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Old 06-26-05 | 02:42 PM
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the fact that Minority Report barely cleared $130 million in the U.S. I'm not convinced that Spielberg and Cruise are guaranteed to have box office dynamite going into War of the Worlds, especially since I think MR had much stronger trailers and previews going in, and it didn't have nearly the Cruise baggage (although he was finalizing his divorce from Kidman at the time). I was already on the fence about seeing WotW for the past few months, but I think I'll skip it now cause I'm just absolutely sick of Cruise lately. I can wait to borrow the DVD off someone this fall.
I'm sorry, but War of the Worlds is inherently a more palatable concept for a film then Minority Report. A family surviving an alien attack? Or a movie mystery about complex scifi issues and future cops? It's pretty easy to pick out the movie that has the wider commercial appeal.

And 130 million, and 358 million worldwide are not bad numbers. I'm not sure why everyone calls that film a flop. But WoTW just has so much more commercial appeal and every chance to stomp all over that film's grosses. On a pure concept level it just has more money potential.
Old 06-26-05 | 04:44 PM
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Deal! I'll tell you what I'll do if I lose. I'll put up a post with the thread title "Dr. DVD rules all!"



As huge a Star Wars fan as I am, I only collect the nicer books, the films, and the posters. I don't have any of the toys.

Fair enough!
Old 06-26-05 | 06:21 PM
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The fact that Tom Cruise stars in the film makes no difference. You can swap him with any A-List or Z-List actor and the film will make the same amount of money. People are seeing it for Spielberg. Folks didn't go to Jurassic Park to watch Sam Neill, they didn't go to ST: RotS to see Hayden, and they didn't go to Batman Returns to see Katie Holmes. It's all about the director and the thrill. Tom's an oddball, but he's still a decent actor.
There's a reason they put up a big CRUISE name during the previews, it's because he will sell tickets...more tickets than most. People like to root for a hero. And most root for Cruise.

BALDWIN - SPIELBERG - WAR OF THE WORLDS just doesn't have the same ring to it...
Old 06-26-05 | 08:13 PM
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I'm going to see this movie mainly because of Spielberg. Frankly, I'm sick of Cruise's antics off-screen, but he's still a pretty damn good actor. I don't particularly care what he does, what his beliefs are, or whom he's seeing, but it's on TV so often and people in my circles talk about it so much that I can't really avoid it.

From initial reviews, WotW looks to be a blockbuster by virtue of Spielberg's brand. I think Cruise still has legions of fans who will make the pilgrimage to their local theater to catch this. Coupled with a July 4th opening date, historically, one of the busiest weekends of the year for the box office, I'd say you have the formula for a blockbuster flick.
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I'm not concerned about Tom's insane real life antics and him acting like a hyper 14 yr old over Katie sure won't make me dislike "The Last Samurai" one bit.

As for the actual movie...i'm not to thrilled about it because i'm not keen on this "modern day" thing. But the real factor in my not wanting to see this movie is that i don't want to go to the theater and deal with rude movie-goers bullshit.

I'll wait and check it out on DVD and perhaps i might be suprised like i was with "The Last Samurai".
Old 06-27-05 | 08:26 AM
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I think it's gonna be huge!
Old 06-27-05 | 08:29 AM
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Nope. I'll be seeing it and think it'll do quite well.
Old 06-27-05 | 09:09 AM
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Well, there was a thread about Mr. and Mrs. Smith being doomed and since that was pretty much the opposite, I'd have to go with no.
That's what I was thinking.
Old 06-27-05 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
I have reserved Dianetics at my local library to see what in the world scientology is all about. I find it interesting that L. Ron Hubbard was at a sci-fi writers convention and said "You know, the real money is in religion," and then a year later scientology was around. (This might be urban legend, but I heard that he did say that.)

