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Old 03-19-05 | 05:54 AM
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Pile of shit. There's my review. I had all the same complaints that people here had and then some...

Worse than Ring 0 Birthday. Worse than Alone in the Dark. Worse than Cursed. Worst film of the year so far. I wish there was a pill I could take to make this film go away... like the Superman 4 pill.
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Old 03-19-05 | 09:21 AM
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Decided to skip it!
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Old 03-19-05 | 11:32 AM
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Hmm... Maybe I misinterpreted the ending then. I thought she was probably back in the real world as well, until the flickering and various effects of the last couple seconds. Also, although I wasn't paying attention to memorize it, I thought whoever the kid was at that point called her mommy, she said something along the lines of "Call me Rachel, for a little while/longer at least." That made me think she knew she was talking to Samara, especially if it was "for a little while at least."
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I took the effects at the end to be like the final, almost subliminal, flash of the "face" at the end of Scream -- sort of a "one more relatively meaningless jump-tweak before we dump you into the credits". And I saw Rachel's request that Aiden call her "Rachel" for a little while longer to mean that she had been being called Mommy by Samara in Aiden's body and needed a while to get over that before being called Mommy by Aiden.

The movie DID seem to emphasize that there was not going to be a sequel. I thought when I heard it that Rachel's "promise" to Aiden that it was over seemed intentionally spoken to the audience. Time (and box office) will tell.

AND, because I missed asking earlier: what the FUCK was with those deer??? Was it some kind of "homage" to The Omen?
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Old 03-19-05 | 11:40 AM
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this thread looks like a CIA document.
I know!! We really should have rules that movie threads are for people that have SEEN the movie and want to discuss it as opposed to the necessary "spoilerizing" to protect those that want to come into a thread to say "Can't wait for this one!" or "This is gonna be crap!".
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Old 03-19-05 | 02:57 PM
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But this is a review thread without the word 'spoilers' in the title... people who haven't seen it can come in here free of worry and see whether people here thought it was good or not without having the plot ruined.

Now... If I decided to discuss the plot of this particular piece of garbage however, I wouldn't use spoiler tags because shit doesn't spoil.
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Old 03-19-05 | 04:11 PM
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Perhaps the reindeer wouldn't have been such a bad idea (though, the fact that they weren't explained nearly at all didn't help) had they not looked so horribly fake.

They looked as bad as the wolves did in The Day After Tomorrow, which I thought were some of the worst effects I'd seen in a long while...
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Old 03-19-05 | 07:44 PM
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I'll have to admit that I provided at least 2 bits of unintentional bits of humor for people sitting around me by falling asleep and I caught myself snoring a little bit before waking up for the rest of the movie (my dream was better than the film at that point, I'm afraid).

This film is about 30 minutes too long given the thin script, and the lack of real creepiness and scares. The ending segment is so predictable and underwhelming, I can only hope that this is the end of the line for "The Ring" franchise. Naomi Watts must be a mouth breather because I think I can count on the fingers of my hand the times I did not see her front teeth exposed, it got distracting after a while.

Even if you go in with low expectations, I would proffer that you'll still come away disappointed and unimpressed.

I give it 1.5 stars, or a grade of D+.
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Old 03-19-05 | 07:57 PM
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I'll have to admit that I provided at least 2 bits of unintentional bits of humor for people sitting around me by falling asleep and I caught myself snoring a little bit before waking up for the rest of the movie (my dream was better than the film at that point, I'm afraid).

This film is about 30 minutes too long given the thin script, and the lack of real creepiness and scares. The ending segment is so predictable and underwhelming, I can only hope that this is the end of the line for "The Ring" franchise. Naomi Watts must be a mouth breather because I think I can count on the fingers of my hand the times I did not see her front teeth exposed, it got distracting after a while.

Even if you go in with low expectations, I would proffer that you'll still come away disappointed and unimpressed.

