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Old 06-28-05, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by William Fuld
If Dr. DVD loses the bet the mods should change his name to "Dr. Doomed".

Ironically, I went as that Fantastic Four character one Halloween, minus the "ed" part of course.


With my lack of luck with women, I am thankful no one has changed my name to "Dr. DUD."
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Old 06-29-05, 07:27 PM
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Any one care to vote now that the movie is out to the public?
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I think it's safe to say War of the Worlds is doomed to make lots of money.
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Originally Posted by jaeufraser
I think it's safe to say War of the Worlds is doomed to make lots of money.
I pray for this kind of damnation daily.
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Will not go see it in the theater.

If it's worth a damn, I'll borrow it from a friend who buys/rents it and then watch.

This way I see the film but don't contribute any money to Cruise's idiocy.

I win
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Originally Posted by slacker6
Will not go see it in the theater.

If it's worth a damn, I'll borrow it from a friend who buys/rents it and then watch.

This way I see the film but don't contribute any money to Cruise's idiocy.

I win
So you are not seeing it in theaters out of spite? That seems like idiocy to me.
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Originally Posted by slacker6

I win
Yep you do. As soon as I find a "Dumbest Post in this Thread" award I'll give it to you.
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So you are not seeing it in theaters out of spite? That seems like idiocy to me.
Yeah, surprisingly it seems like i'm one of the few who think this whole situation with Cruise has been blown way out of proportion by the media.
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Just read that it made $21.8 million yesterday
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Yeah, surprisingly it seems like i'm one of the few who think this whole situation with Cruise has been blown way out of proportion by the media.
I think it has too. The media, at least certain parts of it, seem intent on finding anything and anyone they can drag down and expose, no matter how petty it is.
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Just read that it made $21.8 million yesterday
That's a great start. Box Office Mojo was predicting a $115 million take the first week. Not sure if that included the 4th holiday.
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Looks like the 7th biggest opening Wednesday figure...
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime...age=wed&p=.htm
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WotW had a lot of problems, Cruise and the other actors were not one of them
I don't understand the hate towards him. so what if he's a scientologist he's not preaching his religion in his movies. And almost all his performaces I've seen are good.
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Originally Posted by DVD King
Yeah, surprisingly it seems like i'm one of the few who think this whole situation with Cruise has been blown way out of proportion by the internet fanboys who're secretly jealous that Tom's in Katie's pants.
Fixed.
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Originally Posted by Dubya
Just read that it made $21.8 million yesterday
I read $21.4 million, but either way, that's a buttload of scratch for a Wednesday opening.
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It made more in its first day than The Terminal did its opening weekend I think.

While that is good, I noticed that rottentomatoes dropped from 82% Fresh to 72% fresh rather quickly. However, the mainstream critics all seem to like it.
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that's a buttload of scratch for a Wednesday opening.
That's a good chunk of change, but with ticket prices it's nowhere near as impressive as it used to be, especially for a big even summer film.
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Cruise's best one-day worldwide opening ever.


LOS ANGELES (AFP) -- Steven Spielberg's epic "War of the Worlds" raked in 34.6 million dollars worldwide on its first day on screens, the biggest opening ever for a movie starring Tom Cruise, producers said.

The 135-million-dollar adaptation of HG Wells' 1989 science fiction novel notched up a whopping 21.3 million dollars in the United States and Canada alone, where it debuted Wednesday on 3,908 screens, Paramount Pictures said.

The ticket receipts represented the largest opening day in the history of Paramount Pictures as well as the largest opening day for a Tom Cruise movie, the studio said.

"We're ecstatic; this is just the beginning of a long and successful run at box offices around the globe," said the studio's vice chairman Rob Friedman.

"We've got a dream team of Tom Cruise and Steven Spielberg and they've both delivered yet again," he added in a statement.
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Originally Posted by FinkPish
So you are not seeing it in theaters out of spite? That seems like idiocy to me.

