Kube

He made it up when we went into hiding?

Is that correct?

Rammsteinfan

Cause Ewan Kenobi doesnt sound as good?

PixyJunket

Damn, the movie just came out.. we can't be running out of steam like this already.

Rammsteinfan

The stupid thing is if he changed it to Ben Kenobi to go into hiding... how many other Kenobi's are there in teh galaxy? Real original thinking on the part of a jedi.

HN

I'm sure it's as common as Smith, Nguyen, and Krscyyck

bboisvert

Ummm... yeah.

AeroStone

Why are people assuming he was using his LAST name while in hiding?

uberjoe

Um, because he was?

bboisvert

It's pretty easy to make that assumption when Luke mentions that his last name is Kenobi in Episode IV.

mikehunt

or not changing luke's last name

masetodd

Or taking Luke to the planet where Vader was born and raised!

Speaking of which, in Ep 4, wouldn't you think Vader would have been interested in seeing the old stomping grounds? Maybe he could have taken a detachment down and wiped out a Tusken Raider village or two - for old times sake.

bboisvert

I can't rationalize leaving the last name the same (taking the name "Lars" would have made more sense). But I can definitely see the logic in going to Tatooine and hiding out.

1. It's not part of the Republic and is far away from everything.
2. There's no possible reason for Vader to ever go there -- it's got nothing but painful memories for him.

Rammsteinfan

But then again in Epi IV, he didnt know Luke was alive. He thought Padme died while still preggers since that is how he saw her before he was changed on Mustafar and was told shortly after that she died. She also still appeared pregnant while being buried to hide the truth.

Morf

They don't.





They call Obi-Wan "Ben".

bboisvert

Yes, but leaving the name causes problems later, no?

Because he's Luke SKYWALKER -- Vader figures out that he's his son, captures his friends, uses them as bait, and interrupts Luke's training on Dagobah.

If he were Luke LARS or Luke SMITH, I'm not convinced it would have happened.

Rammsteinfan

Wasnt that AFTER the emperor told Vader about his son being alive when he captured his friends?

bboisvert

ESB opens with Vader "obsessed" with finding young Skywalker. It says so right in the opening crawl.

"That's the system. The Rebels are there. And I'm sure Skywalker is with them."

Again, if the guy who blew up the Death Star had been named Lars or something, I think it might have helped.

Rammsteinfan

Doh thats rights. Damn all these silly issues.

Fok

A simple name change that all it was.

Rammsteinfan

Obi-Wan Cannoli would have also been an acceptable change.

cruzness

Or Obi-Wan Goldstein.

towbinaj

Vader doesn't know Luke's first name. He wasn't there for the birth. Now the last name is a different story. Owen and Beru don't even pretend he is their son.

Josh H

Vader had no reason to look for his kid(s). He thought they died with Padme. The emperor just told him he killed her in his anger, so he would have assumed she died then and there.

Hearing that Luke Skywalker blew up the death star was the first he likely thought about it after that.

TheKing

Actually, chasing him in space was probably his first inkling, when Vader says "The Force is strong in this one"

Then he starts putting it together...Obi-Wan returns, he feels someone else that is strong in the Force, it must be someone Obi-Wan is training. Maybe he doesn't think it's his son at first, but he definately sees him as a possible Jedi, or Sith with proper training.

BassDude

Obi Wan to Ben is like Superman putting on glasses, in the Star Wars Universe.

"Whoa..where'd he go.. Clark, ya seen that super-guy?!?!"

I think it's funny they call Old Ben Kenobi a crazy wizard. Like the commoners caught him using the force and explained it away as "wizard powers."