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slacker6 06-30-05 12:22 PM

Will not go see it in the theater.

If it's worth a damn, I'll borrow it from a friend who buys/rents it and then watch.

This way I see the film but don't contribute any money to Cruise's idiocy.

I win:)

FinkPish 06-30-05 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by slacker6
Will not go see it in the theater.

If it's worth a damn, I'll borrow it from a friend who buys/rents it and then watch.

This way I see the film but don't contribute any money to Cruise's idiocy.

I win:)

So you are not seeing it in theaters out of spite? That seems like idiocy to me.

Mopower 06-30-05 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by slacker6

I win:)

Yep you do. As soon as I find a "Dumbest Post in this Thread" award I'll give it to you.

DVD King 06-30-05 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by FinkPish
So you are not seeing it in theaters out of spite? That seems like idiocy to me.

Yeah, surprisingly it seems like i'm one of the few who think this whole situation with Cruise has been blown way out of proportion by the media.

Dubya 06-30-05 02:00 PM

Just read that it made $21.8 million yesterday

FinkPish 06-30-05 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by DVD King
Yeah, surprisingly it seems like i'm one of the few who think this whole situation with Cruise has been blown way out of proportion by the media.

I think it has too. The media, at least certain parts of it, seem intent on finding anything and anyone they can drag down and expose, no matter how petty it is.

Mr. Cinema 06-30-05 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Dubya
Just read that it made $21.8 million yesterday

That's a great start. Box Office Mojo was predicting a $115 million take the first week. Not sure if that included the 4th holiday.

DRG 06-30-05 02:30 PM

Looks like the 7th biggest opening Wednesday figure...
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime...age=wed&p=.htm

mikehunt 06-30-05 02:54 PM

WotW had a lot of problems, Cruise and the other actors were not one of them
I don't understand the hate towards him. so what if he's a scientologist he's not preaching his religion in his movies. And almost all his performaces I've seen are good.

Kal-El 06-30-05 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by DVD King
Yeah, surprisingly it seems like i'm one of the few who think this whole situation with Cruise has been blown way out of proportion by the internet fanboys who're secretly jealous that Tom's in Katie's pants.

Fixed. :D

Deftones 06-30-05 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Dubya
Just read that it made $21.8 million yesterday

I read $21.4 million, but either way, that's a buttload of scratch for a Wednesday opening.

Dr. DVD 06-30-05 03:53 PM

It made more in its first day than The Terminal did its opening weekend I think.

While that is good, I noticed that rottentomatoes dropped from 82% Fresh to 72% fresh rather quickly. However, the mainstream critics all seem to like it.

Terrell 06-30-05 06:52 PM


that's a buttload of scratch for a Wednesday opening.
That's a good chunk of change, but with ticket prices it's nowhere near as impressive as it used to be, especially for a big even summer film.

Frank TJ Mackey 06-30-05 07:25 PM

Cruise's best one-day worldwide opening ever.


LOS ANGELES (AFP) -- Steven Spielberg's epic "War of the Worlds" raked in 34.6 million dollars worldwide on its first day on screens, the biggest opening ever for a movie starring Tom Cruise, producers said.

The 135-million-dollar adaptation of HG Wells' 1989 science fiction novel notched up a whopping 21.3 million dollars in the United States and Canada alone, where it debuted Wednesday on 3,908 screens, Paramount Pictures said.

The ticket receipts represented the largest opening day in the history of Paramount Pictures as well as the largest opening day for a Tom Cruise movie, the studio said.

"We're ecstatic; this is just the beginning of a long and successful run at box offices around the globe," said the studio's vice chairman Rob Friedman.

"We've got a dream team of Tom Cruise and Steven Spielberg and they've both delivered yet again," he added in a statement.

slacker6 06-30-05 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by FinkPish
So you are not seeing it in theaters out of spite? That seems like idiocy to me.


To each his/her own. Enjoy dropping $30 at the theater. My 110" screen at home works just fine. Like I said, some friend will buy it and I'll borrow it. No biggie to me. Maybe I'd like to see it but just feel like contributing any money to certified lunatic. Go ahead and do so if you'd like. For one, I'm tired of his religious over-promotion and just prefer to not spend my money on someone who stoops to such antics in a publicity effort. The only person blowing this entire thing out of proportion is TC because he can't keep his mouth shut.

Hey, I'll be the first to go see an ORIGINAL movie at the theater and not another remake. I saw Sideways and didn't mind paying as the concept and story were new. This isn't. They need some originality in Hollywood and that is something I don't mind supporting.

Frankly, I didn't criticize any of you guys but only provided my thoughts and naturally I get a first grade type of response. Very intelligent in my book. You can tell school is out for the summer with that your overly negative responses.

EDIT: I guess I could use my Regal corporate pass, take 8 people to see it and not pay a damn dime. Happy now?

superdeluxe 06-30-05 07:27 PM

Doom and gloom is all crap...the audience is going in large numbers...and they are for the most part likiing it.

slacker6 06-30-05 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by Terrell
That's a good chunk of change, but with ticket prices it's nowhere near as impressive as it used to be, especially for a big even summer film.

