has been on a tear lately, its stock soaring on its successful iPod products. But Apple's stock has dropped in recent days, and Apple still has a challenge to deliver on its new computers based on Intel processors.

For the time being the Pixar acquisition is all sweetness and light for Jobs and for new Disney CEO Robert Iger. Even Roy Disney, the firm's former vice chairman who led a bitter stockholder fight against the previous Disney management, praised the deal. According to the Wall Street Journal, Roy Disney said: "This clearly solidified the Walt Disney Company's position as the dominant leader in motion picture animation and we applaud and support Bob Iger's vision."
Old 01-25-06 | 10:01 AM
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Do you end every post with LMAO, LOL, ROTLMAO?
Well, aren't you the quick study.
Old 01-25-06 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Terrell
By the way, here's an interesting article from JHM that discusses why Jobs being a board member or possible CEO of Disney is not a good thing. It even discusses how Pixar became successful, in spite of Jobs.

Of course the article admits Jobs is a brilliant businessman, but it does make some compelling arguments as to why Jobs being in a controlling position at WD is not necessarily a good idea. Don't shoot the messenger.

http://www.jimhillmedia.com/article.php?id=1812
Just read the article. Interesting. For those that haven't read it, to sum it up, Jobs wanted Pixar so he could sell computers and software to other design shops, not for the animation. Which from a buisiness stand point sounds like a decent idea. Pixar/Jobs was in the red for $60 million from the time he purchased until Toy Story came out in 95, about 10 years. He was looking to unload the company since they weren't turning a profit.

The article basically blasts him for not seeing the genius of the animation and the quality of the animated shorts. Hindsight is 20/20. Equal arguements could be made for Lucas & Katzenberg. Lucas who sold Jobs the company and Katzenberg for passing up buying it for $15 million from Lucas before Jobs stepped in.

So the whole article is rather silly, just boils down to "Jobs should have known what he had."
Old 01-25-06 | 01:10 PM
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Lucas who sold Jobs the company and Katzenberg for passing up buying it for $15 million from Lucas before Jobs stepped in.
Well, Lucas sold it for one reason and one reason only. Lucas wanted to keep Pixar, but he was going through his divorce about that time and his wife Marcia, got half of his entire wealth. So he was in need of cash.

I think the gist of JHM's article is this. Most have been arguing that the problem with Disney is the suits have been running things and making decisions over the last decade, instead of the creative people. His argument is Jobs is just another suit, and that Pixar was successful in spite of his mismanaging. The funny thing is, Jobs wanted to dump the very thing that made Pixar what it is today, the animation department, because it was so costly. Interesting to say the least.
Old 01-25-06 | 03:00 PM
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Well, aren't you the quick study.
I had an unusually slow day at work yesterday and I acutally got to read a bit more than I usually do. After about 10-15 posts it kinda stuck out....n00b.

kidding...welcome to the forum
Old 01-25-06 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrell
I think the gist of JHM's article is this. Most have been arguing that the problem with Disney is the suits have been running things and making decisions over the last decade, instead of the creative people. His argument is Jobs is just another suit, and that Pixar was successful in spite of his mismanaging. The funny thing is, Jobs wanted to dump the very thing that made Pixar what it is today, the animation department, because it was so costly. Interesting to say the least.
It's interesting to a point, but in the end, Jobs not only kept the animation department, but apparently left them with free reign creatively. There were likely plenty of opportunities to kill Pixar by micromanaging or whatnot even in the aftermath of Toy Story's big success, but, Jobs was apparently largely hands-off in terms of the creative.

Jobs may be a suit, but with Pixar, at least, he let the creatives be creative. And that's something that Disney could probably use.
Old 01-25-06 | 05:26 PM
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Jobs may be a suit, but with Pixar, at least, he let the creatives be creative. And that's something that Disney could probably use.
But they need people like Lasseter far more than they need Jobs.
Old 01-25-06 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrell
But they need people like Lasseter far more than they need Jobs.
That's certainly true, but the point was that because Jobs let Lasseter be Lasseter, he's a better kind of suit than what Disney has apparently had of late.

Certainly if your creative people suck, giving them free reign won't make for good, successful movies.
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Toy Story 3 axed
Old 01-26-06 | 09:58 AM
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The wording leads me to wonder if this is bogus or not. I see that a lot of news organizations are carrying this story, but remember the Disney - Pixar merger will not be completed until the summer. I don't think Lasseter and Catmill are employees of Disney yet and hold any power to make these decisions.

Can somebody who knows about buyouts or mergers of companies confirm or deny that?

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Old 01-26-06 | 10:45 AM
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I just caught up reading this thread. I believe this is the beginning of the end of the greatness of Pixar.
Old 01-26-06 | 11:31 AM
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I think this is GREAT news for all involved. Disney has effectively re-started it's animation group with the leader of CGI animation. You can argue all day about Jobs, but I think he will be a awesome addition to Disney and it's board.

Great News.
Old 01-26-06 | 12:29 PM
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I just caught up reading this thread. I believe this is the beginning of the end of the greatness of Pixar.

Is that because di$ney is... EVIL?!?

This actually makes complete sense as a deal and is very much a good thing for both Disney and Pixar. Especially for Pixar since it gets a sugar daddy and becomes a major influence on Disney.
Old 01-26-06 | 02:34 PM
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I stand corrected!

I popped into work today and talked with someone who was at this animation meeting and it is indeed true that Lasseter has effectively disbanded the animation group responsible for Toy Story 3.

So I guess things are already starting to move in a positive direction.

Chris
Old 01-26-06 | 02:56 PM
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Is that because di$ney is... EVIL?!?
You watch. If Cars turns out to be Pixar's first dud and box office disappointment, the Disney haters will surely blame Disney for it.
Old 01-26-06 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrell
You watch. If Cars turns out to be Pixar's first dud and box office disappointment, the Disney haters will surely blame Disney for it.
No. But I do see their first flop, be it Cars or something else, being shrugged off considering their streak. More of a "it was bound to happen sometime," type reaction.

Didn't take them long to kill Disney's version of TS3. So does that mean we will be hearing about a new TS3 production soon. The premise from the article didn't sound half bad.
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No. But I do see their first flop, be it Cars or something else, being shrugged off considering their streak. More of a "it was bound to happen sometime," type reaction.
Just remember that Disney went on a few "can't miss" type runs with their films. Sooner or later, Pixar will hit a bad streak.
Old 01-26-06 | 06:42 PM
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I see Pixar's first flop still be shrugged off as well. They have atleast two or three flops before there rep is effected in any way by it all. But it's bound to happen.


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