I give it 1.5 stars, or a grade of D+.
Add another person to the sleeping tally. I dosed off a couple times, something I've only done one other time in the theater (Anger Management). The end was too predictable for my liking also.
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Old 03-19-05 | 08:00 PM
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Old 03-19-05 | 10:55 PM
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Yeah, if those girls sitting near me didn't keep giggling at my snoring, I would have made it through the entire movie without having to consciously enduring its fecalness.
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Old 03-19-05 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by coladar
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Was Samara a hunter that killed a lot of moose? I can't quite picture Samara in camouflage with a rifle, but that's about the only reason all the moose would have a grudge against her.
The fact that you can't tell a moose from a deer is scarier than the whole movie was.

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Old 03-20-05 | 12:42 AM
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So, The Ring is an American version of Ringu, but The Ring 2 has nothing to do with Ringu 2, is that correct?
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Old 03-20-05 | 01:41 AM
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So, The Ring is an American version of Ringu, but The Ring 2 has nothing to do with Ringu 2, is that correct?
Yup - pretty much - although, they did keep one core idea and mutilated it... they also tried to re-create one scene from it and mutilated that as well. Oh - and calling it "Ringu" annoys me... feel free to do so, but I'm just saying...
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Old 03-20-05 | 02:32 AM
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Yeah, if those girls sitting near me didn't keep giggling at my snoring, I would have made it through the entire movie without having to consciously enduring its fecalness.
I'm guessing that you're not fat, but there have been a few times during a weekday daytime that I've gone to a theater and a big fat guy would end up falling asleep and snoring extremely loud. No one else has the balls to wake him up so I walk up to him and tap him on the shoulder. It's always big fat guys too who weigh like 300+ lbs.

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Old 03-20-05 | 02:34 AM
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Dude - once or twice a month I go to the movies and some fat dude falls asleep within earshot of me and snores. Don't fat dudes have homes to go to?
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Didn't care for it. You would have thought we were watching the latest American Pie by the level of laughter when the "animals" came out. That made no sense. The movie as a whole made very little sense and had almost no rules for what Samari could and couldn't do. In the first movie you have the whole seven day thing and that is the only way she can harm you, what happened to that?

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Old 03-20-05 | 08:05 AM
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Well, I don't "way" 300 pounds, but I had no problems staying awake during "The Upside of Anger" on the same afternoon, my falling asleep had more to do with how boring "The Ring Two" was, and not my weight.
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Old 03-20-05 | 08:41 AM
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Dude - once or twice a month I go to the movies and some fat dude falls asleep within earshot of me and snores. Don't fat dudes have homes to go to?
"HEY! I'm not fat, I'm big boned!" (and I don't fall asleep and snore in theaters -- if the movie is THAT bad, I just take my fat ass home!)
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Old 03-20-05 | 11:59 AM
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Well, I don't "way" 300 pounds, but I had no problems staying awake during "The Upside of Anger" on the same afternoon, my falling asleep had more to do with how boring "The Ring Two" was, and not my weight.
my bad, I typed that thing at 3:30 AM so I was half asleep. I changed it to "weigh."
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Old 03-20-05 | 11:53 PM
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Hrm. I feel like I live in some sort of alternate reality. I tried to see this movie on Friday, all showings sold out. Saturday, all showings sold out. Decided to go to the theatre that is too out of the way for anyone to want to go at 11 at night... still sold out.

Finally go tonight, on a Sunday, the large theatre was at 50% capacity. That's a lot for a non-holiday late show.

And you know what? I'm glad it got all these bad reviews. It completely reverse-hyped me. I think the movie wasn't as highly stylized as the last one, and lacked some of the wonder and surprise, but it was a good solid horror movie, considering what American audiences have been seeing lately.

It has plot holes which are large enough to steer a ferry carrying a crazy black horse through, and it has tons of moments where you just want to yell, "No! Do not go into the mysterious basement! Do not leave your child alone!" etc. etc. But it has some genuine scares, just not the cool mood from the last one. It was a bit more like The Grudge, where you were scared but it was irritating -- the scares didn't match up with the story nor were they inventive, but for the most part they worked.

