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Old 05-22-05, 10:55 PM
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Because the old trilogy is the most interesting.
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The reason 4, 5 & 6 were shot first is because Lucas had a vision that Hayden Christenson would be born & that nobody else could play Anakin except him ... so he decided to wait till HC grew up ...
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But isnt it true that having Vader being Luke's father came up really late after filming ESB? I thought they even had another actor cast to play Anakin.

That slight change would've taken alot of air out of the entire series, unfilmed or not.
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I had always heard that he had all 6 written but the studio execs who he pitched the movies to for funding thought the first 3 were too slow so they wanted the action packed "meat" of the 6 movies
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I always thought he wanted to start his story in medias ras.

Kind of like The Odyssey.
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How horrendous of a character would Vader have been if Eps I to III came first? ROTS only works because we already know Darth Vader. I have no idea if this was intentional or not, but it was the right way to go.
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Originally Posted by cactusoly
this is really not that bad.... believe it or not, anyone who has ever had a wife or girlfriend can tell you that this is how couples really talk
Maybe a small percentage of couples talk like that, and most of them are in their pre-teens.
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Originally Posted by cactusoly
this is really not that bad.... believe it or not, anyone who has ever had a wife or girlfriend can tell you that this is how couples really talk

Um... no.
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Stop it, stop it, stop it. He did NOT start with Ep4 because "It was the most commercial" or whatever he says this week. Star Wars was always the story he wanted to tell. BBOISVERT pretty much nailed it. The prequels were merely a page or two of back story for Star Wars. I wish I'd saved it, but there was a interview with him (TV Guide, I think) where he basically said originally the Episode numbers were an affectation and he really had no intention of filming the first parts. It was just to give the impression of a serial. During Empire, he had pipe dreams about making 9 movies before he realized that the story was ultimately about Darth Vader. Seeing all 6, now it's obvious that that isn't really the case. Star Wars is about Luke Skywalker and gang and the Prequels are merely the filmed backstory. Not quite the same thing as a true six part saga. Just an expansion on some opening narration.

Anyway, here's what the original 9 part saga was going to be, from Cinescape.com and theForce.net a few years ago.

Gary Kurtz gave TPM a mixed review as he was clouded by plans made
for Episode 1 back in the early 70s. As someone involved with Star
Wars from the initial concepts, Kurtz revealed the original intentions
for the nine films as they were laid out BEFORE 1980. Very

* EPISODE 1: Was to focus on the origins of the Jedi Knights
and how they are initiated and trained
* EPISODE 2: Introduction and development of Obi-Wan Kenobi
* EPISODE 3: Introduction and life of Vader
* EPISODE 4: There were seven different drafts of the film. At
one point, they pursued buying the rights to Hidden Fortress
because of the strong similarities. At one point, Luke was a
female, Han was Luke's brother, Luke's father was the one in
prison (interesting point for some debates) and the film
featured 40 wookies
* EPISODE 5: Once written, the screenplay of Empire is almost
exactly what is seen on screen. The only cut scenes were those
involving wampas in the rebel base (cut because of time and
unsolved technical glitches) and about two minutes of
Luke/Yoda Jedi training with no real dialog.
* EPISODE 6: Leia was to be elected "Queen of her people"
leaving her isolated. Han was to die. Luke confronted Vader
and went on with his life alone. Leia was not to be Luke's sister.
* EPISODE 7: Third trilogy was to focus on Luke's life as a Jedi,
with very few details planned out.
* EPISODE 8: Luke's sister (not Leia) appears from another part
of the galaxy.
* EPISODE 9: First appearance of the Emperor.
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Why did Leonard start at Part Six?
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Originally Posted by slateef
bboisvert, thanks for the explanation...i still don't understand that if he had this vision all planned out, why he didn't make the films in order.

i mean, we all KNOW what happens in episode III: anakin turns into darth vader. there is no suspense since it's expected. how it was done, sure that's another matter, but still, it doesn't solve the problem (for me anyway) that there was NO suspense in episodes I-III cause we all know the final outcome.
I suppose you weren't a fan of Apollo 13 then. I mean, we all knew the outcome of that film as well, did we not? How about any real life story?
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It's a very common technique to sketch out backstories when writing. You write a story, and it can be helpful to have a rough sketch of how things got to be the way they are when your story starts.

Even beyond writing, it's a common acting technique to write out a fairly detailed backstory for one's character in order to inform the acting choices and allow the actor to bring more reality to the character. I know actors who write over 100 pages of backstory for their characters. It makes sense that the writer would do the same thing even while having no intention of actually filming that backstory.

At the time he wrote Star Wars, I seriously doubt he had any intention of ever going back and making movies out of that backstory.
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Lucas did have ep 7-9 in mind, but he denies it now

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