Movie Talk A Discussion area for everything movie related including films In The Theaters

Jar Jar

Old 05-21-05, 12:10 PM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 125
Jar Jar

I was disappointed that Jar Jar didn't have any lines in this episode.
I think I only saw him on screen twice.
Spoiler:
When Padme died & Jar Jar made an appearance but didn't say anything... I did my best Jar Jar impersonation, "Meesa sad".
dvd_talker is offline  
Old 05-21-05, 12:18 PM
  #2  
Retired
 
Join Date: May 1999
Posts: 27,449
That was one of the best things about the movie IMO.
Josh H is offline  
Old 05-21-05, 12:21 PM
  #3  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 9,975
He did, but it seemed like a line dubbed in from TPM. It was just one.

Really, there was no place for him. I don't mind the character, but I didn't see a place for him. Maybe there could have been if the first half of the film was tightened up.
BizRodian is offline  
Old 05-21-05, 01:00 PM
  #4  
DVD Talk Legend
 
calhoun07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 14,402
They still gave Ahmed Best a credit, though I don't recall Jar Jar contributing anything to Episode 3. Curious thing, though, that even though Jar Jar's screen time in Episode 3 is dramatically cut short from what we saw in Episode 1, his contribution to the moving of the storyline and plots of both movies are exactly the same.
calhoun07 is offline  
Old 05-21-05, 01:11 PM
  #5  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Texas! Damn right.
Posts: 11,089
Originally Posted by calhoun07
Curious thing, though, that even though Jar Jar's screen time in Episode 3 is dramatically cut short from what we saw in Episode 1, his contribution to the moving of the storyline and plots of both movies are exactly the same.


I think this thread, like Jar Jar, needs to die a quick death.
Mutley Hyde is offline  
Old 05-21-05, 03:16 PM
  #6  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 125
Jar Jar should crossover to rap music and do a collaboration with the 2 Live Crew on a remake of "Me So Horny" - "Meesa Horny". LOL.
dvd_talker is offline  
Old 05-21-05, 03:27 PM
  #7  
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: City of the lakers.. riots.. and drug dealing cops.. los(t) Angel(e)s. ca.
Posts: 54,199
I was glad he didn't have anything to do with it. Though they should have added some closure to some degree.
Jackskeleton is offline  
Old 05-21-05, 03:43 PM
  #8  
Suspended pending providing a working email address
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 461
I woudln't have minded Bail Organa saying "hey Jar Jar lets see what's goin on at the Jedi temple" and when they get there, oops a stray blaster shot hits Jar Jar right in the head.
Jadow is offline  
Old 05-21-05, 04:47 PM
  #9  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Docking Bay 94
Posts: 14,259
I think it's pretty safe to assume that Lucas had grander plans for the character, but backed off after audience reaction from Episode I. His role is very, very small in Episode II (they even briefly flirted with the idea of making his speech more 'normal' in that film, but decided against it). In Episode III, he's on screen for all of about 10 seconds.

After Episode I, I figured we'd see Anakin have a growing friendship with the guy and then kill him in Episode III after turning to the Dark Side. But, that definitely wouldn't work now -- Lucas would want people to be 'shocked' by this, but you know that the theater would errupt in applause.
bboisvert is offline  
Old 05-22-05, 05:55 PM
  #10  
DVD Talk Legend
 
calhoun07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 14,402
Originally Posted by bboisvert
I think it's pretty safe to assume that Lucas had grander plans for the character, but backed off after audience reaction from Episode I. His role is very, very small in Episode II (they even briefly flirted with the idea of making his speech more 'normal' in that film, but decided against it). In Episode III, he's on screen for all of about 10 seconds.

After Episode I, I figured we'd see Anakin have a growing friendship with the guy and then kill him in Episode III after turning to the Dark Side. But, that definitely wouldn't work now -- Lucas would want people to be 'shocked' by this, but you know that the theater would errupt in applause.
Actually, I think Lucas doesn't give a crap what the fans think, for the most part, and would have done damn well what he wanted to with Jar Jar had Ahmed Best not been hit by that car.

