So who would win in a fight, Blade or Selene?

I'd have to say Wolverine. Or maybe a Jedi. Could be Batman, though.

Could be Predator, they always show up at the end of epic battles.

I"m glad to see it did well. I could be wrong but I read somewhere when the first one came out that the plan was to do one sequels and a prequel. We have the sequel so maybe they'll actually go back and tell the story of what happening in medievil times. That would be cool. Don't know how likely this is though since they had some flashbacks in this one.

Right, but

followed by a cameo of Captain Underpants to save the day

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In regards to the scene where Marcus hides from the sun and heals, the book says, "despite the changes he had undergone of late, he was still enough of a vampire to fear the sun."

I'd give the movie 5.5 out of 10
the basic storyline vampires and werewolves is interesting but the plot is a mess like the first movie. i liked selene's guns in the first movie a lot more they were very cool. she only had them in the beginning of this film. Markus's motivation was faulty at best and does everyone have to be a hybrid. isn't it enough to be a vampire or werewolve. cool at times but a mess like the first one. I like some of it a lot but at times it's story gets in the way. i kinda liked the action in the first movie more for the most part. plus i still hate scott speedman. kate beckinsale is smokin. love her outfit and now we know what she wears underneath it.

My money's on Batman. He knows the weaknesses of every member of the Justice League (and probably the whole DC Universe) figuring out Selene's weaknesses would be no problem for him .

No the real question would be who would win in a fight between Wolverine and Michael? ;)

That makes sense given that Michael, although half Lycan, could only consume blood like a Vampire. He basically gained a Lycan's ability to walk in the sunlight but also gained a Vampire's aversion to food.

What do you mean? There were only two hybrids: Michael and Marcus. William was a Lycan. Selene was a super-vampire. And Alexander was none of the above.

I thought that this was a good-looking movie (although not as good looking as the first). The gun-play was a lot better in the first. The muscle violence was better in this one. I felt the story was kind of f---ed up though and they seemed to drop a lot of themes that they were moving towards in the first one, contracting the timeline, etc. Hope it doesn't get worse in the third.

I thought he'd bulk up more in transformation. I mean, I wanted to see a flying werewolf dammit!

I think the abilities each Hybrid gets is random at best. Also, although we didn't see a winged Marcus in the flashbacks, I'm pretty sure the wings are a product of his being the first Vampire. Probably if Len Wiseman makes a prequel (please, more Amelia :drool: ) before making Underworld 3, we'll see that Marcus had those wings from before. What I would have liked to see if Marcus getting to turn William. Then the Michael/William fight would have been a lot more interesting (Super-Vamp had a harder time against William while Michael barely broke a sweat).

I still haven't seen it. :( I promised a chick I'd wait to see it with her. I'm such a loser....

I don't know about that. Although it doesn't really make much sense, I assumed he got the wings when he was brought to life with the Werewolf blood. Since he was the first vampire, I would have thought that the vampires he originally made would have shared his traits. Since they didn't have wings, I assumed he got them when he became a hybrid - maybe the werewold blood amped up his animalistic traits.

This was one of the things that I think a better-written movie could have made clear.

if you notice, when they become hybrids, they obviously have a dominant gene which was the original host, werewolf or vampire. on that note, i think marcus might have always had wings, because he was the first TRUE vampire, like williams was the first true werewolf. but you'd think that the direct people under him would have wings as well like williams people were almost exact replicas of him.

I'm pretty sure that Marcus had wings because he became a hybrid and his vampire gene was more dominant than his newly found lycan gene. If he already had the wings, we would have seen them in use during the flashback scenes.

in the flaskback scene he didn't really need to fight for his life. i think the argument can go either way. i'm open to both sides. he's using them with ease slamming people on teh wall. i doubt that's something you can learn that quick, but who knows.

I believe the book also indicates that Marcus' wings are a new result from becoming a hybrid and having the dominant vampire gene.

Has anyone checked out the official Underworld props on Ebay?
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI...premiereprops6
These are all going for insane prices, but they are pretty cool. A few of the items already ended (Selene's Hero Costume sold for $4,300 and Michael's Key Necklace sold for $2,824).

ahhh, good call.

lol, i need those amelia pants. also, are the guns on their? i can't find them.

I think I'll bid on this item:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7584423455 :lol:

Saw it and enjoyed it. This will sound great on the HT system.

I just initiated a new fan to the UNDERWORLD Universe. :lol: This friend of mine knows I wanted to see UW:Evolution but she didn't see UW:1 because she doesn't like Action/Adventure flicks. She didn't think she'd like UW1 but she still decided to come over Friday to see my DVD just so she could be up on the “Evolution”.and she totally dug the movie.:D

I told her people seem to think UW:Evolution is even better so now she's totally excited about seeing it. :up:

A buddy and I went and saw this yesterday. We watched Underworld at the first of the week to refresh ourselves. Glad we did since I did not realize that Evolution begins right where Underworld left off.

