DOOM is doomed!
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From the sounds of it, it looks like Doom is just another one of those video game movies that I feel are borderline and split the audience between those who find it fun and entertaining or just plain dumb. I felt Resident Evil and Mortal Kombat are pretty good examples of that. I'm still planning on watching the movie, as I'm a fan of The Rock and the Doom games, as well as the fact that I enjoy mindless entertainment. However, I am slightly dissapointed that we still haven't gotten the solid video game film that offers a little more.
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Was debating on seeing this or Stay up until a couple days ago, but considering the absolute hatred of Stay from the critics, I went with Doom. For a movie like Doom, I could care less what the critics say. But for Stay... Sounded like a complete disaster.
All in all, it was a great film for what it is. Two problems I had... First,
Second, the whole C24 thing was fine. It might have even worked better than a portal to Hell for movie purposes, if the person had no idea about the video games... But I cannot get past the fact that a Doom movie wimped out and didn't have demons, a few minutes in Hell, etc. It infuriated me when I read about it months ago, and watching it it kept popping up in my mind.
All that said, it still was an excellent movie for what it was. I'm a bit sorry the movie was basically completely taken from Doom 3, but considering the shitty graphics of Doom and Doom 2, I can understand it.
The only thing I didn't get was the Arc.
I think this might be one of the few movies taken from a game that end up being viewed as a relatively good movie. A good portion of the crowd actually applauded at the end of the movie, which was rather shocking. I went to The Fog last week, same time, day and theatre. 90% of the crowd was under 25. I expected Doom would skew roughly the same, but instead it was probably 90% over 30... So considering that, I find the applause to be a good sign for the film.
All in all, it was a great film for what it is. Two problems I had... First,
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All that said, it still was an excellent movie for what it was. I'm a bit sorry the movie was basically completely taken from Doom 3, but considering the shitty graphics of Doom and Doom 2, I can understand it.
The only thing I didn't get was the Arc.
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I think this might be one of the few movies taken from a game that end up being viewed as a relatively good movie. A good portion of the crowd actually applauded at the end of the movie, which was rather shocking. I went to The Fog last week, same time, day and theatre. 90% of the crowd was under 25. I expected Doom would skew roughly the same, but instead it was probably 90% over 30... So considering that, I find the applause to be a good sign for the film.
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Saw it. The FPS mode towards the end was worth the price of admission, just to see something like that on the big screen. The audience I was with really got into that part and applauded at several points. That said, the movie was entertaining, but I would rank it as just being alright.
IMO, if you make a video game based movie, you should find a way to incorporate some of the more memorable bad guys into the story. Resident Evil should have had the Tyrant, Tomb Raider should have had a better creature than the statue, and this movie should have at least had a CyberDemon or some of the horned/hoofed demons. I have played Doom II, and a bit of Doom III, and it seems like they decided to pretty much just adapt the third game in the series. While I admire them for making it a hard R and not taking the CGI monster route (which it looks like Slither will be doing, sadly), I didn't like the ending fight that much. I like The Rock, but
That said, I am glad that the performances were not abysmal and that Rock and Karl Urban both turned in decent ones. At least they made the characters interesting. I think this is a movie I will have to re-watch on DVD knowing what it is and what is/isn't in it to fully appreciate it. For now, I give it ** 1/2/****.
IMO, if you make a video game based movie, you should find a way to incorporate some of the more memorable bad guys into the story. Resident Evil should have had the Tyrant, Tomb Raider should have had a better creature than the statue, and this movie should have at least had a CyberDemon or some of the horned/hoofed demons. I have played Doom II, and a bit of Doom III, and it seems like they decided to pretty much just adapt the third game in the series. While I admire them for making it a hard R and not taking the CGI monster route (which it looks like Slither will be doing, sadly), I didn't like the ending fight that much. I like The Rock, but
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That said, I am glad that the performances were not abysmal and that Rock and Karl Urban both turned in decent ones. At least they made the characters interesting. I think this is a movie I will have to re-watch on DVD knowing what it is and what is/isn't in it to fully appreciate it. For now, I give it ** 1/2/****.
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Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
uhhh.. dude. I don't think anyone is going into it thinking it's great cinema. They are going for a cheap popcorn flick where shit blows up. How about you stop being so critical of things and just enjoy them for what they are? some people like it. You clearly don't. Then again, I don't remember anything lately you actually enjoyed that wasn't a serious piece or something to really think about. It's a fuck'm popcorn flick and should be taken as just exactly that.
