Underworld: Evolution (2006)
01-20-06, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
Just saw one of those free screenings of this one. It is much better than the first one, though I didn't think much of the first one initially so take that FWIW. This one does deliver in the areas where the first one didn't, particularly in the area of creature vs. creature action. The FX for the Lycans was much improved, and I am glad they didn't take the CGI approach on them for the most part. In short, this one is more of a straight out creature feature with lots of unique action where the first one was more of something that was trying to gain footing and perhaps the success to get a bigger budgeted sequel. However, I would still just rate it three stars at best, and I didn't pay to see it either.
My main gripe: Scott Speedman leaves much to be desired as an actor. He makes Paul Walker look like Paul Newman. His lines all seemed forced.
I recommend watching the first one before you see this, as it picks up immediately after its predecessor. It had been over a year since I last saw the first one, so I knew enough, but probably didn't get as much as I would have had it been fresh in my mind.
My main gripe: Scott Speedman leaves much to be desired as an actor. He makes Paul Walker look like Paul Newman. His lines all seemed forced.
I recommend watching the first one before you see this, as it picks up immediately after its predecessor. It had been over a year since I last saw the first one, so I knew enough, but probably didn't get as much as I would have had it been fresh in my mind.
I saw a free screening last night as well, and I pretty much agree with everything you said. The action/fight scenes are good, but I can't say the movie brought anything all that new to the table. It was a fairly predictable, but still enjoyable, action/horror movie.
Basically, I'm glad I didn't pay for it and I probably won't buy the DVD, but I still enjoyed it enough to say I didn't waste the 1:45 or so I spent watching it.
01-20-06, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by bralph
I saw a free screening last night as well, and I pretty much agree with everything you said. The action/fight scenes are good, but I can't say the movie brought anything all that new to the table. It was a fairly predictable, but still enjoyable, action/horror movie.
Basically, I'm glad I didn't pay for it and I probably won't buy the DVD, but I still enjoyed it enough to say I didn't waste the 1:45 or so I spent watching it.
Basically, I'm glad I didn't pay for it and I probably won't buy the DVD, but I still enjoyed it enough to say I didn't waste the 1:45 or so I spent watching it.
You're correct. The movie didn't do anything groundbreaking, that's for certain. Basically it just took the premise they had in the first one and did something with it, though it wasn't that special of a plot. Like I said, I was miffed in the first one when we were promised vamps vs. werewolves and they were blasting away at each other with guns. I knew this one would improve upon that element when the first scene
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Also, if you thought the first one borrowed heavily from Blade and The Matrix, this one continues that tradition, particularly with The Matrix element and the story of Michael.
01-20-06, 08:20 AM
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this is a movie i dont care what the critics think, they didnt like the first one and most likely wont like this one, I loved the first one and cant wait for this one 
01-20-06, 10:11 AM
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I thought the first film was *Tony the Tiger voice* Grrrrrrrrreat!
The sequel? Not so much. IMO, a poor balance between action sequences and a painfully uninteresting story.
That first close-up of a Lycan transformation was pretty cool though.
The sequel? Not so much. IMO, a poor balance between action sequences and a painfully uninteresting story.
That first close-up of a Lycan transformation was pretty cool though.
01-20-06, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by scott shelton
I thought the first film was *Tony the Tiger voice* Grrrrrrrrreat!
The sequel? Not so much. IMO, a poor balance between action sequences and a painfully uninteresting story.
That first close-up of a Lycan transformation was pretty cool though.
The sequel? Not so much. IMO, a poor balance between action sequences and a painfully uninteresting story.
That first close-up of a Lycan transformation was pretty cool though.
) with some reservations.FWIW, I was shocked that the theater I went to was more than 3/4 full on a Friday afternoon. Guess I didn't realize the fanbase this series has.
01-20-06, 07:35 PM
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saw this today, I really liked it. maybe a little more than the first one. though I felt the first one was more story and less action, this sequel as many have said is just the opposite. just a question though, and I don't think I need to use spoiler tags, because this is all covered in the first film.
How is Michael a hybrid? He is a descendant of the Corvinas clan right? Alexander had two sons, Markus and William, who I assume were both bit after they were born? I'm not sure how Michael became a hybrid, maybe someone can help me figure this out, because I must've missed it somewhere.