If you want to find out what scientology is all about, here are a couple good places to start:

http://www.scientology-kills.org/index.html
http://www.xenu.net/

I wish Matt Lauer could have done a little research at places like this and then brought it up with Tom - I never see these scientology celebrities confronted with some facts about their cult.
Old 06-27-05 | 11:41 AM
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I want to see war of the worlds because of the source material, not because of Spielberg or Cruise.
Old 06-27-05 | 12:39 PM
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it will do fine.
i am prodding a Theton as I type this.
Old 06-27-05 | 01:16 PM
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I never see these scientology celebrities confronted with some facts about their cult.
Well, at least it isn't Amway.

Tom Cruise acting crazy will have no effect on the box office of WotW.
Old 06-27-05 | 02:53 PM
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The simple fact is, Tom sure ain't helping its chances. That's for sure.

But, as many previous posters have said, I'll be seeing in despite T.C., not because of him. Miss a chance to see Spielberg play in his extraterrestrial sandbox, again? Are you kidding?

Pass the popcorn.
Old 06-27-05 | 05:49 PM
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While I totally disagree with Cruise on the Drugs for Depression thing (I am on Drugs & Therapy for depression, anxiety & tremors and probally would have killed myself long ago of not for it) I will see WotW because I love Big Budget Sci-Fi Flix, I don't care about the Cruise or Speilberg name being attached, I just want a Fun Popcorn Flick ala ID4, and not a stupid family drama with a few aliens thrown in from time to time.
Old 06-27-05 | 06:18 PM
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A very positive review over at CHUD.com. I'm even more excited to see this now.
Old 06-27-05 | 07:39 PM
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Devin gave it great review. He's pretty tough on most genre offerings.

This sounds like it's going to be pretty fantastic.

I can't wait to check out the critical consenus at RT come Wednesday.

With a gun to my head I say between 82-86 percent favorible.


I'm very curious about the ending.
Old 06-27-05 | 07:43 PM
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That gushing review makes me think the masses might not buy into it being so dark.
Old 06-27-05 | 08:13 PM
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Eh it's Spielberg. If it's really damn good, I have no doubt it'll clean up. Darkness didn't really hurt Episode 3.
Old 06-27-05 | 08:36 PM
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I think this will be considerably darker and more threatening than ROTS.


At least that's what I'm hoping for.

I agree this will clean up at the box office, TC's current media freak-outs aside.
Old 06-27-05 | 09:20 PM
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I just got out of a screening and I loved it. AWESOME> Two hours straight of action. However, it was very dark and most kids may be turned off by the loud noise and death.
Old 06-28-05 | 08:38 AM
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I think I'm done with Tom Cruise. He used to be my favorite actor, but the tide has turned against him for me. And it has nothing to do with his views on Scientology or his philosophies on life.

It has to do with his choice of film roles.

Once, Cruise was an actor's actor. Starring with the biggest in the industry when he was just a pup starting out - Paul Newman, Dustin Hoffman - and earning his chops with legendary performances.

I like a true-to-life Cruise. I really dislike the Action Hero Cruise of late, and that's what I view War of the Worlds as - an action hero flick, much like Independence Day with Will Smith.

Of course, I could be wrong about the premise of WotWs. Maybe Cruise doesn't save the world with fearless antics that would kill any other person. I didn't read the story, and the only version I'm familiar with is the Orsen Wells radio program that caused thousands to commit suicide (because of fear, not because the program sucked).

I hope I'm wrong. I hope this movie is not Independence Day, Part Deux. I know Speilberg can get a little PG-13 on us (save for war dramas).
Old 06-28-05 | 08:41 AM
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I think this will be considerably darker and more threatening than ROTS.
Trust me, it is.
Old 06-28-05 | 11:25 AM
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From what I have heard, what might be more likely to kill this movie is its dark mood and approach as opposed to the presence of Tom Cruise.
Old 06-28-05 | 11:57 AM
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From what I have heard, what might be more likely to kill this movie is its dark mood and approach as opposed to the presence of Tom Cruise.
Will you just admit that you aren't completely convinced that this movie will work until you see it with your own eyes? Every time someone throws something out there to give you some hope that the movie might actually be good, you knock it down immediately. This constant downer attitude is getting a bit old.
Old 06-28-05 | 11:59 AM
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If Dr. DVD loses the bet the mods should change his name to "Dr. Doomed".


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