I’m not sure why “shit blows up” should get a free pass simply because it’s mindless. I know you subscribe to this thought process, but I don’t share it.
Dumb can be great, and dumb can be bad. I found DOOM to be “big dumb” is a very bad way. If you liked it, great. Post about its merits. But trying to steamroll over a number of my posts continuously bellyaching that I don’t like junk seems hostile at this point.
Besides, the IMO in my original post means IN MY OPINION. If you really don’t care for anything I say, I suggest the ignore option, or apply to become a moderator.
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Originally Posted by scott shelton
I’m not sure why “shit blows up” should get a free pass simply because it’s mindless. I know you subscribe to this thought process, but I don’t share it.
Uh..dude, I have read enough of his posts to know that he doesn't. He merely looks at movies more from the business perspective than you do, and even then he has an eye for what is good "shit blows up" and what is "big and dumb." In this case I would more or less agree with him. Wasn't perfect, but I wasn't looking for heavy stuff when I went into the movie. What's worst are movies that think they're being heavy cerebreal stuff and are really just dumb, which seems to be the case with Stay.
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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
Uh..dude, I have read enough of his posts to know that he doesn't. He merely looks at movies more from the business perspective than you do, and even then he has an eye for what is good "shit blows up" and what is "big and dumb."
But hey, I'm glad you get something out of DOOM that I couldn't.
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Like it or not, Doom is on track to maybe make close to $20 million this weekend.
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Besides, the IMO in my original post means IN MY OPINION. If you really don’t care for anything I say, I suggest the ignore option, or apply to become a moderator.
Yes, it is your own opinion, but I find fault with it and I will point it out. Here I'm pointing out that the standards you hold in a film towards this specific film shouldn't be the same that you hold for better scripted, better filmed and fleshed out story filled films. DOOM doesn't advertise what it isn't. It lays it pretty out on the table.
Then again, using that backwords logic, I could have very well said, if you weren't into that sort of thing, you should have placed doom on your ignore list or applied to be a movie director.
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Doom is teh suck.
Okay, it wasn't horrible, but it was horribly uninspired. Just think Aliens without ANY of the character development or cool dialogue or cool action scenes. The only midly interesting event was already spoiled above, apparently by The Rock himself. This movie was loud and without substance. I don't mind popcorn fare (Mortal Kombat, The Mummy Returns, Speed), but this movie was completely by the numbers and barely breathed enough to insert any amount of plot or character development into the story. It literally was like watching a videogame. Which is fine if you're playing a game, but it doesn't quite work for a movie.
Okay, it wasn't horrible, but it was horribly uninspired. Just think Aliens without ANY of the character development or cool dialogue or cool action scenes. The only midly interesting event was already spoiled above, apparently by The Rock himself. This movie was loud and without substance. I don't mind popcorn fare (Mortal Kombat, The Mummy Returns, Speed), but this movie was completely by the numbers and barely breathed enough to insert any amount of plot or character development into the story. It literally was like watching a videogame. Which is fine if you're playing a game, but it doesn't quite work for a movie.
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Saw it tonight. I went in with low expectations, only hoping for some fun monster-on-human killing, and vice-versa...I gotta say, I was somewhat dissapointed. Don't get me wrong, I didn't hate it. But quite a bit of the movie just seemed sloppily written/acted/etc...
It's funny, if they don't have any character development, people will come to message boards and say "They could have developed the characters some!"...but with this movie, I actually got a bit restless waiting for the action to begin. At one point I just thought "Enough with the talking! Please start killing people, preferably the horribly annoying guy, who
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The FPS sequence was very cool and well done, I enjoyed this bit the most out of anything in the movie. I thought that some parts were filmed in too much darkness. When the monsters were attacking, I couldn't understand what was going on. I assumed it was something violent, but I couldn't really see it.
And as far as the violence, it really wasn't as violent as I was expecting. I've seen far more violent things in theaters in recent months.
This stuff might sound like I didn't enjoy the movie, but that's not the case. Like I said, I enjoyed it, it just wasn't as much fun as I was hoping for.
