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Old 05-19-05, 02:26 PM
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Why call Obi-Won Ben?

He made it up when we went into hiding?

Is that correct?
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Old 05-19-05, 02:27 PM
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Cause Ewan Kenobi doesnt sound as good?
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Old 05-19-05, 02:31 PM
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Damn, the movie just came out.. we can't be running out of steam like this already.
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Old 05-19-05, 02:34 PM
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The stupid thing is if he changed it to Ben Kenobi to go into hiding... how many other Kenobi's are there in teh galaxy? Real original thinking on the part of a jedi.
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Old 05-19-05, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rammsteinfan
The stupid thing is if he changed it to Ben Kenobi to go into hiding... how many other Kenobi's are there in teh galaxy? Real original thinking on the part of a jedi.
I'm sure it's as common as Smith, Nguyen, and Krscyyck
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Ummm... yeah.
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Why are people assuming he was using his LAST name while in hiding?
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Originally Posted by AeroStone
Why are people assuming he was using his LAST name while in hiding?
Um, because he was?
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Old 05-19-05, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AeroStone
Why are people assuming he was using his LAST name while in hiding?
It's pretty easy to make that assumption when Luke mentions that his last name is Kenobi in Episode IV.
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Originally Posted by Rammsteinfan
The stupid thing is if he changed it to Ben Kenobi to go into hiding... how many other Kenobi's are there in teh galaxy? Real original thinking on the part of a jedi.
or not changing luke's last name
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or not changing luke's last name
Or taking Luke to the planet where Vader was born and raised!

Speaking of which, in Ep 4, wouldn't you think Vader would have been interested in seeing the old stomping grounds? Maybe he could have taken a detachment down and wiped out a Tusken Raider village or two - for old times sake.
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Old 05-19-05, 03:58 PM
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Or taking Luke to the planet where Vader was born and raised!

Speaking of which, in Ep 4, wouldn't you think Vader would have been interested in seeing the old stomping grounds?
I can't rationalize leaving the last name the same (taking the name "Lars" would have made more sense). But I can definitely see the logic in going to Tatooine and hiding out.

1. It's not part of the Republic and is far away from everything.
2. There's no possible reason for Vader to ever go there -- it's got nothing but painful memories for him.
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Old 05-19-05, 04:04 PM
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But then again in Epi IV, he didnt know Luke was alive. He thought Padme died while still preggers since that is how he saw her before he was changed on Mustafar and was told shortly after that she died. She also still appeared pregnant while being buried to hide the truth.
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Originally Posted by Kube
Why call Obi-Won Ben?
They don't.





They call Obi-Wan "Ben".
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Old 05-19-05, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rammsteinfan
But then again in Epi IV, he didnt know Luke was alive. He thought Padme died while still preggers since that is how he saw her before he was changed on Mustafar and was told shortly after that she died. She also still appeared pregnant while being buried to hide the truth.
Yes, but leaving the name causes problems later, no?

Because he's Luke SKYWALKER -- Vader figures out that he's his son, captures his friends, uses them as bait, and interrupts Luke's training on Dagobah.

If he were Luke LARS or Luke SMITH, I'm not convinced it would have happened.
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Wasnt that AFTER the emperor told Vader about his son being alive when he captured his friends?
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Old 05-19-05, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rammsteinfan
Wasnt that AFTER the emperor told Vader about his son being alive when he captured his friends?
ESB opens with Vader "obsessed" with finding young Skywalker. It says so right in the opening crawl.

"That's the system. The Rebels are there. And I'm sure Skywalker is with them."

Again, if the guy who blew up the Death Star had been named Lars or something, I think it might have helped.
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Doh thats rights. Damn all these silly issues.
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Old 05-19-05, 04:34 PM
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A simple name change that all it was.
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Obi-Wan Cannoli would have also been an acceptable change.
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Or Obi-Wan Goldstein.
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Old 05-19-05, 05:07 PM
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Vader doesn't know Luke's first name. He wasn't there for the birth. Now the last name is a different story. Owen and Beru don't even pretend he is their son.
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Vader had no reason to look for his kid(s). He thought they died with Padme. The emperor just told him he killed her in his anger, so he would have assumed she died then and there.

Hearing that Luke Skywalker blew up the death star was the first he likely thought about it after that.
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Old 05-19-05, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Vader had no reason to look for his kid(s). He thought they died with Padme. The emperor just told him he killed her in his anger, so he would have assumed she died then and there.

Hearing that Luke Skywalker blew up the death star was the first he likely thought about it after that.
Actually, chasing him in space was probably his first inkling, when Vader says "The Force is strong in this one"

Then he starts putting it together...Obi-Wan returns, he feels someone else that is strong in the Force, it must be someone Obi-Wan is training. Maybe he doesn't think it's his son at first, but he definately sees him as a possible Jedi, or Sith with proper training.
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Old 05-19-05, 06:42 PM
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Obi Wan to Ben is like Superman putting on glasses, in the Star Wars Universe.

"Whoa..where'd he go.. Clark, ya seen that super-guy?!?!"

I think it's funny they call Old Ben Kenobi a crazy wizard. Like the commoners caught him using the force and explained it away as "wizard powers."
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