Of course, I think it was a disgruntled fan who hit Best.
calhoun07 is offline  
Old 05-22-05, 06:55 PM
  #11  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 2,361
Originally Posted by calhoun07
Actually, I think Lucas doesn't give a crap what the fans think, for the most part, and would have done damn well what he wanted to with Jar Jar had Ahmed Best not been hit by that car.
I'm not so sure about that. I believe Lucas likes the fans to believe that he is his own man but he listens. Look at how he changed some of the most unpopular SE modifications back to the original (or closer anyway) for the latest DVDs. He also re-did the CGI on Jaba. I'd be willing to bet he did those things primarily due to fan reaction.

It doesn't make sense that he would make JarJar such a major character in Menace and then reduce him to almost nothing in the next two. If that was intended from the beginning then he didn't have things thought through very well which I doubt.
moocher is offline  
Old 05-22-05, 07:07 PM
  #12  
DVD Talk Legend
 
calhoun07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 14,402
Originally Posted by moocher
I'm not so sure about that. I believe Lucas likes the fans to believe that he is his own man but he listens. Look at how he changed some of the most unpopular SE modifications back to the original (or closer anyway) for the latest DVDs. He also re-did the CGI on Jaba. I'd be willing to bet he did those things primarily due to fan reaction.

It doesn't make sense that he would make JarJar such a major character in Menace and then reduce him to almost nothing in the next two. If that was intended from the beginning then he didn't have things thought through very well which I doubt.
I think he is influenced somewhat by fan reaction, yes, like when he took N Synch or the Backstreet Boys or whoever the hell they were out of Episode 2, but Jar Jar was intended to be more of a main player, like you pointed out. I suspect it has less to do with fan reaction and more to the fact that Ahmed Best couldn't play the character nearly as much after his accident.
calhoun07 is offline  
Old 05-22-05, 07:59 PM
  #13  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Bartertown due to it having a better economy than where I really live, Buffalo NY
Posts: 29,694
Originally Posted by calhoun07
I think he is influenced somewhat by fan reaction, yes, like when he took N Synch or the Backstreet Boys or whoever the hell they were out of Episode 2, but Jar Jar was intended to be more of a main player, like you pointed out. I suspect it has less to do with fan reaction and more to the fact that Ahmed Best couldn't play the character nearly as much after his accident.
all Best really needed to do was the voice. CG would take care of the rest
mikehunt is offline  
Old 05-22-05, 08:17 PM
  #14  
Moderator
 
Groucho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 70,524
Glad I'm not the only one who did the "Meesa sad!" thing.

Accident? What happened to Ahmed Best? Only thing Google reveals is an internet april fools joke.

Last edited by Groucho; 05-22-05 at 08:19 PM.
Groucho is offline  
Old 05-22-05, 08:32 PM
  #15  
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Carrollton, Ga
Posts: 4,809
like when he took N Synch or the Backstreet Boys or whoever the hell they were out of Episode 2
They were never in it to begin with, and Lucas laughed at the notion during a post-AOTC interview. That rumor got started becayse N'Sync was working on a video at ILM and they had already been on record as saying they were huge Star Wars fans. But they were never in Episode II.
Terrell is offline  
Old 05-22-05, 09:26 PM
  #16  
DVD Talk Legend
 
calhoun07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 14,402
Originally Posted by Groucho
Glad I'm not the only one who did the "Meesa sad!" thing.

Accident? What happened to Ahmed Best? Only thing Google reveals is an internet april fools joke.
Maybe it was just a joke then. Was it the accident involving a car that you read about? I just heard about it word of mouth.
calhoun07 is offline  
Old 05-23-05, 12:27 AM
  #17  
Fok
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Fok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Canada, BC
Posts: 6,689
Regardless of why Jar Jar wasn't involved in the the later movies makes me happy, what was Lucas thinking when he created him?
Fok is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.