How is Michael a hybrid? He is a descendant of the Corvinas clan right? Alexander had two sons, Markus and William, who I assume were both bit after they were born? I'm not sure how Michael became a hybrid, maybe someone can help me figure this out, because I must've missed it somewhere.
01-20-06, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by asianxcore
saw this today, I really liked it. maybe a little more than the first one. though I felt the first one was more story and less action, this sequel as many have said is just the opposite. just a question though, and I don't think I need to use spoiler tags, because this is all covered in the first film.
How is Michael a hybrid? He is a descendant of the Corvinas clan right? Alexander had two sons, Markus and William, who I assume were both bit after they were born? I'm not sure how Michael became a hybrid, maybe someone can help me figure this out, because I must've missed it somewhere.
How is Michael a hybrid? He is a descendant of the Corvinas clan right? Alexander had two sons, Markus and William, who I assume were both bit after they were born? I'm not sure how Michael became a hybrid, maybe someone can help me figure this out, because I must've missed it somewhere.
Michael is a hybrid because he was bitten by both a Lycan and a vampire in the original underworld.
01-20-06, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
Michael is a hybrid because he was bitten by both a Lycan and a vampire in the original underworld.
01-20-06, 08:32 PM
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I just saw this one today and I loved it. Yeah, the plot wasn't all that special but it got the job done. Looking forward to see what happens in the next film.
I was disappointed that the Lycan's had a very small role, story-wise, in this one. In the first it was pretty 50-50 between the Vampires and the Lycans but this one was pretty much a vampire film with guest appearances by werewolves. Pretty odd given that it dealt, in part, with the first Lycan ever.
Also, Michael was a badass in this film but I find him more imposing when he first fought Viktor. He would constantly pop up anywhere during the opening moments of that fight. I was hoping for a repeat of that sometime during this one. I was also perplexed as to how super fast Selene was when she fought the cops. She was never so fast during the first film and she never fights as fast during any other portion of this film.
Still, those gripes aside, I look forward to adding this film to my collection when it's released on DVD.
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I was disappointed that the Lycan's had a very small role, story-wise, in this one. In the first it was pretty 50-50 between the Vampires and the Lycans but this one was pretty much a vampire film with guest appearances by werewolves. Pretty odd given that it dealt, in part, with the first Lycan ever.
Also, Michael was a badass in this film but I find him more imposing when he first fought Viktor. He would constantly pop up anywhere during the opening moments of that fight. I was hoping for a repeat of that sometime during this one. I was also perplexed as to how super fast Selene was when she fought the cops. She was never so fast during the first film and she never fights as fast during any other portion of this film.
Still, those gripes aside, I look forward to adding this film to my collection when it's released on DVD.
01-20-06, 08:37 PM
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BTW, slightly off topic, I was surprised to see the trailer to X3 during my showing. It looks good good. Since when has this trailer been out? Other than that I only recall seeing a trailer for Big Momma's House 2 and some crappy looking spoof film called Date Movie. What trailers did you guys see?
01-20-06, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
Michael is a hybrid because he was bitten by both a Lycan and a vampire in the original underworld.
01-20-06, 09:51 PM
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I never saw the first one due to a lot of bad press, but I saw it the other night and enjoyed it a hell of a lot. So I went and saw this one today, and enjoyed it immensely. My big problem is that William got so little screen-time, and he just didn't seem to do much as this huge bad-ass werewolf. The Markus/Seline fight was much better than the Michael/Viktor fight in the previous film, but the Michael/William fight in this one was total fluff.
As for trailers, I had Ultraviolet (where did you go wrong, Milla Jovovich?), When A Stranger Calls (He's calling from INSIDE the house!), and something else that was instantly forgettable.
As for trailers, I had Ultraviolet (where did you go wrong, Milla Jovovich?), When A Stranger Calls (He's calling from INSIDE the house!), and something else that was instantly forgettable.
01-20-06, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
I was also perplexed as to how super fast Selene was when she fought the cops. She was never so fast during the first film and she never fights as fast during any other portion of this film.
