I think that's exactly the case. Owen raised Luke basically from birth for the past 18 years. He's trying to postpone his 'destiny'... keep him on the farm away from Biggs, Obi-Wan, and others that will take him away.

interesting...makes sense, makes me wish that scene was longer so we know the story that Beru and Lars got from Obi-Wan

I think most of the questions have been addressed well enough, but I would like to add that I think R2's excited rocking back and forth when he first sees Obi Wan in episode 4 could suggest, in hindsight at least, a familiarity the droid had with him. Obi Wan would obviously have to down play his knowlege of the droids.

I agree with this. I mean come on, he also says Vader killed Luke's father. It's true from a certain perspective, yes, but it's not the most upfront comment. I can just imagine an honest Obi-Wan...

"Why, it's R2-D2! I recognize this droid! He used to belong to your father, Anakin. That is, before he was seduced by the Dark Side and became the evil Darth Vader. And look, R2's got a hologram of your sister!"

Hmm, when I was three and watched Star Wars I knew that Obi-Wan obviously recognized the droids and was playing coy so I guess I'm the smartest person ever. But seriously, folks, how can anyone think anything differently than Obi-Wan pretending not to know them? Don't be silly.

I think the perception that Anakin turned dark too fast in the prequels is mirrored by Vader turning good too fast in Eps IV -VI. He's pretty evil for the first 2 and ROTJ is comparably a rushjob to make him sympathetic

I guess I could accept that Obi-Wan was playing coy and only pretending to not recognize R2 in episode IV. (Assuming Lucas really did have outlines for prequels in his head featuring Obi-Wan and the droids, wouldn't that have to be the case? However, I'm skeptical he ever had an idea for six episodes before the first one was released in 1977.)

But the one thing Obi-Wan forgets that really bothers me is that Luke has a sister. He was present at the birth. And there is absolutely no way you can say he was playing coy with Yoda when he said, "That boy is our last hope." Yoda's response should NOT have been, "No - there is another."

And speaking of Leia's birth, I guess there's a deleted scene coming on the DVD that shows her bonding with her mother since she remembers images of Padme so well in Return of the Jedi?

maybe obi wan has no faith in leia because she is a woman or he thinks the force is only strong in male skywalkers? Or for some other reason? Luke was always looking to make a name for himself where Leia was a diplomat.

My questions:

7. How could Leia announce in Episode 4 that she remembered her real mother as being very sad? (That's a pretty minor question - my much bigger question/complaint is the following.)

8. Why did Kenobi vanish when killed by Darth Vader in Episode 4? I had always chalked this up to the mysterious nature of the Force, in parallel with seeing ghosts. A half-hearted attempt was made to explain the latter, which... raises the obvious problem... of explaining the former.

- David Stein

The Skywalker name is the one thing that bugs me about Vader and Luke. I understand Vader, and the entire Empire, searching for the guy that dstroyed the supreme weapon that took 20 years and untold money to construct, regardless of his last name. Maybe Palpatine had Vader in a haze, explains Vader's lapdog appearance in ANH, and as the trilogy moved along he got his head cleared and his memory back, along with his cojonies.

7. How could Leia announce in Episode 4 that she remembered her real mother as being very sad? (That's a pretty minor question - my much bigger question/complaint is the following.)

I thought of this one too when the film showed that Padme died at childbirth. The answer that I came up with is that Leia was responding to Luke's question and at the time, she did not know what he meant so she told him about her adopted mother? They never show her adopted mother in the orginal trilogy so maybe she died when Leia was young.

8. Why did Kenobi vanish when killed by Darth Vader in Episode 4? I had always chalked this up to the mysterious nature of the Force, in parallel with seeing ghosts. A half-hearted attempt was made to explain the latter, which... raises the obvious problem... of explaining the former.

Here is where I think that Lucas did something right. At the end of Sith, Yoda tells Obi-Wan that he needs to train himself over the next few years and tells him how to talk with his old master. I think that it is implied that Obi-Wan spends his time on Tatooine learning how to overcome death. I think he also has seen into the future and knows what will happen with Luke. This explains why he tells Vader that "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerfull than you can imagine." It also explains why he let Vader "kill" him. He knew where he would be going and realized that his death was needed in the overall scheme of things. Now, when Vader steps on the empty cloak, it has more meaning because it now looks like even Vader did not understand why Obi-Wan disappeared. I think he disappeared because he had trained himself to become immortal and to become one with the force.

