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Giles 01-25-06 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by matrixrok9
So who would win in a fight, Blade or Selene?


Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I'd have to say Wolverine. Or maybe a Jedi. Could be Batman, though.


Originally Posted by matrixrok9
Could be Predator, they always show up at the end of epic battles.

followed by a cameo of Captain Underpants to save the day

http://a1204.g.akamai.net/7/1204/140...00/7126993.jpg

Janus3 01-25-06 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Xander
Right, but
Spoiler:

Markus had his blood too, right? And he wasn't immune to sunlight. That bugged me. Hopefully if they do another one, they will explain that.

Spoiler:

we don't know that, we just assume he is. we've never seen him in direct sunlight. he might think he is so lives in the night like a normal vampire.

fryinpan1 01-25-06 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Xander
Right, but
Spoiler:

Markus had his blood too, right? And he wasn't immune to sunlight. That bugged me. Hopefully if they do another one, they will explain that.

In regards to the scene where Marcus hides from the sun and heals, the book says, "despite the changes he had undergone of late, he was still enough of a vampire to fear the sun."

sabre 01-26-06 09:18 AM

I'd give the movie 5.5 out of 10
the basic storyline vampires and werewolves is interesting but the plot is a mess like the first movie. i liked selene's guns in the first movie a lot more they were very cool. she only had them in the beginning of this film. Markus's motivation was faulty at best and does everyone have to be a hybrid. isn't it enough to be a vampire or werewolve. cool at times but a mess like the first one. I like some of it a lot but at times it's story gets in the way. i kinda liked the action in the first movie more for the most part. plus i still hate scott speedman. kate beckinsale is smokin. love her outfit and now we know what she wears underneath it.

RocShemp 01-26-06 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I'd have to say Wolverine. Or maybe a Jedi. Could be Batman, though.

My money's on Batman. He knows the weaknesses of every member of the Justice League (and probably the whole DC Universe) figuring out Selene's weaknesses would be no problem for him
Spoiler:
(Alexander was killable, after all)
.

No the real question would be who would win in a fight between Wolverine and Michael? ;)

RocShemp 01-26-06 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by fryinpan1
In regards to the scene where Marcus hides from the sun and heals, the book says, "despite the changes he had undergone of late, he was still enough of a vampire to fear the sun."

That makes sense given that Michael, although half Lycan, could only consume blood like a Vampire. He basically gained a Lycan's ability to walk in the sunlight but also gained a Vampire's aversion to food.

RocShemp 01-26-06 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by sabre
does everyone have to be a hybrid. isn't it enough to be a vampire or werewolve.

What do you mean? There were only two hybrids: Michael and Marcus. William was a Lycan. Selene was a super-vampire. And Alexander was none of the above.

Peep 01-26-06 01:35 PM

I thought that this was a good-looking movie (although not as good looking as the first). The gun-play was a lot better in the first. The muscle violence was better in this one. I felt the story was kind of f---ed up though and they seemed to drop a lot of themes that they were moving towards in the first one, contracting the timeline, etc. Hope it doesn't get worse in the third.

devilshalo 01-26-06 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by RocShemp
That makes sense given that Michael, although half Lycan, could only consume blood like a Vampire. He basically gained a Lycan's ability to walk in the sunlight but also gained a Vampire's aversion to food.

I thought he'd bulk up more in transformation. I mean, I wanted to see a flying werewolf dammit!

RocShemp 01-26-06 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by devilshalo
I thought he'd bulk up more in transformation. I mean, I wanted to see a flying werewolf dammit!

I think the abilities each Hybrid gets is random at best. Also, although we didn't see a winged Marcus in the flashbacks, I'm pretty sure the wings are a product of his being the first Vampire. Probably if Len Wiseman makes a prequel (please, more Amelia :drool: ) before making Underworld 3, we'll see that Marcus had those wings from before. What I would have liked to see if Marcus getting to turn William. Then the Michael/William fight would have been a lot more interesting (Super-Vamp had a harder time against William while Michael barely broke a sweat).

Giantrobo 01-26-06 11:29 PM

I still haven't seen it. :( I promised a chick I'd wait to see it with her. I'm such a loser....

Peep 01-27-06 01:48 AM


Originally Posted by RocShemp
I think the abilities each Hybrid gets is random at best. Also, although we didn't see a winged Marcus in the flashbacks, I'm pretty sure the wings are a product of his being the first Vampire. Probably if Len Wiseman makes a prequel (please, more Amelia :drool: ) before making Underworld 3, we'll see that Marcus had those wings from before. What I would have liked to see if Marcus getting to turn William. Then the Michael/William fight would have been a lot more interesting (Super-Vamp had a harder time against William while Michael barely broke a sweat).

I don't know about that. Although it doesn't really make much sense, I assumed he got the wings when he was brought to life with the Werewolf blood. Since he was the first vampire, I would have thought that the vampires he originally made would have shared his traits. Since they didn't have wings, I assumed he got them when he became a hybrid - maybe the werewold blood amped up his animalistic traits.

This was one of the things that I think a better-written movie could have made clear.

