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Dr. DVD 06-24-05 07:05 PM

Okay, is War of the Worlds doomed?
 
Everyone keeps making the argument that people will see a good movie regardless of who is in it or who made it. However, I think that is bunk. I have seen many good movies fail and crap movies make it big.

A lot of the early buzz is that WotW is a good popcorn movie and on the level of Jurassic Park. However, Tom Cruise's press for this movie has not been that good as of late and he seems to be turning many people against him. I will still see WotW but only because it is directed by Steven Spielberg certainly not because of him. However, I think a lot of people might see it differently. Hell, what made him the ultimate expert on the history of psychology all of a sudden?

In his defense, I will say that whenever he goes out to promote the movie, what winds up happening is more or less a questionnaire about him and Katie and the world of scientology. In short, they are poking and prodding him to get him to react, and he is reacting.

EDIT: I'm sure the movie will play well overseas! ;)

Terrell 06-24-05 07:10 PM


However, Tom Cruise's press for this movie has not been that good as of late and he seems to be turning many people against him.
Seeing him on the Today show this morning convinced me more than ever that Cruise has gone over the deep end with this Scientology BS. He came off ridiculous in his interview with Matt Lauer, touting himself as an expert in the history of drugs and pyschology. Plus his defense of his bushwacking Brooke Shields was just as repulsive. I could see in my mind Spielberg cringing at everything coming out of his mouth.

However, I don't think the film is doomed. It will make quite a bit of coin, though I don't see it as being some huge record-breaker. I predict in the 250-260 million dollar range, perhaps slightly more.

PopcornTreeCt 06-24-05 07:11 PM

Well, there was a thread about Mr. and Mrs. Smith being doomed and since that was pretty much the opposite, I'd have to go with no.

Dr. DVD 06-24-05 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by Terrell
Seeing him on the Today show this morning convinced me more than ever that Cruise has gone over the deep end with this Scientology BS. He came off ridiculous in his interview with Matt Lauer, touting himself as an expert in the history of drugs and pyschology. Plus his defense of his bushwacking Brooke Shields was just as repulsive. I could see in my mind Spielberg cringing at everything coming out of his mouth.

However, I don't think the film is doomed. It will make quite a bit of coin, though I don't see it as being some huge record-breaker. I predict in the 250-260 million dollar range, perhaps slightly more.


Would you like to wager on your prediction? Before Cruise's antics I was thinking it would be lucky to break $200 million, but with it I believe $150 miilion is a safer bet.

Jackskeleton 06-24-05 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
Well, there was a thread about Mr. and Mrs. Smith being doomed and since that was pretty much the opposite, I'd have to go with no.

It pains me to say this, But I agree with Popcorn on all marks here.

You have everyone interested in Tom right now. You also have it opening on the weekend of Fourth of July sort of holiday. There is no way that this wont make a big bang for the release. Crazy or not. people will want to watch this.

Dr. DVD 06-24-05 07:41 PM

I have reserved Dianetics at my local library to see what in the world scientology is all about. I find it interesting that L. Ron Hubbard was at a sci-fi writers convention and said "You know, the real money is in religion," and then a year later scientology was around. (This might be urban legend, but I heard that he did say that.)

jaeufraser 06-24-05 07:44 PM

While I do know some people who won't watch this movie because of him, I doubt most people really give a crap about that stuff. This is a big film, it looks great, reviews so far are quite positive (what few I've read). I don't think the Cruise factor will make too much a difference. This film ain't Gigli.

But it's hard to call...with regards to Mr and Mrs Smith, it's funny, because the very thing that thread said might hurt the movie, in fact helped it. So who knows.

Giantrobo 06-24-05 07:54 PM

Tom is an arrogant nut but I'll still see WotW.

Terrell 06-24-05 07:59 PM


uld you like to wager on your prediction? Before Cruise's antics I was thinking it would be lucky to break $200 million, but with it I believe $150 miilion is a safer bet.
Sure! Could be fun.

I used to like Tom Cruise. I think he's a good actor. But over the last 3 weeks, and especially after his interview with Matt Lauer this morning, I've lost a ton of respect for him. He's just more wacko than I ever thought he was. Then again, I never knew him. The only time he's come off looking good in the last month is when he was squirted with water.

DVDHO 06-24-05 08:08 PM

I dont wanna see this movie in the worst way,BUT im not going to let Tom ruin it for me,im going to see this because of Speilberg and it look's like a fun popcorn flick,I would pay 20 bucks for 1 ticket if Tom wasnt in this film,after this I will not pay to see another Cruise Film,sorry MI:3 but I will pass.

Brain Stew 06-24-05 08:20 PM

Honestly? I have no interest in seeing War of the Worlds. It looks pretty lame.

Joe Molotov 06-24-05 08:31 PM

Nah, I doubt Cruise's offscreen theatrics will have any impact on the movie's gross.

