View Poll Results: Has Tom Cruise doomed War of the Worlds
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Okay, is War of the Worlds doomed?
06-25-05, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Terrell
I'm not sure what may be OOP or not. I haven't kept up with my DVD library all that much over the last year or so. My DVD collection is about as standard as you can get. At this point Doc, I don't think I do have any OOP titles.
Anything in particular you're looking for? Let me look to see what I'd be willing to wager.
Anything in particular you're looking for? Let me look to see what I'd be willing to wager.
Got the Bond titles of Moonraker of For Your Eyes Only by any chance? If you want to make this low value DVDs that's ok, I got plenty o crap I can part with!
06-25-05, 08:51 AM
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Also, I saw a critic on Paula Zahn/CNN last night (Brian or Dennis O'Neil I think, but not sure) , and he thinks that Cruise knows his career is falling apart and that WotW is a huge turkey and Cruise knows it. He also said that he heard rumors WotW is the most costly film in history with a budget of $230 million. In all honesty, I didn't see him as having much credibility.
06-25-05, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Kal-El
0/5 for this thread.
what the fuck is with this board's obsession of anticipating "doom" for summer movies?
what the fuck is with this board's obsession of anticipating "doom" for summer movies?
Dude, it's a site based on movies and most here think they know best and are at the very least junior snobs.
It's just like a Sports Forum where they all predict wins and losses by X number of points and what have you.Plus people like to see the failure of others....
06-25-05, 09:44 AM
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But when you factor in the previous attempt on asking if a film will fail turned out to be a huge success regardless of any media attention in the negative light, It's pretty clear that WotW will not suffer any.
06-25-05, 10:37 AM
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Got the Bond titles of Moonraker of For Your Eyes Only by any chance?
If you want to make this low value DVDs that's ok, I got plenty o crap I can part with!
Not a hell of a lot is it? If that doesn't float your boat, maybe we can come up with something else. 
06-25-05, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
But when you factor in the previous attempt on asking if a film will fail turned out to be a huge success regardless of any media attention in the negative light, It's pretty clear that WotW will not suffer any.
Yep.
06-25-05, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
Also, I saw a critic on Paula Zahn/CNN last night (Brian or Dennis O'Neil I think, but not sure) , and he thinks that Cruise knows his career is falling apart and that WotW is a huge turkey and Cruise knows it. He also said that he heard rumors WotW is the most costly film in history with a budget of $230 million. In all honesty, I didn't see him as having much credibility.
Doesn't sound like the end of his career at all.
06-25-05, 05:29 PM
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This will be #2 behind Star Wars for top grossing movie of the Summer. I for one could care less what Cruise does in his spare time. The guy is one of my favorite actors, Spielberg is my favorite director, and this looks like it's gonna be a very good sci-fi thriller.
06-25-05, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrell
Believe it or not, I don't have a single Bond title. If I did, I'd be glad to bet one of those.
About all I've got that I'd be willing to part with is the Evil Dead trilogy, Tora Tora Tora, and Grumpy Old Men. Not a hell of a lot is it? If that doesn't float your boat, maybe we can come up with something else.
About all I've got that I'd be willing to part with is the Evil Dead trilogy, Tora Tora Tora, and Grumpy Old Men.
Not a hell of a lot is it? If that doesn't float your boat, maybe we can come up with something else. Got any unique Star Wars figures? Or perhaps we can just make an agreement that I will hush up about trying to defend Star Wars EU as canon if WotW makes over $200 million and you will not say anything about it not being canon if I win!
06-25-05, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DVDHO
...im going to see this because of Speilberg...
Originally Posted by DRG
I'm going to WotW more because of Spielberg than any of the stars.
Originally Posted by mdc3000
not doomed... here's the one reason why it will be huge: SPIELBERG
06-25-05, 10:30 PM
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I think the movie will do well, but Tom's friends really should do an intervention.
06-25-05, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cupon
The fact that Tom Cruise stars in the film makes no difference. You can swap him with any A-List or Z-List actor and the film will make the same amount of money. People are seeing it for Spielberg. Folks didn't go to Jurassic Park to watch Sam Neill, they didn't go to ST: RotS to see Hayden, and they didn't go to Batman Returns to see Katie Holmes. It's all about the director and the thrill. Tom's an oddball, but he's still a decent actor.
