Has anything really grand come out of French cinema?
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Originally Posted by Jaymole
Rosetta - In fact any film by the Dardennes is worth seeing, but this is my favorite
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did you by chance see their latest - L' Enfant(The Child), heard it's excellent
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Originally Posted by Jaymole
No, but I'm dying to see it. Can't wait for it to hit theatres in March.
anyway here's what is being represented from Belgium at the AFI's 2005 European Union film Festival:
dir. Frédéric Fonteyne's GILLES' WIFE [La Femme de Gilles] (a 2004 film BTW)
dir. Dominique Deruddere's THE WEDDING PARTY [Die Bluthochzeit]
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did anyone enjoy Amelie? I know it's really cutsy and bubbly, but I really liked it.
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From: The Illustrious State of Fugue
-in reference to my cat being named after a line in Fantastic Planet (the dubbed one) on the previous page:
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Wow, thanks for all of the suggestions
I probably never would've heard of most of these films had I looked at various articles, Criterionco.com, sensesofcinema.com, etc. kind of sites about French cinema.
I probably never would've heard of most of these films had I looked at various articles, Criterionco.com, sensesofcinema.com, etc. kind of sites about French cinema.
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Originally Posted by Poggle
I'm not very familiar with French cinema at all and I want to dig into it, but from what I've read a lot of them sound very much like Italian neo-realism films and I'm looking for something more different than that kind of cinema, something that isn't the "poster boy" of French cinema like Godard.
There's a WEALTH of fantastic French cinema waiting to be explored, many of which has been presented in this thread. I would also add the sublime artistry of Jean Cocteau, especially the fantastic Blood of a Poet, Orpheus, and the simply magical Beauty and the Beast.
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That's why I'm asking cinephiles about movies beyond the popular mainstream and nouvelle vague films :-P I'm not going to collect a bunch of movies and shoot in the dark "Just because they're French and they're there in the mainstream" when I could find films that are suggested by film buffs who've dug into the genre.
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A good place to start: Les Dames du Bois de Boulogne (1945). Robert Bresson directed in his usual ascetic manner but thanks to the influence of Jean Cocteau's theatrical flair - Cocteau wrote the script from an episode found in Jacques Diderot's "Jacques le Fataliste", an 18th century satiric novella - the tone is wordly and engrossing. The photography and editing are prescient of many noir movies to come. The actors are all excellent and the production values even bankrupted the film company [the film flopped at the box office]. It has been excellently restored and is available on Criterion. A good introduction to Cocteau and Bresson.

For the record, Les Triplettes de Belleville is a France-Belgium-Canada-UK coproduction, usually billed as Canadian. The director Sylvain Chomet is French. Most of the animation work was done in Montreal and the art director Evgeny Tomov is Russian-born. The city of Belleville is a mixture of Montreal and Manhattan. The Dardenne bothers are from Belgium and their films are co-produced with France. It doesn't matter anyway as the history of French cinema has incorporated many foreign elements. Billy Wilder, Luis Bunuel, Roman Polanski and Fritz Lang all had their French period and many French directors and filmmakers (music, photography) have plied their trade in the UK and the US: Jean Renoir, René Clair, Jacques Tourneur, Julien Duvivier, Georges Auric, Delerue, etc.

For the record, Les Triplettes de Belleville is a France-Belgium-Canada-UK coproduction, usually billed as Canadian. The director Sylvain Chomet is French. Most of the animation work was done in Montreal and the art director Evgeny Tomov is Russian-born. The city of Belleville is a mixture of Montreal and Manhattan. The Dardenne bothers are from Belgium and their films are co-produced with France. It doesn't matter anyway as the history of French cinema has incorporated many foreign elements. Billy Wilder, Luis Bunuel, Roman Polanski and Fritz Lang all had their French period and many French directors and filmmakers (music, photography) have plied their trade in the UK and the US: Jean Renoir, René Clair, Jacques Tourneur, Julien Duvivier, Georges Auric, Delerue, etc.
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Originally Posted by Poggle
That's why I'm asking cinephiles about movies beyond the popular mainstream and nouvelle vague films :-P I'm not going to collect a bunch of movies and shoot in the dark "Just because they're French and they're there in the mainstream" when I could find films that are suggested by film buffs who've dug into the genre.
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come to the DC area the AFI's been showcasing a lot of French cinema on the big screen lately, they are about to do a big retrospect of Malle's films including "Au Revoir Les Enfants"
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Originally Posted by baracine
French cinema is renowned for its complexity, variety, grace, charm, wit, novelty, poetry, humour and intelligence, all qualities sadly lacking in the New Wave and especially in Jean-Luc Godard. I suggest you start anywhere than with Godard. The New Wave was a mistake.
That is just absurd. Either you're playing devil's advocate or Godard must have personally insulted you.
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WHAT?!
That is just absurd. Either you're playing devil's advocate or Godard must have personally insulted you.
That is just absurd. Either you're playing devil's advocate or Godard must have personally insulted you.
The difference between a genuinely good film and a Godard film is that the Godard film is usually made up of a series of posters of a good film with a trashy heroine posing suggestively in front of them between random, meaningless encounters with equally misguided and humourless protagonists discussing Kirkegaard's impact on modern birth control. I really liked Pierrot le Fou because most of the characters have at least the decency to die in the end.
You could say Godard deconstructed world cinema. He just forgot to put it together again when he was done with it.
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I thought 36 Quai des Orfèvres was pretty good
Director: Olivier Marchal
Starring: Gerard Depardieu, Daniel Auteuil, Andre Dussolier, Valeria Golino
and of cos Le Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain
Director: Olivier Marchal
Starring: Gerard Depardieu, Daniel Auteuil, Andre Dussolier, Valeria Golino
and of cos Le Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain
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Check out a major bunch of Criterion DVDs like Le Samourai, The Rules of the Game, Rififi, Jules & Jim, Le Trou (one of the best films I've ever seen!) and others. I have picked up more French stuff and even "American" stuff directed by French directors (Just grabbed Night and the City directed by Jules Dassin).
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I have picked up more French stuff and even "American" stuff directed by French directors (Just grabbed Night and the City directed by Jules Dassin).