I give it a C+ and I might buy it once it reaches the $9.99 price point. It's not Art, it's not Grand Cinéma, it's a ghost flick. Let's not forget that.
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Old 03-21-05 | 12:57 AM
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This turkey was so bad I felt bad for Hideo Nakata, being forced to direct what basically throws out what he started in the japanese Ring and they reworked for the US version and then being forced to crib his own DArk Water. There are so many things gone wrong in this movie its not even funny and I will avoid DArk Water like the plague.
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Old 03-21-05 | 09:41 AM
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Well, I'll go against the grain here. I thought it was a solid piece of work, not as scary as the first film, but an admirable attempt to take a sequel into unique territory, rather than just repeat the actions of the first film at an amped rate. I was particulary impressed with Hideo Nakata's willingness to subvert his directorial ego and match the look, feel and sound of this film with Gore Verbinski's direction for the first RING, rather than come at it from the approach that "hey, this is my baby--I made this story into a film when American audiences were stuck with nothing but waiting for the next Jason movie, so I'll do it the way I wanna do it!" His camera angle choices never reached that sort of surreal formality often seen in Verbinski's film, but in every other way, this film felt organic to its predecessor while at the same time taking the storyline and characters into completely fresh territory. The "stingers" for the scares weren't delivered with the same pop that the first film had, but that ending with
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Samara contorting herself up the well wall
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closing TV moment
for eliciting the "holy shit!" factor. I'm particularly disgusted with the amount of criticisms being leveled at the film from both viewers and professional critics (such as Roger Ebert) that the screenplay is non-sensical. The story and its various twists and turns make perfect sense, and match the first film's rules fully; it simply requires that the audience pay attention. God forbid. I fear that, if the studio catches wind of these criticisms, they'll have their proof that American audiences prefer their films dumbed down. I desperately hope not because the kind of intelligent, sophisticated and moderated storytelling found in the two RING films is exactly what America needs more of in its popular cinema.
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Old 03-21-05 | 10:25 AM
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Well, I'll go against the grain here. I thought it was a solid piece of work, not as scary as the first film, but an admirable attempt to take a sequel into unique territory, rather than just repeat the actions of the first film at an amped rate. I was particulary impressed with Hideo Nakata's willingness to subvert his directorial ego and match the look, feel and sound of this film with Gore Verbinski's direction for the first RING, rather than come at it from the approach that "hey, this is my baby--I made this story into a film when American audiences were stuck with nothing but waiting for the next Jason movie, so I'll do it the way I wanna do it!" His camera angle choices never reached that sort of surreal formality often seen in Verbinski's film, but in every other way, this film felt organic to its predecessor while at the same time taking the storyline and characters into completely fresh territory. The "stingers" for the scares weren't delivered with the same pop that the first film had, but that ending with
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Samara contorting herself up the well wall
was a laudable match with the first film's
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closing TV moment
for eliciting the "holy shit!" factor. I'm particularly disgusted with the amount of criticisms being leveled at the film from both viewers and professional critics (such as Roger Ebert) that the screenplay is non-sensical. The story and its various twists and turns make perfect sense, and match the first film's rules fully; it simply requires that the audience pay attention. God forbid. I fear that, if the studio catches wind of these criticisms, they'll have their proof that American audiences prefer their films dumbed down. I desperately hope not because the kind of intelligent, sophisticated and moderated storytelling found in the two RING films is exactly what America needs more of in its popular cinema.
I disagree.
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Old 03-21-05 | 10:37 AM
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It's not Art, it's not Grand Cinéma, it's a ghost flick. Let's not forget that.
I think that people who think like you are largely responsible for all the crap being produced and should have their movie-going privileges revoked.
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Old 03-21-05 | 10:42 AM
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God forbid. I fear that, if the studio catches wind of these criticisms, they'll have their proof that American audiences prefer their films dumbed down.
If American audiences didn't prefer their films dumbed down, there would be no need to produce dumbed down remakes of foreign films in the first place.
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