James Bond was pretty rough on the Soviets too.

I found "The Day After Tomorrow" to be full of liberal propaganda.

Given that "dubious" means "doubtful", I have no idea with the OP is talking about. Most of the examples provided are pretty far from dubious.

A movie with a dubious political agenda? Hardbodies.

John Q

Not that I hate the particular agenda (health care reform), its just that the film went about it completely wrong. An interesting concept (parents fighting for the life of their child) could have been a much more interesting drama than a cheesy thriller that basically ripped off Dog Day Afternoon which probably just gave the wrong idea to alot of people. Denzel can be great, but why he chose that film is beyond me.

Or, you know, if you do...

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du·bi·ous (dū'bē-əs, dyū'-) pronunciation
adj.

3. Of questionable character:
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G.I Jane. Ew.

You stole my pick.

I think Day After Tomorrow fits because the agenda was pointless.

After rewatching the American President it's amazing how much sappy political melodrama was thrust in there. Of course it's tilted towards the left...they make Republicans look pure evil there. As if Democrats all have a heart of gold.

Or, if, you know, you go by the primary definition:

dubious: 1. causing doubt; ambiguous; vague.

Primary, perhaps, but not the only. You corrected the guy for using a proper definition of the word (even if not the "primary" one). Simple as that.

-JP

Those are the very two that came to mind for me upon reading the thread title.

Have to disagree about their cinematic merits though. I think they are both huge stinkers.

The Contender is a political movie, no doubt. But the point of the movie would serve either party. It seems a lot of people attack the movie simply because the Deomcrats are the "good guys" and the Republicans are the "bad guys" (although the Democrats have bad guys characters too). I'm sure the movie was written/directed/produced by liberal people so there's always some bias built in there. But I also feel people read way too much into which party filled what roles. Does it really matter? I mean some party has to fill those roles.

Glad you pointed this out---I was just about to.

In the end, though, I think Groucho is on to something, even he meant to be sarcastic. If one definition of "dubious" is "of questionable character," then it would make sense for films with a message we don't agree with to be dubious.

I agree with the poster who questioned the use of the word "dubious". To me, dubious means "doubtful" - and therefore the name of the thread makes it sound like the poster was asking about movies whose political agendas are doubtful...meaning you can't tell what side of the fence the director wants you to come down on (shows both sides of the argument).

Of course reading the post, he's asking for the exact opposite.

I really don't have any additions here, other to say that ALL movies have an agenda (political or not). It's hard to tell a story without having a viewpoint.

My pick is Bob Roberts.

i agree, even though the director says he was trying to make a fair and ballanced movie......he didn't do a very good job of it.

The Day After Tomorrow and a lot of other disaster movies do a good job of pushing an agenda as well

No movie with a particular political viewpoint (regardless of what it may be) can be fair and balanced.

That said, I'd say any movie with any political agenda has a dubious one.

Yeah, I am totally unclear how to reply to the thread. I'm trying to think of a film, that is political in nature but that the message in the film uses clear misteps of truths,,, and i'm also trying to exclude any documentary as a documentary will take a position and make its point. Moore for instance, Bushies will say its dubious, non bushies will say its about time.

We've done that one to death already.

So still at a loss... To take a film I just watched, and enjoyed yet again,,
The War of the Worlds from the 50s. Political as it relates to relgious.... I also get a tad uneasy when religious comments are made in films, that are meant to be so profound, probably due to the filmmaker believing something and projecting that believe, through the film, onto the audiance. Not to "Make" you believe something, but again, something that seems to be so profound, as in the way its said, but it falls completely flat on someone who doesn't share the view.... Kind of the wink wink you get when listening to polarized pundents on talk radio. you know, all the nudge nudges to the insiders....

Anyway, when one of the "scientists" says, in 6 days, the Martians will destory the earth, someone says "the same amount of days it took to create it"....

I guess that is awe inspiring for some, dubious in its in suggestion that everyone would be awestruck, totally flat on me. In fact, I sort of laugh and say, "how insulting". So what God could do in 6 martians can undo in 6. How omnipotent is that!!!

Anyway, no disrespect to a wonderful film, which still gives me the creeps, wires on spaceships and everything! was amazed at home many wires they have to control the ship actually.

Farenheit 9/11-
dubious in every sense of the word.

I don't agree. Both of these threads have sparked pretty lively discussions. Though, I think the word "dubious" was a dubious choice. Maybe he means which has the most blatantly obvious propaganda in it??

"A dubious political agenda" means that the political agenda only makes sense after you've smoked a doobie (dubie).

I thought the Battle of Algiers portrayed both sides pretty accurately and fairly. The movie pretty much made the audience choose sides.

Absolutely, though I can think of no other films like that. I loved the Battle of Algiers for showing the atrocities committed by both sides. I sided with the French, though

du·bi·ous adj.

1. Fraught with uncertainty or doubt; undecided.
2. Arousing doubt; doubtful



Just to remind y'all what the main meaning of dubious is.