Janus3 01-27-06 02:19 AM

if you notice, when they become hybrids, they obviously have a dominant gene which was the original host, werewolf or vampire. on that note, i think marcus might have always had wings, because he was the first TRUE vampire, like williams was the first true werewolf. but you'd think that the direct people under him would have wings as well like williams people were almost exact replicas of him.

fryinpan1 01-27-06 05:51 AM

I'm pretty sure that Marcus had wings because he became a hybrid and his vampire gene was more dominant than his newly found lycan gene. If he already had the wings, we would have seen them in use during the flashback scenes.

Janus3 01-27-06 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by fryinpan1
I'm pretty sure that Marcus had wings because he became a hybrid and his vampire gene was more dominant than his newly found lycan gene. If he already had the wings, we would have seen them in use during the flashback scenes.


in the flaskback scene he didn't really need to fight for his life. i think the argument can go either way. i'm open to both sides.
Spoiler:
as soon as he gets out of the tomb and kills kraven
he's using them with ease slamming people on teh wall. i doubt that's something you can learn that quick, but who knows.

fryinpan1 01-27-06 06:04 AM

I believe the book also indicates that Marcus' wings are a new result from becoming a hybrid and having the dominant vampire gene.

fryinpan1 01-27-06 06:09 AM

Has anyone checked out the official Underworld props on Ebay?
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI...premiereprops6
These are all going for insane prices, but they are pretty cool. A few of the items already ended (Selene's Hero Costume sold for $4,300 and Michael's Key Necklace sold for $2,824).

Janus3 01-27-06 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by fryinpan1
I believe the book also indicates that Marcus' wings are a new result from becoming a hybrid and having the dominant vampire gene.


ahhh, good call.

Janus3 01-27-06 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by fryinpan1
Has anyone checked out the official Underworld props on Ebay?
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI...premiereprops6
These are all going for insane prices, but they are pretty cool. A few of the items already ended (Selene's Hero Costume sold for $4,300 and Michael's Key Necklace sold for $2,824).


lol, i need those amelia pants. also, are the guns on their? i can't find them.

candyrocket786 01-27-06 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by fryinpan1
Has anyone checked out the official Underworld props on Ebay?
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI...premiereprops6
These are all going for insane prices, but they are pretty cool. A few of the items already ended (Selene's Hero Costume sold for $4,300 and Michael's Key Necklace sold for $2,824).


I think I'll bid on this item:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7584423455 :lol:

rexinnih 01-27-06 10:07 AM

Saw it and enjoyed it. This will sound great on the HT system.

Giantrobo 01-28-06 06:27 AM

I just initiated a new fan to the UNDERWORLD Universe. :lol: This friend of mine knows I wanted to see UW:Evolution but she didn't see UW:1 because she doesn't like Action/Adventure flicks. She didn't think she'd like UW1 but she still decided to come over Friday to see my DVD just so she could be up on the “Evolution”.and she totally dug the movie.:D

I told her people seem to think UW:Evolution is even better so now she's totally excited about seeing it. :up:

Spiderbite 01-28-06 10:25 AM

A buddy and I went and saw this yesterday. We watched Underworld at the first of the week to refresh ourselves. Glad we did since I did not realize that Evolution begins right where Underworld left off.

My buddy was happy with the gore. Definitely a hard R and not the usual cheesy PG13 stuff. I felt it was much gorier than the first one which is unusual. It always seems sequels tend to get a little tamer to try to attract a larger audience.

I really enjoy the mythology they have created with these films. At times I felt like I was watching and old-fashioned monster movie but with a better storyline. There are times when there seems to be holes or problems with it but I think I will enjoy it even more once I get to watch it at home on dvd.

Spoiler:
We were both happy Kraven was dispatched so quickly & both disappointed that Michael did not die (for good). It was the perfect chance to get rid of Scott Speedman but that was blown.


The effects were kick-ass for a reported $40 million budget. Much better than some of the $150 million + movies released last year (no names but you can figure it out). It was nice that CG appeared to take a back seat in many of the shots.

I look forward to the sequel. Though there were some storyline irritations, I thought it was a good movie and much better than the critics are stating. The much reported love scene was lame & unnecessary but most of the rest I would keep.

I really enjoy the mythology they have created with these films. Of course Vampires Vs. Werewolves is nothing new but it somehow seems fresh in these films. The blood memories storyline is also interesting (has that been done before?). I wish there had been more werewolves in the story but then again I have always been more of a werewolf fan.

One more thing...was anyone else disappointed in Scott Speedman's make-up? It was my one major disappoint in the first one and I guess they were married to it so it had to be used for this one. I would just think a hybrid would look much cooler than colored contacts and a larger rib-cage. Marcus' make-up was awesome and much more what I was looking for.

DJLinus 01-29-06 10:40 AM

Saw this last night and liked it a lot. I haven't seen so many impalements in a long time.

One thing kept going through my mind, though: where the hell does this series take place?
-The first movie was urban, except for the mansion. The vampires and Lucian talked with English accents. Michael, the doctor, and the cops had American accents.
-The sequel opens with Selene and Michael on a night's journey on foot in the middle of nowhere. The TV news anchor in the tavern, as well as the cops, seemed to be speaking in an Eastern European language or Russian. The guard at the pier sounded like he was talking in French.

immortal_zeus 01-29-06 07:07 PM

Didn't you know? Vampires and people in space are always British. :D


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