DRG 06-24-05 08:52 PM

I'm going to WotW more because of Spielberg than any of the stars.

fumanstan 06-24-05 09:06 PM

No. But if WotW isn't a success, he'll get the blame.

mdc3000 06-24-05 09:18 PM

not doomed... here's the one reason why it will be huge: SPIELBERG. I don't care if he did this movie with an all midget cast, it is Spielberg doing a big blockbuster with ALIENS... enough said.

MATT

jaeufraser 06-24-05 09:26 PM

Yeah, and it is coming out 4th of July weekend.

Even if TC's craziness hurts the box office, this film will still have an insanely huge weekend. Whether it can reach mega blockbuster status is up in the air, but I'd be pretty confident in saying this will be Tom Cruise's highest grossing movie of his entire career, with or without his nuttiness. It only needs to make 200 US, or 500 worldwide to get there. yes, that's big money, but I think this'll sail right past those figures and give TC his biggest hit.

milo bloom 06-24-05 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by mdc3000
not doomed... here's the one reason why it will be huge: SPIELBERG. I don't care if he did this movie with an all midget cast, it is Spielberg doing a big blockbuster with ALIENS... enough said.

MATT


I was going to make a pithy "Tom Cruise who?" comment, but that one trumps mine. This is Spielberg all the way baby.

Shannon Nutt 06-24-05 09:32 PM

Doomed? It will probably wind up being the second biggest hit of the summer, next to ROTS.

Dr. DVD 06-24-05 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by Terrell
Sure! Could be fun.

I used to like Tom Cruise. I think he's a good actor. But over the last 3 weeks, and especially after his interview with Matt Lauer this morning, I've lost a ton of respect for him. He's just more wacko than I ever thought he was. Then again, I never knew him. The only time he's come off looking good in the last month is when he was squirted with water.


Okay then, got any OOP DVDs you want to wager, or maybe some you don't care if you part with? Why not have some fun? :)

Josh H 06-24-05 09:40 PM

Won't effect it in the least.

Just as dumb and idea as the thread suggesting Mr. and Mrs. Smith was doomed because people wouldn't see it b/c of the rumors that it was the reason Brad and Jen got divorced.

People don't care about that kind of stuff. Maybe if the star was convicted of raping and murdering a child people would stay home. But the star acting a little nutty on Oprah and the Today show will have no effect. Hell, the biggest chunk of money for this movie will probably come from the 25 and under crowd, most of whom don't watch Oprah and the Today show and at worst heard about his antics on E or something.

Dr. DVD 06-24-05 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Won't effect it in the least.

Just as dumb and idea as the thread suggesting Mr. and Mrs. Smith was doomed because people wouldn't see it b/c of the rumors that it was the reason Brad and Jen got divorced.

Dude, I'm just doing this as a form of self-amusement and half-way out of jest. FWIW, our opinions on this forum don't amount to a hill of beans in the real world. I just like to get the opinions of a bunch of people I have something in common with on a subject and/or question I find of interest.

I would never intend for these polls to be a true guage of anything other than curiousity.

JumpCutz 06-24-05 10:08 PM

The nutty promosexual aside, this film will make a ton of money.

As previously mentioned this is Spielberg doing a nasty alien take.

I understand this has a 'Saving Private Ryan' tone and feel, albeit in the SF genre.

I'm VERY curious.

I'll be there on the 29th.

Terrell 06-24-05 10:25 PM


Okay then, got any OOP DVDs you want to wager, or maybe some you don't care if you part with? Why not have some fun?
I'm not sure what may be OOP or not. I haven't kept up with my DVD library all that much over the last year or so. My DVD collection is about as standard as you can get. At this point Doc, I don't think I do have any OOP titles.

Anything in particular you're looking for? Let me look to see what I'd be willing to wager.

Zombie67 06-24-05 10:45 PM

It'll do well.
I just can't stand that crazy turkey!

Matthew Chmiel 06-24-05 11:12 PM

FUCK War of the Worlds. I'm seeing this on the 4th of July weekend!

http://www.actuacine.net/Poster/rebound.jpg

Screw Spielberg when I can see that funny man Martin Lawerence coach a middle school basketball team!

Kal-El 06-24-05 11:38 PM

0/5 for this thread.
:down: :down:

what the fuck is with this board's obsession of anticipating "doom" for summer movies?

Breakfast with Girls 06-24-05 11:44 PM

No. Why on Earth would you think that? The vast majority of people don't give a shit about interviews for movies.

Dr. DVD 06-25-05 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Terrell
I'm not sure what may be OOP or not. I haven't kept up with my DVD library all that much over the last year or so. My DVD collection is about as standard as you can get. At this point Doc, I don't think I do have any OOP titles.

Anything in particular you're looking for? Let me look to see what I'd be willing to wager.