This also explains why Yoda disappears. He has trained himself too to become one with the force when he dies.

1. One of the more popular questions or statements about the film was that Anakin went to the dark side to quickly.

This is an opinion. An opinion I do not concur with. Sith could have been a 3+ hour movie like LOTR, but I'm glad it's not.

2. Why is Vader looking for Skywalker in Empire?

I surmise that Luke Skywalker's name gets spread throughout the galaxy as the person who blew up the Death Star. Vader could feel the Force within him during the Battle of Yavin. Vader put 2+2 together and figured that Padme's child survived (but, of course, he didn't know there were twins).

3. So 3PO has his memory erased but R2 does not. "Erase the Protocal Droids memory" says Bail Organa. However he makes no mention of R2. So that means R2 goes around in the prequels with a whole lot of Knowledge in his head. Does this make sense??

Actually, what EXACTLY does R2 know? Does R2 know Anakin becomes Vader? Does R2 know that Luke and Leia are children of Darth Vader? Judging by Episode III, I'm not too sure. So, although R2 does have knowledge of some things, I'm not sure it matters all that much in the OT.

4. Why doesnt Obi won rememder R2.

Well, R2 mostly hung out with Anakin. Not so much with Kenobi. And he never owned R2 either. So, either Obi-Wan is telling it from his "point of view" when he doesn't recognize R2. Or maybe he simply doesn't remember R2.

"certain point of view" is a big thing with Ben and he did lie to Luke alot at first...

Come on - At the end of ROTS Vader is Palpatine's Bitch!! He could never ever, ever take on the Palpatine and become the emperor. One shot from the Palp's lightning bolt and he is toast! He's a shell of a man at the end of ROTS. He lost his mobility, can not breath, or move around without his suit. Therefore he is destined to grovel before Palp until someone else comes along to take his place.... or ............ he finds another Jedi that he can train or turn to help him kill Palpitine (something that he is no longer able to do)

This explains why it is a "race" to find Skywalker in ESB and ROTJ - Who ever gets to him first and turns him will gain or keep power.

I was one who had the complaint that Anakin turned too quickly. However, I believe most people who express this criticism are not referring to the overall internal struggle of Anakin. Of course it has been a gradual building up of doubt and temptation thanks to the inticement and lies of Palp/Sidious and the trauma of his mother's death. When I and others say it was too quick we are referring to the actual scene/dialogue after Windu is killed. It just felt rushed. There should have been more resistance. Anakin should have fought a little harder to stay good in that moment. Like I said in the review thread, it would have been nice to see Anakin try to strike down Sidious (ala Luke in RotJ) only to have Sidious repel the attack followed by, "Yes. Excellent. I can feel your anger. Your rage will make you more powerful than you can imagine."

I don't understand the dialogue change in ESB. Seems unneccesary and causes confusion.

The only rational explanation is that Vader was playing dumb to the Emperor, but I don't really think it makes it clear enough in ESB. Of course, as it was written and originally shown, it wasn't meant to be that way at all.

In the original version, there is a real question on whether Vader was lying to Luke in ESB about wanting to topple the Emperor. It seemed like a nice way for Luke to surrender.

Not anymore..

I was having a good discussion with someone at the office today regarding the "quick turn of Anakin".

My thoughts are that his turn to the light side in the OT is just as quick as it seems in the PT. Think about it. At the beginning of ROTJ he's a bad ass, then Luke talks to him for five minutes and all of a sudden he cares when Luke is getting his ass kicked.

At least in the PT we have many scenes across all three movies where Anakin gets shafted by the Jedi Council, so when Palpy starts in on him with the deception stuff it seems like Anakin has some conflict.

One question I have is why is Luke's lightsaber a different color? It's green in ANH. Isn't it suppose to be blue since it's the one Obi-Wan took away from Anakin after their battle?