But wasn't she primarialy fighting other immotals in the first movie? Where the cops just humans? I don't know...just a thought. I haven't seen UW:2 yet.
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01-20-06, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
She moves really fast in the fight against William, jumping up to grab a gun from the bridge.
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01-20-06, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
But wasn't she primarialy fighting other immotals in the first movie? Where hte cops just humans? I don't know...just a thought. I haven't seen UW:2 yet.
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01-20-06, 10:57 PM
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I saw this tonight and liked it a lot. I would give it a solid three out of four stars based on one viewing. My only complaint was that the action moved a little too fast. Hopefully, we will get an extended cut on DVD. If anyone reads the books, I think they enhance the viewing experience. If this film does well and they make a third film, I am hoping for a prequel or
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01-20-06, 10:57 PM
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Saw it tonight at a sold out show... I thought the first one was all style with very little substance and while I enjoyed the first one enough, thought overall it was mediocre...which is why I'm extremely surprised that I LOVED EVERY MINUTE of UNDERWORLD: EVOLUTION. Sure, some of the plot is weak and some FX aren't that great, but it had a great mix of action, sex and creatures flying around. Wiseman also seems to have learned quite abit about pacing and framing the action so we can tell what is going on...also, add to the mix the great Derek Jacobi and I am definitely pleasantly surprised...not sure if they needed the opening sequence which is the main weak point of the film, but other than that, I had a hell of a time.
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01-20-06, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
True but even then she didn't move anywhere near as fast as she did when she fought the cops.
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Also, the spoiler point is well taken.
I sincerely hope there's an extended DVD cut that features more of Markus and Viktor in the past. Also, I truly hope the Seline/Michael sex scene is far more explicit.
I wasn't planning on buying the books, but all the praise for them in this thread made me just pick them up on amazon.
01-21-06, 12:12 AM
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Just got back from this myself and I liked it. As others have said it had more actioin and less story. I too was upset that the lycans didn't get more screen-time since it appeared non were around except for a few. I mean at the end of the first there were several around.
I had one question though?
My wife went with me and thought it was more of a porn than anything LOL I must say I didn't mind it at all
I had one question though?
| Since Marcus was the first and he's dead shouldn't it be over now. Shouldn't they both be human again or dead? |
My wife went with me and thought it was more of a porn than anything LOL I must say I didn't mind it at all
01-21-06, 12:35 AM
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Just got back from this myself and I liked it. As others have said it had more actioin and less story. I too was upset that the lycans didn't get more screen-time since it appeared non were around except for a few. I mean at the end of the first there were several around.
Originally Posted by cisman
I had one question though?
| Since Marcus was the first and he's dead shouldn't it be over now. Shouldn't they both be human again or dead? |
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Also, we all know that the third movie will feature some kind of super-duper offspring of Seline and Michael.
01-21-06, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
Also, we all know that the third movie will feature some kind of super-duper offspring of Seline and Michael.
That makes me wonder if the third one might take place many years in the future. Since both Michael and Selene are allegedly immortal, the two actors could play them without aging and they could have their son/daughter be in their teens. That way they could avoid having to explain how a vampire could give birth (almost another movie in and of itself, which I could do without!).
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01-21-06, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
The scene of the two of them sharing a moment was something that pleasantly surprised me. It's been a while since we have had an R rated movie that actually had an intense sex scene as opposed to snuggling and kissing undercovers.
That makes me wonder if the third one might take place many years in the future. Since both Michael and Selene are allegedly immortal, the two actors could play them without aging and they could have their son/daughter be in their teens. That way they could avoid having to explain how a vampire could give birth (almost another movie in and of itself, which I could do without!).
That makes me wonder if the third one might take place many years in the future. Since both Michael and Selene are allegedly immortal, the two actors could play them without aging and they could have their son/daughter be in their teens. That way they could avoid having to explain how a vampire could give birth (almost another movie in and of itself, which I could do without!).
Well, based on the books when two immortals get together the child is born a Pure Immortal. Sonia(Viktor's pure daughter, who was born of 2 Vampires) and Lucian were having a baby so that child would've been pure. Lucian's parents were both Lycan so he was pure.