Got the Bond titles of Moonraker of For Your Eyes Only by any chance? If you want to make this low value DVDs that's ok, I got plenty o crap I can part with!

Dr. DVD 06-25-05 08:51 AM

Also, I saw a critic on Paula Zahn/CNN last night (Brian or Dennis O'Neil I think, but not sure) , and he thinks that Cruise knows his career is falling apart and that WotW is a huge turkey and Cruise knows it. He also said that he heard rumors WotW is the most costly film in history with a budget of $230 million. In all honesty, I didn't see him as having much credibility.

Giantrobo 06-25-05 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Kal-El
0/5 for this thread.
:down: :down:

what the fuck is with this board's obsession of anticipating "doom" for summer movies?


Dude, it's a site based on movies and most here think they know best and are at the very least junior snobs. :lol: It's just like a Sports Forum where they all predict wins and losses by X number of points and what have you.

Plus people like to see the failure of others....

Jackskeleton 06-25-05 09:44 AM

But when you factor in the previous attempt on asking if a film will fail turned out to be a huge success regardless of any media attention in the negative light, It's pretty clear that WotW will not suffer any.

Terrell 06-25-05 10:37 AM


Got the Bond titles of Moonraker of For Your Eyes Only by any chance?
Believe it or not, I don't have a single Bond title. If I did, I'd be glad to bet one of those.


If you want to make this low value DVDs that's ok, I got plenty o crap I can part with!
About all I've got that I'd be willing to part with is the Evil Dead trilogy, Tora Tora Tora, and Grumpy Old Men. :lol: Not a hell of a lot is it? If that doesn't float your boat, maybe we can come up with something else. :D

Giantrobo 06-25-05 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
But when you factor in the previous attempt on asking if a film will fail turned out to be a huge success regardless of any media attention in the negative light, It's pretty clear that WotW will not suffer any.


Yep. :up:

jaeufraser 06-25-05 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
Also, I saw a critic on Paula Zahn/CNN last night (Brian or Dennis O'Neil I think, but not sure) , and he thinks that Cruise knows his career is falling apart and that WotW is a huge turkey and Cruise knows it. He also said that he heard rumors WotW is the most costly film in history with a budget of $230 million. In all honesty, I didn't see him as having much credibility.

Yeah, I think it's safe to say he's full of crap. The movie isn't the most costly in history (more like 128 million), the few reviews that have surfaced have all been very positive, and quite frankly...this movie is probably going to be Tom Cruise's highest grosser ever.

Doesn't sound like the end of his career at all.

matome 06-25-05 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
Well, there was a thread about Mr. and Mrs. Smith being doomed and since that was pretty much the opposite, I'd have to go with no.

:up:

Mr. Cinema 06-25-05 05:29 PM

This will be #2 behind Star Wars for top grossing movie of the Summer. I for one could care less what Cruise does in his spare time. The guy is one of my favorite actors, Spielberg is my favorite director, and this looks like it's gonna be a very good sci-fi thriller.

Dr. DVD 06-25-05 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Terrell
Believe it or not, I don't have a single Bond title. If I did, I'd be glad to bet one of those.



About all I've got that I'd be willing to part with is the Evil Dead trilogy, Tora Tora Tora, and Grumpy Old Men. :lol: Not a hell of a lot is it? If that doesn't float your boat, maybe we can come up with something else. :D


Got any unique Star Wars figures? Or perhaps we can just make an agreement that I will hush up about trying to defend Star Wars EU as canon if WotW makes over $200 million and you will not say anything about it not being canon if I win! :D

cupon 06-25-05 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by DVDHO
...im going to see this because of Speilberg...


Originally Posted by DRG
I'm going to WotW more because of Spielberg than any of the stars.


Originally Posted by mdc3000
not doomed... here's the one reason why it will be huge: SPIELBERG

The fact that Tom Cruise stars in the film makes no difference. You can swap him with any A-List or Z-List actor and the film will make the same amount of money. People are seeing it for Spielberg. Folks didn't go to Jurassic Park to watch Sam Neill, they didn't go to ST: RotS to see Hayden, and they didn't go to Batman Returns to see Katie Holmes. It's all about the director and the thrill. Tom's an oddball, but he's still a decent actor.

tasha99 06-25-05 10:30 PM

I think the movie will do well, but Tom's friends really should do an intervention.

RyoHazuki 06-25-05 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by cupon
The fact that Tom Cruise stars in the film makes no difference. You can swap him with any A-List or Z-List actor and the film will make the same amount of money. People are seeing it for Spielberg. Folks didn't go to Jurassic Park to watch Sam Neill, they didn't go to ST: RotS to see Hayden, and they didn't go to Batman Returns to see Katie Holmes. It's all about the director and the thrill. Tom's an oddball, but he's still a decent actor.

I'm pretty sure J6P didn't see Batman because of Nolan.


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