06-25-05, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RyoHazuki
I'm pretty sure J6P didn't see Batman because of Nolan.
But these aren't movie that hinge on star power in its commercial appeal. Though certainly Mr Cruise helps.
06-26-05, 12:07 AM
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Or perhaps we can just make an agreement that I will hush up about trying to defend Star Wars EU as canon if WotW makes over $200 million and you will not say anything about it not being canon if I win!
Deal! I'll tell you what I'll do if I lose. I'll put up a post with the thread title "Dr. DVD rules all!"
Got any unique Star Wars figures?
06-26-05, 12:27 AM
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the fact that Minority Report barely cleared $130 million in the U.S. I'm not convinced that Spielberg and Cruise are guaranteed to have box office dynamite going into War of the Worlds, especially since I think MR had much stronger trailers and previews going in, and it didn't have nearly the Cruise baggage (although he was finalizing his divorce from Kidman at the time). I was already on the fence about seeing WotW for the past few months, but I think I'll skip it now cause I'm just absolutely sick of Cruise lately. I can wait to borrow the DVD off someone this fall.
06-26-05, 01:25 AM
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I'm curious to see how Spielberg handles the way the aliens die, especially with the way studios are these days. It doesn't seem very exciting.
As far as Cruise, he could shove pencils up his and his woman's ass, and it wouldn't affect the movies I went to see. If they look like fun, I'll check them out.
As far as Cruise, he could shove pencils up his and his woman's ass, and it wouldn't affect the movies I went to see. If they look like fun, I'll check them out.
06-26-05, 01:35 AM
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the fact that Minority Report barely cleared $130 million in the U.S. I'm not convinced that Spielberg and Cruise are guaranteed to have box office dynamite going into War of the Worlds, especially since I think MR had much stronger trailers and previews going in, and it didn't have nearly the Cruise baggage (although he was finalizing his divorce from Kidman at the time).
06-26-05, 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by NitroJMS
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the fact that Minority Report barely cleared $130 million in the U.S. I'm not convinced that Spielberg and Cruise are guaranteed to have box office dynamite going into War of the Worlds
That is an incredible number. Sorry to break it to you.
LAST SAMURAI? $456 worldwide.
TERMINAL? $218 worldwide.
The Cruise and Spielberg guns still have plenty of powder.
06-26-05, 02:32 AM
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It's amazing but sad how much the American press focuses only on what a movie makes here. Like you said, Samurai was a big hit internationally yet you'd never know it from U.S. analysts. And I can't count the number of times I saw "Troy" and the words "disappointment" or "flop", despite the fact the movie made nearly a half BILLION dollars counting overseas b.o. Them dollars all spend the same way, don't they?
06-26-05, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Sierra Disc
It's amazing but sad how much the American press focuses only on what a movie makes here. Like you said, Samurai was a big hit internationally yet you'd never know it from U.S. analysts. And I can't count the number of times I saw "Troy" and the words "disappointment" or "flop", despite the fact the movie made nearly a half BILLION dollars counting overseas b.o. Them dollars all spend the same way, don't they?
Good point. They act as if a movie is a bomb if it doesn't clear half a billion by Monday morning on it's opening weekend.
I would think most "bombs" more than make up for "lackluster" Domestic sales internationlly. Does anyone know if this is the case?
06-26-05, 04:35 AM
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I just see this as certain peoples' need to see someone, who has been so successful previously, crash and burn, especially when they are as over-exposed as Cruise is right now. It's schadenfreude, plain and simple.
I hope War of the Worlds is a great movie (and it looks to be), but even if it tanks, as long as I enjoyed it, I really couldn't care less what happens in the box office.
I hope War of the Worlds is a great movie (and it looks to be), but even if it tanks, as long as I enjoyed it, I really couldn't care less what happens in the box office.
06-26-05, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DVDHO
after this I will not pay to see another Cruise Film,sorry MI:3 but I will pass.
I just think it's silly to say, "I'm going to see this one because the movie looks like it's worth seeing, but NEVER AGAIN!"
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