My buddy was happy with the gore. Definitely a hard R and not the usual cheesy PG13 stuff. I felt it was much gorier than the first one which is unusual. It always seems sequels tend to get a little tamer to try to attract a larger audience.

I really enjoy the mythology they have created with these films. At times I felt like I was watching and old-fashioned monster movie but with a better storyline. There are times when there seems to be holes or problems with it but I think I will enjoy it even more once I get to watch it at home on dvd.



The effects were kick-ass for a reported $40 million budget. Much better than some of the $150 million + movies released last year (no names but you can figure it out). It was nice that CG appeared to take a back seat in many of the shots.

I look forward to the sequel. Though there were some storyline irritations, I thought it was a good movie and much better than the critics are stating. The much reported love scene was lame & unnecessary but most of the rest I would keep.

I really enjoy the mythology they have created with these films. Of course Vampires Vs. Werewolves is nothing new but it somehow seems fresh in these films. The blood memories storyline is also interesting (has that been done before?). I wish there had been more werewolves in the story but then again I have always been more of a werewolf fan.

One more thing...was anyone else disappointed in Scott Speedman's make-up? It was my one major disappoint in the first one and I guess they were married to it so it had to be used for this one. I would just think a hybrid would look much cooler than colored contacts and a larger rib-cage. Marcus' make-up was awesome and much more what I was looking for.

Saw this last night and liked it a lot. I haven't seen so many impalements in a long time.

One thing kept going through my mind, though: where the hell does this series take place?
-The first movie was urban, except for the mansion. The vampires and Lucian talked with English accents. Michael, the doctor, and the cops had American accents.
-The sequel opens with Selene and Michael on a night's journey on foot in the middle of nowhere. The TV news anchor in the tavern, as well as the cops, seemed to be speaking in an Eastern European language or Russian. The guard at the pier sounded like he was talking in French.

Didn't you know? Vampires and people in space are always British. :D

I saw UE yesterday and liked it. I've read this entire thread (I'm at work, so I'm bored), but I'm still confused.

I liked it. ***1/2 out five. I liked how they pretty much jumped right in where the last one left after a little back story to catch every up - thankfully, they didn't spend too much time doing so.

Another thing I was grateful for - the lack of a horrible modern rock soundtrack. The music was pretty good.

And Kate's belly in that one scene. :drool:

Michael and Selene's child would be "pure" because it would be born as either a vampire, werewolf, or hybrid. It would not be "pure" if it were born human and would have to be turned. Hence, Michael and Selene are not "pure" (since both were bitten) but their child would be.

you're only pure if you're bitten by a wolf or bat. william and marcus. michael isn't pure, selene isn't pure. so how could the child be pure? it'll be born a vampire/wolf/hybrid, but it won't be a pure blood because it still has human blood in it.

Again, according to the mythos of this series, purity is established by birth. Hence, Marcus and William, though the first of their kind, would not be considered pure. Neither would have Viktor. But, had Somja and Lucian's child been born, that child would have been categorized as "pure". Think of it as the Dunedain in LOTR. Aragorn to be specific. His parents were of "diluted" bloodlines but their child, being born of two parents originating of said bloodline (however diluted) produced a pure heir. That is why Aragorn was blessed with long life but his parents were not. The same goes of the vampires and werewolves of the Underworld Universe.

Anyway, thanks for clearing that up for me....although based upon RocShemp's post, it looks like the "pure" thing is something to be debated.

I don't know if UW2 has changed some of this info or if it's the same but:

The Underworld Novel clearly states that Viktor was NOT a pureborn Vampire. He was a once human who was bitten; which is kinda funny considering his obsession with keeping Vampire bloodlines pure...or at least, Lycan free. Lucian was Pure because Both of his parents were Wild Lycan who were captured by Viktor.

You see, based on the Novel, Viktor was the one who originally enslaved Lycans. They were running free in the lands and many were killing humans. Viktor realized that everytime Lycans did this it it fed the hatred and distrust humans already had for immortals. By enslaving Lycans they could cut down the attacks and keep humans off their backs.

That backs up what I was saying about Viktor not being pure and the film backs that up as well. Saldy, no mention of Lucian's heritage is made in either film. It's only insinuated in the first film when Lucian mentions that he was born in servitude. Also, another hint of his pure blood was his ability to remove the silver bullets without pulling them out and the fact that the nitrate round didn't kill him imediately.