I think they had some color problems when they remastered ANH and it turned out a bit greenish... hopefully that will get fixed in the next box set release. Its supposed to be blue.

8. Why did Kenobi vanish when killed by Darth Vader in Episode 4? I had always chalked this up to the mysterious nature of the Force, in parallel with seeing ghosts. A half-hearted attempt was made to explain the latter, which... raises the obvious problem... of explaining the former

If yoda learned this power and has been talking with Qui-Gon(who you could assume has learned this power(to talk to others via the force)), why didn't Qui-Gon disappear???

maybe some on can remind me from the OT, how does Vader know Leia is Lukes sister?

I'm trying to remember cause in ROTS Anakin thought only 1 kid was going to pop out, the fact that there were twins didn't pop up until the birth. Then if the theory that Vader was looking for his son between ANH and ESB, how did he find out about Leia to tell Luke?

Obi Wan 'tells' Luke about it on Degobah after Yoda dies (who brought the subject up) in RotJ... so Luke knows. When he gets stressed fighting Vader, he thinks about her.. and Vader senses his thoughts and therefore knows himself.

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4. Why doesnt Obi -Wan remember R2.

I think he does. Don't forget this line.

BEN: Hello there! Come here my little friend. Don't be afraid.

Now ole Ben could just be a fan of astrodroids in general, but I think it is obvious he recognizes the droid.

Now as to how quickly Anakin turned, lets consider the facts. He saved his master 9 times, and was obviously one of the most, if not the most GIFTED Jedi of the order, having saved the day on several occasions during the Clone Wars.

exerpt from the wikipedia article on Count Dooku

In the video game The Clone Wars, Count Dooku led the army of the Confederacy of Independent Systems, or the Separatist Army, as in the films. He found the Force Harvester, an ancient Sith artifact, on Raxus Prime. He later found the pieces scattered by the ancient Sith and revived an antique Sith weapon known as the Dark Reaper. The Dark Reaper was first defeated by a Jedi Knight named Ulic Qel Droma 4,000 years before The Phantom Menace during the Great Sith War. At the Sith Temple on Thule, it was re-defeated by Anakin Skywalker at the final confrontation of the video game

By all standards he had more than proved himself in skills to be one of the great Jedi Masters, but in temperment he was lacking and this the Jedi COuncil knew all too well. It was a measure of success that he was able to join the Jedi Council without being a Jedi Master, but from Anakin's glass half full perspective, he saw it as an insult.

And lets not forget that his first major dark side shift occured when he killed a disarmed and helpless opponent when he killed Count Dooku at Palpatine's urging. By the time we get to the confrontation with Mace Windu, it is obvious that Anakin does not trust Mace as much as his adopted home planet's ex-senator and Old friend Palpatine/Sidious, a theme set up earlier when Mace had to tell him to take his seat at the Jedi Council. Anakin knew full well that the punishment for killing another Jedi was banishment from the order and combined with his over whelming fear of Padme's death it did not take that much for him to take Sidious's dark compact as ruling the galaxy, saving his wife and child, beat becoming a dishonoured exile, who probably not see Padme any more after everything was said and done.

My question, not answered anywhere, does anyone think that Palpatine or Dooku may have been Anakin's Father/Creator? Seeing how far seeing Darth Sidious was it would not be out of place for him to do a little genetic engineering to get the Apprentice he wanted. Perhaps this power over life he claimed to have went as far as being able to creat an embryo out of the power of the Force. It seemed Palpatine knew very early on the Anakin would become the One.

As to Darth Vader's seemingly quick flip to good, he was more than familiar with Sidious's policy on upgrading his apprentices periodically and seeing his son consumed by the Dark Lightning could have been enough to stir old memories of the duplicity of Sidious and how it made him end up in the suit in the first place.

Maybe Yoda was basically echoing Padme's "there's good in him", referring to Anakin.

Anakin was the old hope. Luke was the "new hope." Obi-wan apparently gave up on Anakin once he became Vader, but maybe Yoda realized there was still some good in him. He did end up saving the day, after all.

Leia didn't really display any force powers at all during the movies, so maybe it's fair to believe she's the the "another." (I know she displayed powers during some of the books, but those aren't gospel).