To each his/her own. Enjoy dropping $30 at the theater. My 110" screen at home works just fine. Like I said, some friend will buy it and I'll borrow it. No biggie to me. Maybe I'd like to see it but just feel like contributing any money to certified lunatic. Go ahead and do so if you'd like. For one, I'm tired of his religious over-promotion and just prefer to not spend my money on someone who stoops to such antics in a publicity effort. The only person blowing this entire thing out of proportion is TC because he can't keep his mouth shut.

Hey, I'll be the first to go see an ORIGINAL movie at the theater and not another remake. I saw Sideways and didn't mind paying as the concept and story were new. This isn't. They need some originality in Hollywood and that is something I don't mind supporting.

Frankly, I didn't criticize any of you guys but only provided my thoughts and naturally I get a first grade type of response. Very intelligent in my book. You can tell school is out for the summer with that your overly negative responses.

EDIT: I guess I could use my Regal corporate pass, take 8 people to see it and not pay a damn dime. Happy now?

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Old 06-30-05, 07:27 PM
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Doom and gloom is all crap...the audience is going in large numbers...and they are for the most part likiing it.
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Originally Posted by Terrell
That's a good chunk of change, but with ticket prices it's nowhere near as impressive as it used to be, especially for a big even summer film.
Excellent point, someone should run the inflationary figures for older opening to draw a comparison.
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But don't forget, analysts in America will only count U.S. receipts when tallying its success!
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Originally Posted by slacker6
Excellent point, someone should run the inflationary figures for older opening to draw a comparison.
Honestly you won't find much of a comparison. Big Wednesday openers are not something you'll find much if you go back far enough, and opening weekends have in general grown quite a bit (becoming a much more important part of the box office equation) over the last 20 years. Even if you compared, you'd still find this opening high on the list.

And I think those reasons will keep these mega openings high on any OW list. For instance, I know Temple of Doom opened to 25 million in 1984. Even adjusted I doubt that would equal more then 50 million dollars, which means less then 20 million dollar days adjusted. Batman in 1989 opened to 40 million dolalrs. Adjusted that probably barely tops 20 million a day (if that). These examples are of opening weekends and don't have weekdays involved. Of course, I'm guessing on my inflation, but simple truth is increased theater count, increased marketibility, and more dependance on opening weekend versus overall gross means these big openings we see today even when compared to movies of old will still rank at the top.
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Originally Posted by slacker6
To each his/her own. Enjoy dropping $30 at the theater. My 110" screen at home works just fine. Like I said, some friend will buy it and I'll borrow it. No biggie to me. Maybe I'd like to see it but just feel like contributing any money to certified lunatic. Go ahead and do so if you'd like. For one, I'm tired of his religious over-promotion and just prefer to not spend my money on someone who stoops to such antics in a publicity effort. The only person blowing this entire thing out of proportion is TC because he can't keep his mouth shut.

Hey, I'll be the first to go see an ORIGINAL movie at the theater and not another remake. I saw Sideways and didn't mind paying as the concept and story were new. This isn't. They need some originality in Hollywood and that is something I don't mind supporting.

Frankly, I didn't criticize any of you guys but only provided my thoughts and naturally I get a first grade type of response. Very intelligent in my book. You can tell school is out for the summer with that your overly negative responses.

EDIT: I guess I could use my Regal corporate pass, take 8 people to see it and not pay a damn dime. Happy now?
First of all, just because you tried to mask your insults doesn't cease to make them insults. Also, I wasn't attacking you, I just didn't understand your reasoning.

Tom Cruise gets paid whether you go to see the movie or not. His paycheck doesn't rely solely on your admission. He probably gets backend from ticket sales, but he's probably getting a nice chunk up front.

I really don't care if you go to see the movie or not; like you said, it's your perogative. But the idea that you wouldn't go see a movie because you don't like someone's current behaviour seems strange.

Edit to your edit: What is with this smarmy attitude? I don't give a shit if you see the movie or not. I have nothing invested in the movie, personally or financially. All I care about is if I like it.

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