Excellent point, someone should run the inflationary figures for older opening to draw a comparison.

Dr. DVD 06-30-05 07:39 PM

But don't forget, analysts in America will only count U.S. receipts when tallying its success! ;)

jaeufraser 06-30-05 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by slacker6
Excellent point, someone should run the inflationary figures for older opening to draw a comparison.

Honestly you won't find much of a comparison. Big Wednesday openers are not something you'll find much if you go back far enough, and opening weekends have in general grown quite a bit (becoming a much more important part of the box office equation) over the last 20 years. Even if you compared, you'd still find this opening high on the list.

And I think those reasons will keep these mega openings high on any OW list. For instance, I know Temple of Doom opened to 25 million in 1984. Even adjusted I doubt that would equal more then 50 million dollars, which means less then 20 million dollar days adjusted. Batman in 1989 opened to 40 million dolalrs. Adjusted that probably barely tops 20 million a day (if that). These examples are of opening weekends and don't have weekdays involved. Of course, I'm guessing on my inflation, but simple truth is increased theater count, increased marketibility, and more dependance on opening weekend versus overall gross means these big openings we see today even when compared to movies of old will still rank at the top.

FinkPish 06-30-05 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by slacker6
To each his/her own. Enjoy dropping $30 at the theater. My 110" screen at home works just fine. Like I said, some friend will buy it and I'll borrow it. No biggie to me. Maybe I'd like to see it but just feel like contributing any money to certified lunatic. Go ahead and do so if you'd like. For one, I'm tired of his religious over-promotion and just prefer to not spend my money on someone who stoops to such antics in a publicity effort. The only person blowing this entire thing out of proportion is TC because he can't keep his mouth shut.

Hey, I'll be the first to go see an ORIGINAL movie at the theater and not another remake. I saw Sideways and didn't mind paying as the concept and story were new. This isn't. They need some originality in Hollywood and that is something I don't mind supporting.

Frankly, I didn't criticize any of you guys but only provided my thoughts and naturally I get a first grade type of response. Very intelligent in my book. You can tell school is out for the summer with that your overly negative responses.

EDIT: I guess I could use my Regal corporate pass, take 8 people to see it and not pay a damn dime. Happy now?

First of all, just because you tried to mask your insults doesn't cease to make them insults. Also, I wasn't attacking you, I just didn't understand your reasoning.

Tom Cruise gets paid whether you go to see the movie or not. His paycheck doesn't rely solely on your admission. He probably gets backend from ticket sales, but he's probably getting a nice chunk up front.

I really don't care if you go to see the movie or not; like you said, it's your perogative. But the idea that you wouldn't go see a movie because you don't like someone's current behaviour seems strange.

Edit to your edit: What is with this smarmy attitude? I don't give a shit if you see the movie or not. I have nothing invested in the movie, personally or financially. All I care about is if I like it.

slacker6 06-30-05 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by FinkPish
First of all, just because you tried to mask your insults doesn't cease to make them insults. Also, I wasn't attacking you, I just didn't understand your reasoning.

Tom Cruise gets paid whether you go to see the movie or not. His paycheck doesn't rely solely on your admission. He probably gets backend from ticket sales, but he's probably getting a nice chunk up front.

I really don't care if you go to see the movie or not; like you said, it's your perogative. But the idea that you wouldn't go see a movie because you don't like someone's current behaviour seems strange.

Edit to your edit: What is with this smarmy attitude? I don't give a shit if you see the movie or not. I have nothing invested in the movie, personally or financially. All I care about is if I like it.


Fine, we'll agree to disagree. I am just tired of seeing TC every damn where I look...TV, internet, newspaper, magazine, etc. Just seems to be a prime example of over-exposure and his grand-standing only worsens it. Maybe this film serves some personal reference for him since he is confident "we are not alone".

Mopower 07-01-05 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by slacker6
To each his/her own. Enjoy dropping $30 at the theater.

Where the hell do you go to see a movie at? I payed $6. And that was at 7pm. I'd rather see it now on a 30 ft screen than 6 months from now on your 110 inch.

slacker6 07-01-05 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Mopower
Where the hell do you go to see a movie at? I payed $6. And that was at 7pm. I'd rather see it now on a 30 ft screen than 6 months from now on your 110 inch.

Not in Iowa or Nebraska where they grow corn:)

Really, the wife and I can use the corporate pass and go for free to the Regal cinema but for the average couple here in tourist town:

2 tickets at $9= $18
2 drinks/popcorn = $10 if you're lucky

$28 plus ringing cell phones and people yapping during the film.

Mopower 07-01-05 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by slacker6
Not in Iowa or Nebraska where they grow corn:)

Really, the wife and I can use the corporate pass and go for free to the Regal cinema but for the average couple here in tourist town:

2 tickets at $9= $18
2 drinks/popcorn = $10 if you're lucky

$28 plus ringing cell phones and people yapping during the film.