It's funny, if they don't have any character development, people will come to message boards and say "They could have developed the characters some!"...but with this movie, I actually got a bit restless waiting for the action to begin. At one point I just thought "Enough with the talking! Please start killing people, preferably the horribly annoying guy, who
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The FPS sequence was very cool and well done, I enjoyed this bit the most out of anything in the movie. I thought that some parts were filmed in too much darkness. When the monsters were attacking, I couldn't understand what was going on. I assumed it was something violent, but I couldn't really see it.
And as far as the violence, it really wasn't as violent as I was expecting. I've seen far more violent things in theaters in recent months.
This stuff might sound like I didn't enjoy the movie, but that's not the case. Like I said, I enjoyed it, it just wasn't as much fun as I was hoping for.
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Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
I love this bizzaro world train of thinking. So you have the right to respond to my opinion, yet I don't have a right to respond to your opinion or offer my own opinion of my own based on your opinion?
Yes, it is your own opinion, but I find fault with it and I will point it out. Here I'm pointing out that the standards you hold in a film towards this specific film shouldn't be the same that you hold for better scripted, better filmed and fleshed out story filled films. DOOM doesn't advertise what it isn't. It lays it pretty out on the table.
Yes, it is your own opinion, but I find fault with it and I will point it out. Here I'm pointing out that the standards you hold in a film towards this specific film shouldn't be the same that you hold for better scripted, better filmed and fleshed out story filled films. DOOM doesn't advertise what it isn't. It lays it pretty out on the table.
No bizzaro thinking scheme here. You responded to my opinions not with thorough criticisms or objections, but went after me personally, actually telling me what I can or cannot post. See the difference? That's the rub here.
I held DOOM to no standard. Like any film, I wanted it to work, and for me it didn't. So I posted here, like anybody else. Show me my posts where I was hoping it would be bad. Looks bad in one thing, but I wasn't wishing ill against it.
I have no template of thought for every film. That would be nonsense. Again, please prove me wrong.
Then again, using that backwords logic, I could have very well said, if you weren't into that sort of thing, you should have placed doom on your ignore list or applied to be a movie director.
So where are your thoughts on the film, since mine do not meet your standards?
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Originally Posted by Patman
The only 2 good things about this movie were possessed by Rosamund Pike, I'm afraid.
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Originally Posted by Seantn
I thought that some parts were filmed in too much darkness. When the monsters were attacking, I couldn't understand what was going on. I assumed it was something violent, but I couldn't really see it.
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Loved the FPS scene and the BFG... overall, an OK piece of action fluff. Worth the matinee I saw it on...but I also was pissed at The Rock for his Daily Show spoiler the night before...I'm sure a Universal suit was furious....
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Loved the FPS scene and the BFG... overall, an OK piece of action fluff. Worth the matinee I saw it on...but I also was pissed at The Rock for his Daily Show spoiler the night before...I'm sure a Universal suit was furious....
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I saw this this weekend. Wasnt great, wasnt bad. the FPS scenes are awsome. Good popcorn flick, so I liked it. Was pleased with the amount of blood in it. Wanted to see more demons though, but itwas a good 2.5Stars in my book..
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With the amount of movies that try to rip-off Aliens, you think one would come close.
I like the Rock and Andrej Bartowiak has made some movies that I've enjoyed, but this one was pretty much a snoozer. It wasn't bad....just not interesting. At one point I wished it was an FPS, so that I could start shooting the guns so something would be happening.
I like the Rock and Andrej Bartowiak has made some movies that I've enjoyed, but this one was pretty much a snoozer. It wasn't bad....just not interesting. At one point I wished it was an FPS, so that I could start shooting the guns so something would be happening.
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oh you guys have lost it! THIS WAS AWFUL! One, no, maybe half a step up from a Uwe Boll movie. Hands down the worst film I've seen this year, probably in many years. There was not one good thing about it. Even the nostolgia factor was incredibly low. OOO a chainsaw out of nowhere. OOO lets introduce the BFG and waste it. I like the Rock but he was ridiciulous as Sarge. Oh how I hated this piece of shit. Seriously, Doom 3 on a good computer with a nice graphics card and surround sound
A. looks better
B. Sounds better
C. has a better story
D. is more original
E. is more fun
F. is more gory
G. even has better fucking acting
A. looks better
B. Sounds better
C. has a better story
D. is more original
E. is more fun
F. is more gory
G. even has better fucking acting