Ok. You're right. I'd wait too. :lol:

pdinosaur 07-01-05 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by slacker6
Fine, we'll agree to disagree. I am just tired of seeing TC every damn where I look...TV, internet, newspaper, magazine, etc. Just seems to be a prime example of over-exposure and his grand-standing only worsens it. Maybe this film serves some personal reference for him since he is confident "we are not alone".

to what extent is this tom cruise's doing? it's his job to promote the movie. the over exposure is due in large part due to his beliefs, not his grandstanding. the media is protraying him as a psycho, and as michael jackson will tell you, the media loves talking about, if not obsessing over, wackos.

the water squirters have shown the world that tom can be quite a cool guy. so let him believe what he wants and don't hate him for being honest about them.

slacker6 07-01-05 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by pdinosaur
to what extent is this tom cruise's doing? it's his job to promote the movie. the over exposure is due in large part due to his beliefs, not his grandstanding. the media is protraying him as a psycho, and as michael jackson will tell you, the media loves talking about, if not obsessing over, wackos.

the water squirters have shown the world that tom can be quite a cool guy. so let him believe what he wants and don't hate him for being honest about them.

I'm tired of seeing him everywhere and you obviously are not. Just a difference of opinion. I do question his sincerity on certain issues since he seems to be trying extremely hard to convey them. Maybe he is honest about these things but maybe he is just trying to garner attention. Could go either way. Only he knows but it's up to you and I to individually interpret his actions and words.

Yes the media loves talking about it but he also uses the media to promote his thoughts that consistently involve professing love, religion and his thoughts on aliens, I just have to question the need for that. Next he'll be discussing his toilet paper preference at this pace.

I'll bet TC loves being lumped in whacko status with Jacko:)

mikeporter 07-03-05 10:53 AM

WOW opened with $101 million 5-day, $66 million weekend. -biggrin-

Josh H 07-03-05 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by slacker6
Not in Iowa or Nebraska where they grow corn:)

Really, the wife and I can use the corporate pass and go for free to the Regal cinema but for the average couple here in tourist town:

2 tickets at $9= $18
2 drinks/popcorn = $10 if you're lucky

$28 plus ringing cell phones and people yapping during the film.


No sense factoring in concessions, they're not required. Just don't eat or drink (especially unhealthy soda and popcorn) during the movie or sneak in your own).

Then you have $18 for 2 people, which I think is well worth it for a movie on the big screen. Even better go to an early showing and get in for $2 or 3 bucks less a piece when it's much less crowded thus elminating the cell phones and people yapping most of the times.

mikeporter 07-03-05 11:04 AM

WOW is the sixth consecutive $100 million Tom Cruise movie: -biggrin-
05 War of the Worlds $101,682,000
04 Collateral $101,005,703
03 Last Samurai $111,127,263
02 Minority Report $132,072,926
01 Vanilla Sky $100,618,344
00 Mission: Impossible II $215,409,889

Jackskeleton 07-03-05 01:42 PM

Can we now and forever ban "Okay, is ______ Doomed?" threads?

matome 07-03-05 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
Can we now and forever ban "Okay, is ______ Doomed?" threads?

:up:

ROBERTCOP34 07-03-05 02:02 PM

Watch for the total's in it's second week at the box-office it's going to drop big-time..

Joe Molotov 07-03-05 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
Can we now and forever ban "Okay, is ______ Doomed?" threads?

Okay, are "Okay, is ______ Doomed" threads doomed?

The Cow 07-03-05 02:14 PM

As you see from your poll, it doesn't really matter who is in it. And from a crosspoint, I don't care much for Speilberg (shoot me now, or whatever), but still gave it a go.

Jackskeleton 07-03-05 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by ROBERTCOP34
Watch for the total's in it's second week at the box-office it's going to drop big-time..


Welcome to the wonderful world of Summer movies. Drops aren't anything uncommon for summer films since it's usually back to back blockbusters.

Though, I have to wonder if Fantastic Four will actually come in second next week.

matome 07-03-05 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Jackskeleton

Though, I have to wonder if Fantastic Four will actually come in second next week.

Yep, I do see flop written on that one.

Frank TJ Mackey 07-03-05 07:25 PM

It's hard to believe a studio would put out a lesser comic book movie (compared to Super & Bat) and not have a big star headlining it.

I mean most regular people who don't keep up with movie news etc. probably don't have a clue who any of these people are.

I also doubt anyone who watched The Commish on TV years ago will be seeing it either.

They are going to lose a lot of money on FF.

Jackskeleton 07-03-05 08:06 PM

The Commish may be very old, but The Shield is new and in the minds of many fans who will relate Michael Chiklis with it. nip/tuck has the relation of Julian McMahon. So it's an F/X filled movie.

Toss in Jessica Alba who is established enough from Sin City and her past along as head lining an upcoming film that she can take it.

Again, anything not gained in domestic box office will be brought in through DVD sales, international take in and merchindise alone. I mean, it's not like SBC is using all that for their wireless ads. ;)

So even without a big hollywood A lister cast, the movie is getting enough promotion.


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